NYC Dude
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My 02 cents for what it's worth...I remember that Loree Jon and Robin quit about the same time, but they both appeared from time to time, while dropping down the rankings. This was long before the IPT, as SJM confirmed.
Someone told me this, so it's hearsay, but at the time, I was told that Allison had an APA commitment that coincided with the IPT event, so she bowed out, regretfully.
At the same time I was applying for my husband to the IPT (and he blesses me every day now for that
), they asked me to apply since the WPBA was not releasing their players to play.
At the KOH while I was standing in line with Monica Webb, I asked her how she and the other WPBA'ers were finally allowed to join the IPT, and she stated that they were in meetings as we spoke, working it out.
So, I guess both of you are right on certain points, IMHO.
Someone told me this, so it's hearsay, but at the time, I was told that Allison had an APA commitment that coincided with the IPT event, so she bowed out, regretfully.
At the same time I was applying for my husband to the IPT (and he blesses me every day now for that
), they asked me to apply since the WPBA was not releasing their players to play.At the KOH while I was standing in line with Monica Webb, I asked her how she and the other WPBA'ers were finally allowed to join the IPT, and she stated that they were in meetings as we spoke, working it out.
So, I guess both of you are right on certain points, IMHO.
rackmsuckr...<<Someone told me this, so it's hearsay, but at the time, I was told that Allison had an APA commitment that coincided with the IPT event, so she bowed out, regretfully.>>
Not a chance. TRUST me on this...but logically, what APA commitment or what TEN such commitments would take precedence over the amount of money paid to the LOSER...in a two person match??
Plus since Allision is of course, one of the most famous spokespersons for the APA, why...logically speaking...would they have done anything to prevent her from playing??
Just didn't happen...but as you say...you heard that from someone and were not stating it as fact.
Regards,
Jim
Not a chance. TRUST me on this...but logically, what APA commitment or what TEN such commitments would take precedence over the amount of money paid to the LOSER...in a two person match??
Plus since Allision is of course, one of the most famous spokespersons for the APA, why...logically speaking...would they have done anything to prevent her from playing??
Just didn't happen...but as you say...you heard that from someone and were not stating it as fact.
Regards,
Jim
NYC cue dude
Banned
very interesting linda,
So you had a direct conversation with a wpba player, monica webb, talking about the wpba not allowing the women to play on the ipt tour.
Let me get this straight, did she confirm to you that at one point, early in the process, the wpba was "not releasing" (ie, not allowing, PROHIBITING), the women to participate on the ipt tour?
Did she not say that therewere meetings ongoing, about the possbilities that they could participate?
Just to get the timeline correct, did she not state this after the llj match with sigel, AND after the ipt's initial application process had started?
This story COMPLETELY confirms what i had stated to av84fun, that he so visciously and adamatly disagreed with.
It appears that the wpba was not allowing it's players (not just stalling with no decision), infact, taking a proactive step in an effort to PREVENT the ladies from participating.
I knew this to be fact.
av84fun, because he was not provided written proof, declares in the absence of that proof, his story to be true.
I'll give an analogy.
if i say the sky is blue, if av84fun doesnt go outside, i've provided no proof, and i am wrong according to him.
In fact, this corraborates my story that i was actually involved in helping a wpba player to get on the tour, after being told no by the wpba. I also have first hand knowledge that the wpba was threatened with lawsuits over this.
Someone said that allison was busy negotiating cloth, table ,and playing conditions and the opportunity passed her by.
If so, why did she have no problem accepting a spot on the tour, relatively soon thereafter, if she was so opposed to the playing conditions? and in the process, giving up the guaranteed payout in the first ipt event.
I declare myself the winner in the dispute with av84fun. Anyone care to acknowledge this at this juncture?
I make a public plea to the powers that be, that as PUNISHMENT for causing such trouble on this forum, and being wrong, that av84fun be given a lifetime ban from this community.
thanks in advance for your cooperation.
sincerely,
rg
How about it mods
So you had a direct conversation with a wpba player, monica webb, talking about the wpba not allowing the women to play on the ipt tour.
