NYC Amsterdam Report / thks SJM (long)

raemondo

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I just returned from Spring Break in NY, where I spent most of my Mar 17-18 weekend at Amsterdam Billiards club.

The place is absolutely stunning --- I have been to many different pool halls in many different countries, and I must say that this just takes the cake. Decor was classy, tables rolled TRUE to the "T", music was just right, space was generous, the bar and RnR area was very inviting, and most all, there were serious pool players galore. I especially like the 2 cordoned-off tables in the front that allow you to express exhibitionist tendencies. If I end up working in NY, this will be THE place for me to shoot pool. What was most interesting about the place was the friendly atmosphere and the culture of the pool players. I'm used to playing in Chicago where pool must be played with some kind of wager, and where sometimes the pool crowds seem like sharks after your money. Maybe I'm exaggerating, but I just somehow feel more at home where I know I can make the likes of Steve Lipsky play his best game yet play only for pride.

Sunday had to be one of the highlights of my trip as I spent the afternoon gettting my @$$ handed to me in 9-ball racks by our venerable SJM. SJM plays easily in the A+ stratosphere and he really incited me to play my best every game. We also had dinner together with my girlfriend, hung out some, and then settled back in at Amsterdam to enjoy a "Korea vs. USA" exhibition match.

Tony Robles, Jennifer Baretta and Caroline Pao represented the USA while Charlie Williams (?!), Bo Rum Cha (Korea #3) and Yu Ram Cha (Korea #1) represented Korea. The exhibition began with Singles matches --- Jen vs. YRC (Jen won), Caroline vs. BRC (BRC won) and Charlie vs. Tony (Charlie won). They then did a scotch doubles with Charlie & YRC vs. Tony & Jen where USA won. I know they did a tie-breaker triple scotch doubles match that involved all 6 players but by then, SJM, my girlfriend and I were just too exhausted after spending nearly 12 hours in Amsterdam so we decided to hit the road.

For anyone who hasn't watched Yu Ram Cha in action, don't let the small-framed, pretty young 19 year old fool you...the girl has an amazing stoke, a monster break and a dead accurate eye. I know we haven't heard much of her on the international scene, but I can guarantee we will very soon! She seemed as if she was going to steamroll Jen in the singles match but I guess it was the nerves, inexperience, and perhaps the long drive from VF to NYC that caused her to start making mistake after mistake, eventually allowing the cool-headed Jen to lock it down 7-4. I think Jen has really improved since the last time I saw her on TV, which had to be in 2004 or so....her stroke is much smoother and she is really running the racks well. Most importantly, Jen is a rock-solid, steady and tenacious player who capitalizes on her every turn at the table.

SJM, thanks for the great time, the wonderful hospitality, and for introducing everyone to me. Remember the next time you visit chicago, food, pool and drinks are on me ;)
 
Thanks for letting us know about the Korea vs US. I had posted a thread about it asking if anyone had seen it but it didn't get any replies. Anyway, glad you had a good time and SJM playing at an A+ level in my opinion is an understatement! :)
 
raemondo said:
I just returned from Spring Break in NY, where I spent most of my Mar 17-18 weekend at Amsterdam Billiards club.

Ray,
Sounds like a great weekend of pool, thanks for the report (though we are all depressed now that WE couldn't go along:( :( :( ).
 
Ahhhhhhh so that's where Jennifer Baretta was. She called in sick for a trick shot ex. she was booked for over here:rolleyes:
 
Any pics?












Of your girlfriend I mean!@#:p

Just kidding with you. I felt the same way when I visited Commet Billiards in North New Jersey. I said to myself as I walked in "Now this is what a pool hall is supposed to look like."

I will say you have me interested in visiting Amsterdam Billiards.
 
Ray:

Did you play any 14.1 in the straight pool mecca of America??

Watch any???

Details s'il vous plait.
 
dmgwalsh said:
Ray:

Did you play any 14.1 in the straight pool mecca of America??

DMG,
An EXCELLENT question. While sjm is definitely an expert on the defensive aspects of 9-ball; any AZB'er who visits him without a bit of straight pool jousting is REALLY missing out on an opportunity to observe the old-school game close-up and in person. Some of the most entertaining (okay....I admit it, they were educational as well) 14.1 games I have played were with sjm.

So Raemondo, what's the scoop? Tell us you played some straights.
 
Gregg said:
Any pics?












