OB-1 Cue Shafts

twilight said:
I too have a similar shot that I do with the same result. The cue ball just ends up spinning in place. I also agree with the last post. The OB-1 also has a better feel.

Just wanted to note that I'm in no way knocking the predator shafts. I love them. I just think that the OB-1 is just the next step up.

Hey "twilight",
You stated my exact thoughts!!!
"Have a nice day",
Lamar
 
Feel

SPetty said:
Actually, one of the good selling points of the OB-1 is that it gives you good "feel". They somehow fill the middle with foam and that really betters the "feel". I say "feel" in quotes because I don't always know what people mean when they say that. I can tell you that there's a huge difference in "feel" to me between the Predator and the OB-1.

Please come back here and let us know how you like it and what you think of the "feel". :)

It feels good. The Z to me feels really stiff- in a good way. The universal shaft is solid but seems kind of dead and it was really heavy.

The OB def. needs something other than a Triangle on it. I am going to change out to moori med. tomorrow.
 
ShaneT58 said:
I got one on the way that is 30". He said there was no extra charge becuase it was just as easy for him to make a 30" shaft as it was to make a 29" shaft.

I asked the same question and was quoted $10 additional.
 
gforces1911 said:
I got mine today- I have not hit a ball with it. I have had the 314, Z, Universal and now the OB-1. Lately though I have been playing with an ivory ferrule/ivory jt.

I usually like the techo shafts- can do a lot more with them but sacrifice a lot of feel. I really liked the Z. USS was a little dead feeling.
Does the Ivory joint and ferrule cut down deflection for you? How do you feel it effects the play of the cue as opposed to a wood to wood with a "normal" material ferrule?
 
lamar25 said:
Hey "twilight",
You stated my exact thoughts!!!
"Have a nice day",
Lamar
Hi Lamar,
Good to see you today at the IPT pre qualifier. If you want to order a blank that only needs the joint, I can match it up to one of your Hightower cues with my silver work in the rings for about $50. Not sure how hard they are to work with but if you want one for one of my cues we can give it a try.

Chris
www.hightowercues.com
 
Not sure what you mean

Nineballchamp said:
Does the Ivory joint and ferrule cut down deflection for you? How do you feel it effects the play of the cue as opposed to a wood to wood with a "normal" material ferrule?

Personally- with the high tech shafts I do not have to compensate as much (in re an aim point) as I do with a normal custom shaft with an ivory ferrule. For example- on some shots with my regular playing cue I am aiming with full english just to hit the ball dead on- it does something - deflects- and the ball goes in. I do feel that the tech shafts are more accurate- but that the interior of the cue ball is very sensitive. Not sure if that would make sense to anyone. A lot of the aiming things that I do a the table are strange- I am a Bert Kinister guy.

I have had 2 steel jointed predator cues and the the USS which I had on a Rick Howard, a steel jointed Black and a Josey Sneaky (all via adaptor).

I have heard on the Seyberts board that the 314 and Z are being revamped. I am interested.

The only thing strange so far about the OB is the ferrule- when I sight down my cue it just looks like the shaft is there with no ferrule at all. It is somewhat strange at first. I am thinking that the moori will change the whole composition.
 
StevenPWaldon said:
A longer shaft won't affect cue ball deflection. It's the end mass (i.e. near the tip) that matters.
It is a little off topic from this thread, but not much. I've always wondered is it the absolute mass at the end or the amount of end mass relative to the butt mass?
 
cueman said:
Hi Lamar,
Good to see you today at the IPT pre qualifier. If you want to order a blank that only needs the joint, I can match it up to one of your Hightower cues with my silver work in the rings for about $50. Not sure how hard they are to work with but if you want one for one of my cues we can give it a try.

Chris
www.hightowercues.com

Hey Chris,
Thanks, will let you know, I'm not sure of my plans at this point.
Lamar
 
lamar25 said:
Hey Chris,
Thanks, will let you know, I'm not sure of my plans at this point.
Lamar
Let me know what you decide. They may have an off the shelf shaft that will fit one of your other brand cues if you want to try one on one of those.
 