Let me get this straight, did she confirm to you that at one point, early in the process, the wpba was "not releasing" (ie, not allowing, PROHIBITING), the women to participate on the ipt tour?
Did she not say that therewere meetings ongoing, about the possbilities that they could participate?
Just to get the timeline correct, did she not state this after the llj match with sigel, AND after the ipt's initial application process had started?
This story COMPLETELY confirms what i had stated to av84fun, that he so visciously and adamatly disagreed with.
It appears that the wpba was not allowing it's players (not just stalling with no decision), infact, taking a proactive step in an effort to PREVENT the ladies from participating.
I knew this to be fact.
av84fun, because he was not provided written proof, declares in the absence of that proof, his story to be true.
I'll give an analogy.
if i say the sky is blue, if av84fun doesnt go outside, i've provided no proof, and i am wrong according to him.
In fact, this corraborates my story that i was actually involved in helping a wpba player to get on the tour, after being told no by the wpba. I also have first hand knowledge that the wpba was threatened with lawsuits over this.
Someone said that allison was busy negotiating cloth, table ,and playing conditions and the opportunity passed her by.
If so, why did she have no problem accepting a spot on the tour, relatively soon thereafter, if she was so opposed to the playing conditions? and in the process, giving up the guaranteed payout in the first ipt event.
I declare myself the winner in the dispute with av84fun. Anyone care to acknowledge this at this juncture?
I make a public plea to the powers that be, that as PUNISHMENT for causing such trouble on this forum, and being wrong, that av84fun be given a lifetime ban from this community.
thanks in advance for your cooperation.
sincerely,
rg
How about it mods
NYC Dude...<<This story COMPLETELY confirms what i had stated to av84fun, that he so visciously and adamatly disagreed with.>>
1. as the RECORD shows...you posted the most "vicious" remarks...which, due to Mr. Wilson's loud and clear warnings, I will not repeat here but just let us say that your hands are REALLY dirty on that particular point so I am surprised you went there.
2. You asked Linda...<<So you had a direct conversation with a wpba player, monica webb, talking about the wpba not allowing the women to play on the ipt tour.>>
If you will re-read linda's post more carefully, she referred to a conflict with the APA...not the WPBA...(of course I am assuming that you were referring to linda's post above because that is the impression you create)...and I honestly don't know...is Monica...for whom I have great respect...an officer or board member of the WPBA?? If not, then whatever she might have said would be the HEARSAY that you have frequently berated me for using. That's a foul...I get ball-in-hand. (-:
Linda's comment was...
<<Someone told me this, so it's hearsay, but at the time, I was told that Allison had an APA commitment that coincided with the IPT event, so she bowed out, regretfully.>>
First, I know for a FACT...that AF didn't "bow out"....FAR from it. Don't ask me how I KNOW that because I won't tell you. And besides...you don't KNOW what was in her mind and for sake of argument, let's suppose that I don't either...so AT WORST...this portion of the debate is a draw.
In addition, with respect to the reasons for LJJ taking the match, you stated POINT BLANK in other threads that she QUIT the WPBA tour so as to be able to accept the MS match. You can't deny that because it is a matter of record which I have directly quoted you on before and will not trouble myself or any reader by doing so again.
But as Linda point out...CONFIRMING sjm's post...not that any confirmation of his statements are necessary...LJJ did no such thing.
Linda's comment was...
<<<<My 02 cents for what it's worth...I remember that Loree Jon and Robin quit about the same time, but they both appeared from time to time, while dropping down the rankings. This was long before the IPT, as SJM confirmed.>>
So Linda's comments DIRECTLY CONTRADICT YOURS...PERIOD.
<<Let me get this straight, did she confirm to you that at one point, early in the process, the wpba was "not releasing" (ie, not allowing, PROHIBITING), the women to participate on the ipt tour?
Did she not say that therewere meetings ongoing, about the possbilities that they could participate?>>
RANDY!!!!!! You just contradicted yourself!!! Take a breath....RELAX!! You just suggested that the WPBA had acted AFFIRMATIVELY to PROHIBIT AF's participation and then asked if it wasn't true that there were "MEETINGS ONGOING about the possibilities that they COULD COMPETE>> (emphasis added.)
