Nine ball break, one in the side

[rikdee]

How is it that the one can be made directly into a side pocket? Try as I might, I cannot get the one ball on a line that gets it even close to entering the side pocket, soft break or otherwise.

_Rick

 

[seymore15074]

Break from the far side, the 1 ball will head generally toward the side. Typically, the 1 ball misses the side and comes up table. You always know where the first ball you will be shooting will be UNLESS you make the 1 ball in the side. I would try not to make it...

 

[Snapshot9]

1 ball.

Things to take note on:

1) From right side, they break with a half tip left and 3/4 tip low.
2) Hit the 1 slightly to the right of center line to it.

If 1 ball hits above side pocket, you either hit 1 ball too full, or have
too much speed, or both.

If 1 ball hits below side pocket, you didn't hit 1 ball full enough, or shot
too soft, or both.

This might help a little - Think of it like a basketball shot, distance and speed and arc (hit on the 1 ball)

Once you finally get the feel for it, you can burn it into your mind.

 

[Scott Lee]

I often wonder why people suggest hitting the break shot with english. It doesn't affect what happens with the balls. Making the one ball in the side is only a function of hitting the head ball absolutely square, with a dead center hit on the CB. The right speed will pocket the one in the side fairly consistently. I've seen many pros do it rack after rack...with a centerball hit and straight on the 1-ball. The other benefit here is the ability to squat the CB in the middle of the table after contact with the rack. That won't happen if you shoot with any kind of spin, or don't hit the 1-ball full in the face.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

 

[Buckeyejim]

One in side

I often wonder why people suggest hitting the break shot with english. It doesn't affect what happens with the balls. Making the one ball in the side is only a function of hitting the head ball absolutely square, with a dead center hit on the CB. The right speed will pocket the one in the side fairly consistently. I've seen many pros do it rack after rack...with a centerball hit and straight on the 1-ball. The other benefit here is the ability to squat the CB in the middle of the table after contact with the rack. That won't happen if you shoot with any kind of spin, or don't hit the 1-ball full in the face.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

Dead-on Scott! that's what I've been practicing- it works better than anything else I've ever tried.Very good info,pos.rep to ya

 

[cigardave]

The absolute nuts in breaking 9-ball in my experience is to

1) pocket the wing ball in the same corner pocket as the side you are breaking from (using Joe T's method of reading a 9-ball rack)... and...​

2) also pocketing the 1-ball in the opposite side pocket.
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I've done both quite often and when both happen it's perfection.

 

[juanbond]

I often wonder why people suggest hitting the break shot with english. It doesn't affect what happens with the balls.

I agree that it's pretty useless to use english on the break... But how can it be true that cueball english doesn't affect the break? It might be a small effect, but there must be an effect if we agree that some small amount of english transfers between balls. Maybe I'm just picking nits here...

 

[PoolSponge]

Contrary to popular belief in this thread english WILL effect the break as is demonstrated quite well by Joe Tucker.

Watch your break and see where the one typically hits on the side rails. If you are hitting below the side pocket use a bit of draw to pull the one higher and follow to push it lower. If there is ANYTHING you need to know about pocketing balls on the snap you MUST get Joe Tuckers Racking Secrets.

Now, the real question you need to ask yourself is why are you trying to make the one in the side? Learn to rack well and make the wing ball and control the one ball to miss the side and play position on it. This will best allow you a chance to have a shot after the break. The easiest ball in the rack to control its path and speed is the one so learn to break hard enough to get it to an area of the table you can play it from.

PM Joe for the specifics on the effects of english as he really shows his understanding in a flawless manner in his DVD's.

 

[Tiger5150]

Good info here. Always liked how Alison Fisher seemed to make the one in the side more than 50% of the time

 

[Neil]

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[Johnnyt]

The cloth and if the balls are clean or not has a lot to do with it also. Johnnyt

 

[Patrick Johnson]

I often wonder why people suggest hitting the break shot with english. It doesn't affect what happens with the balls. Making the one ball in the side is only a function of hitting the head ball absolutely square, with a dead center hit on the CB. The right speed will pocket the one in the side fairly consistently. I've seen many pros do it rack after rack...with a centerball hit and straight on the 1-ball. The other benefit here is the ability to squat the CB in the middle of the table after contact with the rack. That won't happen if you shoot with any kind of spin, or don't hit the 1-ball full in the face.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

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