13mm

gforces1911 said:
Personally- with the high tech shafts I do not have to compensate as much (in re an aim point) as I do with a normal custom shaft with an ivory ferrule. For example- on some shots with my regular playing cue I am aiming with full english just to hit the ball dead on- it does something - deflects- and the ball goes in. I do feel that the tech shafts are more accurate- but that the interior of the cue ball is very sensitive. Not sure if that would make sense to anyone. A lot of the aiming things that I do a the table are strange- I am a Bert Kinister guy.

I have had 2 steel jointed predator cues and the the USS which I had on a Rick Howard, a steel jointed Black and a Josey Sneaky (all via adaptor).

I have heard on the Seyberts board that the 314 and Z are being revamped. I am interested.

The only thing strange so far about the OB is the ferrule- when I sight down my cue it just looks like the shaft is there with no ferrule at all. It is somewhat strange at first. I am thinking that the moori will change the whole composition.


My OB shaft is 13mm and 3.8 oz. I really appreciate them sending me a larger diameter. I played with it yesterday and it does have a good feel.
 
30" length price difference

Shinobi,


I wanted to give you an update on the price issue for 30" shafts.

Originally, I had not intended to charge for the additional length because there were no additional material costs. My blank is long enough to accomodate the length already. I did not expect there to be that many requests for it and making a few would not slow down production that much. But now I am getting a fair amount of requests for them and it does require extra time to keep them seperate and change the setups.

I have changed that policy and I do now charge $10.00 (list) for the additional length. Since we sell at a 20% discount anyway, it is really only $8.00 additional at the retail price.

I hope this causes no inconvenience to anyone, and I thank all those who have posted about the OB-1.

Royce Bunnell
Owen Bunnell Inc.
www.obcues.com
 
Royce,
I just ordered one of your shaft and assumed that they were all 13mm. I guess that was a bad assumption on my end (oops). What is the standard tip diameter?
 
RBC said:
Shinobi,


I wanted to give you an update on the price issue for 30" shafts.

Originally, I had not intended to charge for the additional length because there were no additional material costs. My blank is long enough to accomodate the length already. I did not expect there to be that many requests for it and making a few would not slow down production that much. But now I am getting a fair amount of requests for them and it does require extra time to keep them seperate and change the setups.

I have changed that policy and I do now charge $10.00 (list) for the additional length. Since we sell at a 20% discount anyway, it is really only $8.00 additional at the retail price.

I hope this causes no inconvenience to anyone, and I thank all those who have posted about the OB-1.

Royce Bunnell
Owen Bunnell Inc.
www.obcues.com

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website

LightWeight said:
Royce,
I just ordered one of your shaft and assumed that they were all 13mm. I guess that was a bad assumption on my end (oops). What is the standard tip diameter?


The website says that they are 12.75. I am really happy that I got 13mm.
 
LightWeight said:
Royce,
I just ordered one of your shaft and assumed that they were all 13mm. I guess that was a bad assumption on my end (oops). What is the standard tip diameter?

I happened to email that same question to him. It is 12.75 mm.
 
Gforce

Yes, the shafts are all made at 12.75mm. I have filled a few requests to leave them around 13mm, but I feel that they play a little better at 12.75mm. The construction of the blank makes diameters and tapers a little different than a conventional shaft. We tried a number of different combinations before we landed on what we now use. I think it provides the best combination of control and spin. The shaft seems very flexible if you just bend it with your hands to see how stiff it is, but it does not play whippy or flexible. The hit is very solid.

Royce Bunnell
Owen Bunnell Inc.
www.obcues.com
 
Thanks

RBC said:
Gforce

Yes, the shafts are all made at 12.75mm. I have filled a few requests to leave them around 13mm, but I feel that they play a little better at 12.75mm. The construction of the blank makes diameters and tapers a little different than a conventional shaft. We tried a number of different combinations before we landed on what we now use. I think it provides the best combination of control and spin. The shaft seems very flexible if you just bend it with your hands to see how stiff it is, but it does not play whippy or flexible. The hit is very solid.

Royce Bunnell
Owen Bunnell Inc.
www.obcues.com

Hi Royce-

I am very happy with the shaft. I will probably end up with a 12.75 if I get one for another joint. Good product and it is good to have competition in the marketplace for us end users. Well made and constructed- and it does have a very good feel. I have a friend who will probably call about getting one for his cue.

I noticed that yesterday I was hitting the edges of the ball quite well esp. with distance cutting balls on the short rail.
 
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