In FACT, your second supposition is CORRECT which makes your first supposition INCORRECT! Surely you must see that. You must know what being "beaten on the board" means in a poker game. Well...that is exactly what just happened to you Randy.
<<if i say the sky is blue, if av84fun doesnt go outside, i've provided no proof, and i am wrong according to him.>>
No sir...the sky is either blue or not blue REGARDLESS of whether I go outside! And with all due respect, I don't know of any world-wide governing body that has appointed you the final judge an jury about anything...let alone the color of the sky. LOL!
<<I declare myself the winner in the dispute with av84fun. Anyone care to acknowledge this at this juncture?>>
So...sir...what you have done is...to use your analogy method of describing things...what you have done is to start a war...lose it...delcare victory...and go home!!
I will leave it to others to pass judgment on the merits and maturity of your request for a "vote"...but I, for one...would not ask anyone to "get in the middle" of this flap. I prefer to fight my own battles...of course, in a figurative and not physical sense....no belligerence intended.
Regards,
Jim
1. as the RECORD shows...you posted the most "vicious" remarks...which, due to Mr. Wilson's loud and clear warnings, I will not repeat here but just let us say that your hands are REALLY dirty on that particular point so I am surprised you went there.
2. You asked Linda...<<So you had a direct conversation with a wpba player, monica webb, talking about the wpba not allowing the women to play on the ipt tour.>>
If you will re-read linda's post more carefully, she referred to a conflict with the APA...not the WPBA...(of course I am assuming that you were referring to linda's post above because that is the impression you create)...and I honestly don't know...is Monica...for whom I have great respect...an officer or board member of the WPBA?? If not, then whatever she might have said would be the HEARSAY that you have frequently berated me for using. That's a foul...I get ball-in-hand. (-:
Linda's comment was...
<<Someone told me this, so it's hearsay, but at the time, I was told that Allison had an APA commitment that coincided with the IPT event, so she bowed out, regretfully.>>
First, I know for a FACT...that AF didn't "bow out"....FAR from it. Don't ask me how I KNOW that because I won't tell you. And besides...you don't KNOW what was in her mind and for sake of argument, let's suppose that I don't either...so AT WORST...this portion of the debate is a draw.
In addition, with respect to the reasons for LJJ taking the match, you stated POINT BLANK in other threads that she QUIT the WPBA tour so as to be able to accept the MS match. You can't deny that because it is a matter of record which I have directly quoted you on before and will not trouble myself or any reader by doing so again.
But as Linda point out...CONFIRMING sjm's post...not that any confirmation of his statements are necessary...LJJ did no such thing.
Linda's comment was...
<<<<My 02 cents for what it's worth...I remember that Loree Jon and Robin quit about the same time, but they both appeared from time to time, while dropping down the rankings. This was long before the IPT, as SJM confirmed.>>
So Linda's comments DIRECTLY CONTRADICT YOURS...PERIOD.
<<Let me get this straight, did she confirm to you that at one point, early in the process, the wpba was "not releasing" (ie, not allowing, PROHIBITING), the women to participate on the ipt tour?
Did she not say that therewere meetings ongoing, about the possbilities that they could participate?>>
RANDY!!!!!! You just contradicted yourself!!! Take a breath....RELAX!! You just suggested that the WPBA had acted AFFIRMATIVELY to PROHIBIT AF's participation and then asked if it wasn't true that there were "MEETINGS ONGOING about the possibilities that they COULD COMPETE>> (emphasis added.)
In FACT, your second supposition is CORRECT which makes your first supposition INCORRECT! Surely you must see that. You must know what being "beaten on the board" means in a poker game. Well...that is exactly what just happened to you Randy.
<<if i say the sky is blue, if av84fun doesnt go outside, i've provided no proof, and i am wrong according to him.>>
No sir...the sky is either blue or not blue REGARDLESS of whether I go outside! And with all due respect, I don't know of any world-wide governing body that has appointed you the final judge an jury about anything...let alone the color of the sky. LOL!
<<I declare myself the winner in the dispute with av84fun. Anyone care to acknowledge this at this juncture?>>
So...sir...what you have done is...to use your analogy method of describing things...what you have done is to start a war...lose it...delcare victory...and go home!!