Of your girlfriend I mean!@#:p

Just kidding with you. I felt the same way when I visited Commet Billiards in North New Jersey. I said to myself as I walked in "Now this is what a pool hall is supposed to look like."

I will say you have me interested in visiting Amsterdam Billiards.

Comet is STILL what a pool room should look like. Sooo much space. the only thing its missing is probably a bar and some good food. Castle got some good food.
 
That reminds me, what is Amsterdam serving now in the way of food? I hope not those tired sandwiches they use to have?
 
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I don't really need a caption, do I?
 
I like Comet too.... I do wish they had a bar, or at least a bar next door to hang afterwards.
 
Gregg said:
Any pics?












Of your girlfriend I mean!@#:p

Just kidding with you. I felt the same way when I visited Commet Billiards in North New Jersey. I said to myself as I walked in "Now this is what a pool hall is supposed to look like."

I will say you have me interested in visiting Amsterdam Billiards.


Hey Gregg,

Sorry but nope I didn't take any pix of the place or of us...although I think my gf might have some pix of Yu Ram Cha...I will ask her and find out.

In fact, that picture you pulled from the Fuentes blog, I think I actually saw that girl working at ABC one night.

Since you live in NJ, you HAVE TO visit ABC whenever you hit the big apple....it's in East Village on 11th street between 2nd and 3rd avenue I believe? I think there's a subway on 14th street. The area is the NYU area so there is a ton else to do after you are done shooting, and food in the vicinity is just great. Well, food in NYC in general, is just awesome!
 
cuechick said:
That reminds me, what is Amsterdam serving now in the way of food? I hope not those tired sandwiches they use to have?


Amsterdam is serving sandwiches with chips and salsa....I had the chicken and to be honest, I'd rather have lunch before I hit the pool hall...there are plenty of eateries nearby, and the Amsterdam sandwiches are very cold....well, you get the idea.
 
dmgwalsh said:
Ray:

Did you play any 14.1 in the straight pool mecca of America??

Watch any???

Details s'il vous plait.


Williebetmore said:
DMG,
An EXCELLENT question. While sjm is definitely an expert on the defensive aspects of 9-ball; any AZB'er who visits him without a bit of straight pool jousting is REALLY missing out on an opportunity to observe the old-school game close-up and in person. Some of the most entertaining (okay....I admit it, they were educational as well) 14.1 games I have played were with sjm.

So Raemondo, what's the scoop? Tell us you played some straights.



Don and Dennis,

Sorry to disappoint, but considering that I knew I only had 4 hours to play with SJM and that he runs 50s and 60s for breakfast, I DIDN'T HAVE THE BALLS to play with him any straight. That, and the sandwich they were serving me wasn't all that great for me to nibble on for half an hour. I decided that 9-ball would give me more of a chance, and we'd also be able to get more races in. SJM did say though, that 14.1 was his favorite with 9-ball coming a close second. I will however play him some straight next time, but as of now, my straight pool game is still pretty much a joke.

Yes, I did watch a few straight pool matches as I was flitting from table to table --- all I saw being played by the serious players was straight and 9-ball. When I was playing SJM, Steve Lipsky and Jonathan Smith were matching up on the other table playing straight pool.

(Dennis ---> your request is with Lavin at Red Shoes. Enjoy!)
 
raemondo said:
Amsterdam is serving sandwiches with chips and salsa....I had the chicken and to be honest, I'd rather have lunch before I hit the pool hall...there are plenty of eateries nearby, and the Amsterdam sandwiches are very cold....well, you get the idea.

Yeah, that was what I meant by "same tired" I thought Corner had a full kitchen I guess they just do not want to deal with food service..
 
raemondo said:
Don and Dennis,

(Dennis ---> your request is with Lavin at Red Shoes. Enjoy!)

Ray: Thanks. Did you play any at RS? Talk with you later. Got a few more matches from 2006 14.1 I'll send your way. Eddy agrees that TE was the most impressive.
 
All your kind words are appreciated, Raemondo, and I had a great time spending the day with you and your lovely girlfriend. Your game improved greatly since our last meeting, which was nice to see. Keep up the good work! Amsterdam Billiards is every bit as excellent as you suggest, and I hope others who post here make sure to include a trip there if they are ever in the NYC area. Also, you left out that you got to hang out a little with the newest kid in town, the three month old Max Barretta.

To other posters, Raemondo is one of many that has PMed to notify me well in advance of their upcoming trip to NYC to ask for a game of pool. I hope others will feel free to do the same.
 
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