Nine Ball on Break too many Times....

nineballman

nineballman

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I played this guy 6 sets the other day and he won 4 all of which went double hill. However, he made the 9 5 times on the break during those four sets. I tried to take the 9 on break away like the pros, but he wouldn't hear of it. I was racking, so what can I do? I don't want to cheat the guy, but I don't want to lose because he makes the nine about every 5 games.
Any ideas?
 
nineballman said:
I played this guy 6 sets the other day and he won 4 all of which went double hill. However, he made the 9 5 times on the break during those four sets. I tried to take the 9 on break away like the pros, but he wouldn't hear of it. I was racking, so what can I do? I don't want to cheat the guy, but I don't want to lose because he makes the nine about every 5 games.
Any ideas?
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Read Joe Tucker's book on racking? Make sure that both of the balls in back of the nine are touching it.
 
Rack Better

Sounds like he was exploiting your rack. Not to down your rack, but you need to rack better to keep him from putting in the 9.

Try watching Joe Tucker's Racking secrets, or read the book from Joe Tucker about Racking secrets.

That would be your best bet.
 
I had to say that fellas, it was just a joke. Don't be so uptight you guys need to loosen up.
 
macaframa said:
I had to say that fellas, it was just a joke. Don't be so uptight you guys need to loosen up.
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I didn't see anything wrong with it. "Learn how to rack" was sufficient.

Now, go learn how to rack. :rolleyes:
 
if the 9 was going into the bottom two corner pockets directly it was because you weren't freezing the 2 balls behind the nine. (Nice secret to look for when playing. As stated before Joe Tucker teaches you about this in his dvd's "racking secrets") If the 9 was going into any other pockets other than the bottom 2 corners, that my friend is luck. It is being deflected in and there is nothing you can do about it. Bottom line make sure you freeze the balls behind the nine. Then the 9 can't go into the bottom 2 pockets without some help.
 
Ryan A. said:
if the 9 was going into the bottom two corner pockets directly it was because you weren't freezing the 2 balls behind the nine. (Nice secret to look for when playing. As stated before Joe Tucker teaches you about this in his dvd's "racking secrets") If the 9 was going into any other pockets other than the bottom 2 corners, that my friend is luck. It is being deflected in and there is nothing you can do about it. Bottom line make sure you freeze the balls behind the nine. Then the 9 can't go into the bottom 2 pockets without some help.
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Thanks! This is much better advice than ... "learn how to rack."
 
Bob Jewett said:
Read Joe Tucker's book on racking? Make sure that both of the balls in back of the nine are touching it.
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Here is a related note from today's press release from Matchroom Sport. A "golden break" is the nine on the break.

The 2007 PartyPoker.net World Tenpin Masters got underway this afternoon
at the Hotel Zuiderduin in sunny Egmond aan Zee, as defending champion
Ralf Souquet suffered a shock exit at the hands of Spain's European
No.12 David Alcaide.

Event promoters Matchroom Sport had made the decision NOT to tap the
balls into the table, and that proved telling as there were four golden
breaks including a victorious one for Alcaide in the 14th and final
rack.

Souquet, looked the better player throughout as Alcaide struggled with
his positional play. However, the 28 year-old from Malaga stuck with it
and when Souquet missed a relatively easy 4 ball with the scores at 6-6,
the Spaniard seized the opportunity.

Alcaide made no mistakes as he ran through the remaining balls to take
the lead for the first time at 7-6.

Just when he needed it, Alcaide delivered a golden break as the 9 ball
got a fortuitous nudge from the 7 ball to help it into the corner pocket
and seal an 8-6 win.=20

After the match Alcaide explained how the golden breaks came about; "The
problem was that there was a gap between the 1 ball and the second ball
in the pack and this allows the 9 to roll towards that corner pocket.
You just play a normal hard break shot and watch it roll.

"The turning point for me was when Ralf missed the 4 ball and that gave
me a good chance to finish off the table and of course, I made the
golden break to win in the next."
 
In my humble opinion, the rules should not allow a game of pool to be won or lost on the break shot.
 
Lun@ticfringe said:
How much you want to bet?
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1 to 20 odds...I'll give you $20 everytime you make it if you give me $1 everytime you don't. We'll be it as long as you can stand at the top while I rack.
 
nineballman said:
I played this guy 6 sets the other day and he won 4 all of which went double hill. However, he made the 9 5 times on the break during those four sets. I tried to take the 9 on break away like the pros, but he wouldn't hear of it. I was racking, so what can I do? I don't want to cheat the guy, but I don't want to lose because he makes the nine about every 5 games.
Any ideas?
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i played a guy that made the nine 5 times on the break in a race to 7
 
poolplayer2093 said:
i played a guy that made the nine 5 times on the break in a race to 7
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I played a guy two races to 5 and he made it 4 times on me. I was kicking myself in the ass cause I was giving him the breaks. It was on a 7 ft. Diamond. Also we were at a tournament one time on 8 ft. tables and my friend was down 3-0 in a race to 5. He won a game and proceeded to make the 9 on the snap 3 times in a row. He lost the next game which made it hill-hill and then the guy snapped it in on the break on him. How sick is that?
 
iasaxman said:
1 to 20 odds...I'll give you $20 everytime you make it if you give me $1 everytime you don't. We'll be it as long as you can stand at the top while I rack.
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I'll take 3 to 1 on every break....and I rack my own :D :D

Southpaw
 
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