I will leave it to others to pass judgment on the merits and maturity of your request for a "vote"...but I, for one...would not ask anyone to "get in the middle" of this flap. I prefer to fight my own battles...of course, in a figurative and not physical sense....no belligerence intended.
Regards,
Jim
NYC cue dude said:
Randy, you are always a winner in my book!
NYC cue dude
Banned
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NYC Dude...<<no,in this case it is not heresay, it is called corroberation.>>
THANKS..honestly...THANKS for the best laugh I've had in a while. When I post something I heard from a third party it is HEARSAY...when you do the same thing...it is corroboration. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
<<in other words, it was wpba policy at the start of the orlando event that wpba players were prohibited. this means that during alsions invitation, it too was also in place.>>
Nope...Just didn't happen that way. My HEARSAY is JUST as good as yours and given my source...it is 100 TIMES better than yours! (-:
<<No av84fun, i think you should reread the post, linda is relaying two differnt points. the ipt asked linda to apply to the tour because the wpba, at the time WAS NOT ALLOWING IT'S PLAYES TO PARTICIPATE IN THE IPT. CASE CLOSED>>
Randy...it's late. You are LOSING it. The comments you attribute to Linda's post DON'T EXIST!!! Here it is AGAIN...Where do the letters "WPBA" exist in her post??????????????
<<Someone told me this, so it's hearsay, but at the time, I was told that Allison had an APA commitment that coincided with the IPT event, so she bowed out, regretfully.>>
Now, quoting YOU again...
<<the heresay is in regards to hearing allsion bowed out because of an apa commitment. i dispute that characterization of events.>>
So you RELY on some portion of her post and dispute the characterization of the other part. Fine Randy...whatever...ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!
I wrote..
<<So Linda's comments DIRECTLY CONTRADICT YOURS...PERIOD.>>
You wrote...
<<no it doesnt>>
But yes it does...and I am tempted to say Nah, Nah, Na Nah, Nah...but I won't becuase it is to much like the "HA HA HA" you previously posted. But I WILL say LOL because you are REALLY giving me some good laughs. Again...THANKS! (-:
<<again av84fun, you have lousy reading comprhension.>>
Well, I don't see the letters..."WPBA" in a post whereing they don't exist...so now we'll have to debate the relative problems associated with reading comprehension and eye sight I suppose. (-:
<<the meetings took place months after allsion was denied,>>
Nope...didn't happen that way. The discussions...or possibly better put the LACK of discussions were CONCURRENT with the AF/MS negotiations....PERIOD...and you have NO WAY to prove otherwise...so look...why don't we just agree to disagree absent ANY PROOF possessed by either of us...at least none that I will EVER be willing to share.
OK???????????? Why don't we just have a duel...promise to miss each other and go home unscathed and with our honor as MOST duels were fought back in the day. OK????????? I am NOT contesting your honesty or intenrity. Good men and true can have differing views without insulting each other or impugning their integrity. OK?????????
<<my rallying support statment is basically revealing the overwhelming negative sentiment that has been passed along to the moderators about YOU these past few days by some very concerned forum memebers.>>
Oh really? My e-mail and in box tell a VERY different story Randy and it is a REALLY cheap shot to suggest otherwise. If the moderators wish to ban me they certainly can...which would disappoint me rather a lot actually...because, ironically, you and I are both on the same side with respect to our concern and best wishes for the PLAYERS...and I have tried to contribute my rather extensive...but admittedly IMPERFECT experiences...IN GOOD FAITH.
But unlike you, I have not spoken with true disdain about the FANS of this sport and therefore the VAST majority of the posters here and I just wonder how those people feel about you telling them you don't "have much in common" with them and no time to mess around this forum anymore...which of course, you chose to reverse yourself on.
But hey...majority doesn't rule this forum...the Moderators do and I will just have to live with any decisions they might come to.
