I liked the proposed rule changes, but they should have been announced last year for THIS year's tournament. So announce them this year, implement them next year.
Yes, J.D. Dolan. Exactly.
kollegedave
I liked the proposed rule changes, but they should have been announced last year for THIS year's tournament. So announce them this year, implement them next year.
Yeah, that's kind of a head scratcher.
All over the tournament rooms there's usually guys spreading a little baby powder on a side table or ledge somewhere near the table they're playing on. Are you supposed to call a baby powder foul on the guy?
Lou Figueroa
Posted on Facebook a hour ago, this time minus the 4 ball idea....
"2019 Derby City Classic Rule Changes (Revised)
One-Pocket:
If a ball is made on the break, re-rack.
9-Ball:
The Outsville template will be used in place of the traditional triangle.
The 9-Ball is to be positioned on the spot when racking.
Once balls are placed inside the template, do not touch them.
If the template is not perfectly straight, call for a re-rack.
A minimum of 3 balls must cross the head-string, less pocketed balls.
There will be an 18” break-box.
Baby Powder is prohibited during all events at The Derby City Classic."
Haven't gone through the whole thread yet but wanted to inquire about the baby powder ban. Is this a way of steering everyone into wearing a glove? I understand some players make an entire mess of the table. Johnny archer used to respectfully put a dab of powder on his bridge hand which I never saw a problem with. Does that mean Johnny Archer and others who still don't wear a glove will have to conform?
Are they really going to tell Efren or Bustamante to put the powder away?
It has become fairly standard.Why is a ball on the break a re rack? Are other 1p tournaments using this rule? Break and run in 1p is fun to watch. The opponent needs to be responsible for a good rack.
No.
It has nothing to do with gloves and everything to do with a few players using so much powder the table looks like it's positioned in a French bakery and starts contributing to skids. Talking to Greg today -- if you are judicious in your use of powder you should be fine. If you use it to excess that may be another story.
Lou Figueroa
Clocks, smocks! You guys are so funny with all the different ways to use shot clocks and how to decide when to use them. The four ball rule is very simple to implement and it will SOLVE the problem of excessively long matches. And you don't need to buy any clocks and teach players how to use them. It may take one game for a player to get used to spotting a ball when necessary.
There have been rule changes ever since I came into this game and they are usually done when necessary to either speed up play or take care of a problem with the existing rules. This is exactly what needs to be done as expediently as possible with the One Pocket division at DCC, and the four ball rule addresses that very well.
I love the game of One Pocket and have played many games with this rule in place, and I still love the game of One Pocket! It presents one more piece of strategy to an already very strategic game. If anything, it gives even more advantage to the better player.
One more time just to make my point clear. With this rule in place, there will be no more overly long matches that delay further rounds of play. And guess what, the better players will continue to win! :thumbup2:
One style of play at one pocket is when one or both of the players start sending all the balls to the kitchen as a defensive move and the game has many innings in which no one shoots towards his pocket. That can lead to racks that take over an hour which screws up the progress of the tournament. To prevent that, the rule says:I admittedly know very little about 1 pocket other than the fact that I am terrible at it. Curious to know what the 4 ball rule is?
Thanks
Why is a ball on the break a re rack? Are other 1p tournaments using this rule? Break and run in 1p is fun to watch and execute. The opponent needs to be responsible for a good rack.
I admittedly know very little about 1 pocket other than the fact that I am terrible at it. Curious to know what the 4 ball rule is?
Thanks
The “pinch and squeeze” is a core component of 1pocket.
If you don’t care for it... there’s always 9ball for you, lol.
Lou Figueroa
Lou, this is fine for money games. I will agree with you there. But not for a tournament that is being played on a schedule with a limited time frame for each match/round of play. In this case, the four ball rule is a Godsend.
Does he have a way to do that this year that's going to be better than before? I'm thinking of Appleton's seven-hour one pocket match.In the last few days I've talked to Greg several times about this and basically what it comes down to is that he likes the traditional 1pocket rules.
As he sees it, the problem lies -- with a tournament of 400 entries -- with fewer than a dozen matches. He see's no need to change the fundamental nature of 1pocket and is just looking to fix a few matches, among hundreds of them -- in one tournament.
Lou Figueroa
Does he have a way to do that this year that's going to be better than before? I'm thinking of Appleton's seven-hour one pocket match.
In the last few days I've talked to Greg several times about this and basically what it comes down to is that he likes the traditional 1pocket rules.
As he sees it, the problem lies -- with a tournament of 400 entries -- with fewer than a dozen matches. He see's no need to change the fundamental nature of 1pocket and is just looking to fix a few matches, among hundreds of them -- in one tournament.
Lou Figueroa