Regards,
Jim
THANKS..honestly...THANKS for the best laugh I've had in a while. When I post something I heard from a third party it is HEARSAY...when you do the same thing...it is corroboration. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
<<in other words, it was wpba policy at the start of the orlando event that wpba players were prohibited. this means that during alsions invitation, it too was also in place.>>
Nope...Just didn't happen that way. My HEARSAY is JUST as good as yours and given my source...it is 100 TIMES better than yours! (-:
<<No av84fun, i think you should reread the post, linda is relaying two differnt points. the ipt asked linda to apply to the tour because the wpba, at the time WAS NOT ALLOWING IT'S PLAYES TO PARTICIPATE IN THE IPT. CASE CLOSED>>
Randy...it's late. You are LOSING it. The comments you attribute to Linda's post DON'T EXIST!!! Here it is AGAIN...Where do the letters "WPBA" exist in her post??????????????
<<Someone told me this, so it's hearsay, but at the time, I was told that Allison had an APA commitment that coincided with the IPT event, so she bowed out, regretfully.>>
Now, quoting YOU again...
<<the heresay is in regards to hearing allsion bowed out because of an apa commitment. i dispute that characterization of events.>>
So you RELY on some portion of her post and dispute the characterization of the other part. Fine Randy...whatever...ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!
I wrote..
<<So Linda's comments DIRECTLY CONTRADICT YOURS...PERIOD.>>
You wrote...
<<no it doesnt>>
But yes it does...and I am tempted to say Nah, Nah, Na Nah, Nah...but I won't becuase it is to much like the "HA HA HA" you previously posted. But I WILL say LOL because you are REALLY giving me some good laughs. Again...THANKS! (-:
<<again av84fun, you have lousy reading comprhension.>>
Well, I don't see the letters..."WPBA" in a post whereing they don't exist...so now we'll have to debate the relative problems associated with reading comprehension and eye sight I suppose. (-:
<<the meetings took place months after allsion was denied,>>
Nope...didn't happen that way. The discussions...or possibly better put the LACK of discussions were CONCURRENT with the AF/MS negotiations....PERIOD...and you have NO WAY to prove otherwise...so look...why don't we just agree to disagree absent ANY PROOF possessed by either of us...at least none that I will EVER be willing to share.
OK???????????? Why don't we just have a duel...promise to miss each other and go home unscathed and with our honor as MOST duels were fought back in the day. OK????????? I am NOT contesting your honesty or intenrity. Good men and true can have differing views without insulting each other or impugning their integrity. OK?????????
<<my rallying support statment is basically revealing the overwhelming negative sentiment that has been passed along to the moderators about YOU these past few days by some very concerned forum memebers.>>
Oh really? My e-mail and in box tell a VERY different story Randy and it is a REALLY cheap shot to suggest otherwise. If the moderators wish to ban me they certainly can...which would disappoint me rather a lot actually...because, ironically, you and I are both on the same side with respect to our concern and best wishes for the PLAYERS...and I have tried to contribute my rather extensive...but admittedly IMPERFECT experiences...IN GOOD FAITH.
But unlike you, I have not spoken with true disdain about the FANS of this sport and therefore the VAST majority of the posters here and I just wonder how those people feel about you telling them you don't "have much in common" with them and no time to mess around this forum anymore...which of course, you chose to reverse yourself on.
But hey...majority doesn't rule this forum...the Moderators do and I will just have to live with any decisions they might come to.
Regards,
Jim
NYC cue dude
Banned
i refer you back to the third paragraph, midaway through, where linda specifically refers to the WPBA not allowing it's players to particiapte in the ipt, which is why linda was asked by the ipt to submit her own application.
It is all clear to me know. I have been arguing with an incompetent person. I can see how you would feel right, thinking her story was about the apa, but you apparently can't read. Only the first 2 sentences were about the apa!!!!! Changes the whole context now, doesn't it?
You know av84fun, I have met many people in my life. All sorts of people. But i fear that your kind is the worst. Johnny come lately, mr know it all, and when all else fails, in your face confrontationalist.
In another thread you ask eydie to pm you information about the attorneys, and cite the case info. Who are you that she should even respond to that? I have my suspicions about you, and without knowing your true identity, why would she share anything with you? You just a spectator here, doing nothing more than causing wheel barrows full of controversy. Is that your paln all along.
And i'll beat you to it, don't make any accusations about the attorney's, if they exist, or their credentials. All the right people know what's going on. That means you don't. Heck, even the az administrator has personally spoken to the attorney,(the one who has a past victory over kt)
So for the last time, for the sake of the players and fellow az community memebers, please resume what you were doing on or before spetember 20th, which was specifically, not posting here.
We all thank you and respect you in advance for deciciding to impose a voluntary lifetime ban on yourself.
sincerely,
rg
It is all clear to me know. I have been arguing with an incompetent person. I can see how you would feel right, thinking her story was about the apa, but you apparently can't read. Only the first 2 sentences were about the apa!!!!! Changes the whole context now, doesn't it?
You know av84fun, I have met many people in my life. All sorts of people. But i fear that your kind is the worst. Johnny come lately, mr know it all, and when all else fails, in your face confrontationalist.
In another thread you ask eydie to pm you information about the attorneys, and cite the case info. Who are you that she should even respond to that? I have my suspicions about you, and without knowing your true identity, why would she share anything with you? You just a spectator here, doing nothing more than causing wheel barrows full of controversy. Is that your paln all along.
And i'll beat you to it, don't make any accusations about the attorney's, if they exist, or their credentials. All the right people know what's going on. That means you don't. Heck, even the az administrator has personally spoken to the attorney,(the one who has a past victory over kt)
So for the last time, for the sake of the players and fellow az community memebers, please resume what you were doing on or before spetember 20th, which was specifically, not posting here.
We all thank you and respect you in advance for deciciding to impose a voluntary lifetime ban on yourself.
sincerely,
rg
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av84fun said:
Hey, you're right, unless you had a sex change and changed your name to Debi in most cases. You learn something new every day!! What does a home page have to do with it?
NYC Dude...<<i refer you back to the third paragraph, midaway through, where linda specifically refers to the WPBA not allowing it's players to particiapte in the ipt, which is why linda was asked by the ipt to submit her own application.>>
I tried to stand down...but oh well.
Re: your above comment, as is typical of your desperation to save face, the comment from Linda...which I have copied below in its entirety does not REMOTELY confirm you inaccurate version of what happened.
Below is an excerpt from her full post.
<<At the KOH while I was standing in line with Monica Webb, I asked her how she and the other WPBA'ers were finally allowed to join the IPT, and she stated that they were in meetings as we spoke, working it out.>>
That comment has no REMOTE bearing regarding your CONFIRMED to be INCORRECT story that LJJ quit the WPBA in order to be able to do the MS match. As TWO highly respected posters have CONFIRMED...that never happened. LJJ had, for all intents and purposes, withdrawn for the tour LONG before the IPT was ever created.
But in ANY event...the remarks attributed to Monica MAKE IT CLEAR that that WPBA had not reached any FINAL decisions with respect to their players "J0INING THE IPT TOUR".............SIR.................
Joining the IPT TOUR has NOTHING WHATSOEVER TO DO WITH THE MS/LJJ MATCH...which was not even PART of the IPT TOUR....(Did you see any other TOUR members taking part in that match?? If so, I missed it.)
Look...you stated that LJJ quit the WPBA for the express purpose of circumventing being PROHIBITED by the WPBA from playing the MS match.
But sjm...who you yourself agree is an IRREFUTABLE source on the matter, posted to this forum that LJJ had bowed out the the WPBA tour LONG before the MS match...
You're just wrong Randy...not based on your OPINION or attempts to spin and dance....nor based on my OPINIONS...but rather, you are wrong based on the posted comments of highly respected people who KNOW when LJJ withdrew.
You're just wrong Randy.
<<Who are you that she should even respond to that? >>
Well, polite and reasonable person that she is, she DID respond. She preferred to not provide the names of the plaintiffs so that I could easily obtain the papers in the cases...for the purpose of further educating myself on the transgressions committed by KT....and do you have a PROBLEM with that???
But, in any event, I will obtain the case information easily anyway so...no problem.
There is no point in continuing this dialog since all the points have been made and made again.
So, post what you want sir...I will no longer respond unless you make defamatory remarks about me which...taking Mr. Wilson at his word...which is gold in my opinion...you won't be around here to respond to.
Regards,
Jim
Linda's full post. (and please note the very last sentence)
<<My 02 cents for what it's worth...I remember that Loree Jon and Robin quit about the same time, but they both appeared from time to time, while dropping down the rankings. This was long before the IPT, as SJM confirmed.
Someone told me this, so it's hearsay, but at the time, I was told that Allison had an APA commitment that coincided with the IPT event, so she bowed out, regretfully.
At the same time I was applying for my husband to the IPT (and he blesses me every day now for that ), they asked me to apply since the WPBA was not releasing their players to play.
At the KOH while I was standing in line with Monica Webb, I asked her how she and the other WPBA'ers were finally allowed to join the IPT, and she stated that they were in meetings as we spoke, working it out.
So, I guess both of you are right on certain points, IMHO.>>
I tried to stand down...but oh well.
Re: your above comment, as is typical of your desperation to save face, the comment from Linda...which I have copied below in its entirety does not REMOTELY confirm you inaccurate version of what happened.
Below is an excerpt from her full post.
<<At the KOH while I was standing in line with Monica Webb, I asked her how she and the other WPBA'ers were finally allowed to join the IPT, and she stated that they were in meetings as we spoke, working it out.>>
That comment has no REMOTE bearing regarding your CONFIRMED to be INCORRECT story that LJJ quit the WPBA in order to be able to do the MS match. As TWO highly respected posters have CONFIRMED...that never happened. LJJ had, for all intents and purposes, withdrawn for the tour LONG before the IPT was ever created.
But in ANY event...the remarks attributed to Monica MAKE IT CLEAR that that WPBA had not reached any FINAL decisions with respect to their players "J0INING THE IPT TOUR".............SIR.................
Joining the IPT TOUR has NOTHING WHATSOEVER TO DO WITH THE MS/LJJ MATCH...which was not even PART of the IPT TOUR....(Did you see any other TOUR members taking part in that match?? If so, I missed it.)
Look...you stated that LJJ quit the WPBA for the express purpose of circumventing being PROHIBITED by the WPBA from playing the MS match.
But sjm...who you yourself agree is an IRREFUTABLE source on the matter, posted to this forum that LJJ had bowed out the the WPBA tour LONG before the MS match...
You're just wrong Randy...not based on your OPINION or attempts to spin and dance....nor based on my OPINIONS...but rather, you are wrong based on the posted comments of highly respected people who KNOW when LJJ withdrew.
You're just wrong Randy.
<<Who are you that she should even respond to that? >>
Well, polite and reasonable person that she is, she DID respond. She preferred to not provide the names of the plaintiffs so that I could easily obtain the papers in the cases...for the purpose of further educating myself on the transgressions committed by KT....and do you have a PROBLEM with that???
But, in any event, I will obtain the case information easily anyway so...no problem.
There is no point in continuing this dialog since all the points have been made and made again.
So, post what you want sir...I will no longer respond unless you make defamatory remarks about me which...taking Mr. Wilson at his word...which is gold in my opinion...you won't be around here to respond to.
Regards,
Jim
Linda's full post. (and please note the very last sentence)
<<My 02 cents for what it's worth...I remember that Loree Jon and Robin quit about the same time, but they both appeared from time to time, while dropping down the rankings. This was long before the IPT, as SJM confirmed.
Someone told me this, so it's hearsay, but at the time, I was told that Allison had an APA commitment that coincided with the IPT event, so she bowed out, regretfully.
At the same time I was applying for my husband to the IPT (and he blesses me every day now for that ), they asked me to apply since the WPBA was not releasing their players to play.
At the KOH while I was standing in line with Monica Webb, I asked her how she and the other WPBA'ers were finally allowed to join the IPT, and she stated that they were in meetings as we spoke, working it out.
So, I guess both of you are right on certain points, IMHO.>>
av84fun said:
Oh, I guess that makes sense. My life isn't exciting enough to post pictures about, so a homepage type thing seemed pretty foreign to me.
NYC cue dude
Banned
av84fun said:
I guess this is another instance of good ole jim telling the truth about how much support his bitterness and arguing garned during his memorable, albeit brief, stint here on az brought.