Ob shaft with predator ferrule !!!!

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Putting a Predator ferrule on an OB shaft violates the OB-Predator Shaft Repair Guy :smile: Code Of Ethics
Order a wood ferrule from OB and we will pretend this never happened.
 
Looks good. Them some funky looking jaws on that headstock. Where you get them from and what kind are they ?? Never seen any look like that before.

Lee Casto
 
About a few things you mentioned in the video.

First, if you've seen very many of our maple ferrules that were broken, odds are they had the carbon fiber pad removed when the tip was replaced. We have seen broken ferrules caused by just flat out not enough tip as well, but not near as many as have come in with no pad. Over the years, I would estimate that less than 1% of the ferrule replacements we have done have been just a failed maple ferrule. Most have had the pad removed, and some have come in with less than .050" of tip sidewall left. Most of them we've replaced for free anyway. At least we did the first time, lol!

You mentioned that you thought the Predator ferrule might be lighter in weight than the original ferrule. Actually the specific gravity of the plastic is quite a bit more than the laminated maple ferrule.

Obviously, I don't think we'll be doing any warranty repairs on that shaft. lol!



Royce Bunnell
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People are misinformed enough about LD. This doesn't help.

I'm sure there will be plenty of fools wanting to get their shafts modified like this hack job. You forgot to add in the unobtanium. :rolleyes:
 
Big C said:
I'm sure there will be plenty of fools wanting to get their shafts modified like this hack job. You forgot to add in the unobtanium. :rolleyes:
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Why is it a hack job? The guy is just fooling around with his own stuff. He has the means and desire to do it.

I've replaced many ferrules with ivory cause the customer wanted it. I've taken ivory off and replaced with synthetic ferrules cause the customer wanted it. Ive re tapered shafts cause the customer wanted it. The OP did the exact same thing, only he was his own repairman.

Being curious and following through on your curiosity does not make one a hack.
 
iusedtoberich said:
Why is it a hack job? The guy is just fooling around with his own stuff. He has the means and desire to do it.

I've replaced many ferrules with ivory cause the customer wanted it. I've taken ivory off and replaced with synthetic ferrules cause the customer wanted it. Ive re tapered shafts cause the customer wanted it. The OP did the exact same thing, only he was his own repairman.

Being curious and following through on your curiosity does not make one a hack.
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Well said. Just as Enigmaticul stated.... Just For Funnzies.

Go easy on the guy. He's just experimenting on his own stuff.

Lee Casto
 
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- ob cues you are right. I should have specified that most of the repair jobs i did on ob shafts is because of very very poor maintenance , no pads , breaking with the tip and not changing the tip on time. For me I just like a white ferrule at the end of my shaft, it's not that the wooden one is bad but I guess is all personal preference.

- I do feel that I have reduced front end mass a little. The predator ferrule "feels" lighter then the ob one. Of course I do not have a scale to be super accurate but this is not a dissertation.

- the jaws are circular jaws from taig bored out. I like them because I have a tool from Bassel to precise bore them every time I need. Other then that I guess they serve the same purpose.

- HACK JOB lol you are funny I am not even going comment on that.


I love doing stuff like this. It tests my skills as a wannabe repairman/cue maker and who knows maybe one day it will actually yield out something productive.

The shaft feels solid , no buzzes or weird noises. Probably I will put a ultra skin soft on it and see how it goes.
 
iusedtoberich said:
Why is it a hack job? The guy is just fooling around with his own stuff. He has the means and desire to do it.

I've replaced many ferrules with ivory cause the customer wanted it. I've taken ivory off and replaced with synthetic ferrules cause the customer wanted it. Ive re tapered shafts cause the customer wanted it. The OP did the exact same thing, only he was his own repairman.

Being curious and following through on your curiosity does not make one a hack.
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You are right, I shouldn't have said "hack job". My apologies to the OP and anyone else that may have been offended. But I do feel like the OB1 shaft should not be bastardized by modifying it with a competitors ferrule. To each his own. Just my opinion.
 
People usually don't take care of their equipment like I do. I am beyond anal with all my cues. But yes predator ferrules tend to crack if you break with them because the walls are so thin. I see idiots all the time breaking like monsters with 314"2. So far I have had good luck with predator shafts. Along the years I had probably 4 or 5 all played great.
 
Enigmaticul said:
People usually don't take care of their equipment like I do. I am beyond anal with all my cues. But yes predator ferrules tend to crack if you break with them because the walls are so thin. I see idiots all the time breaking like monsters with 314"2. So far I have had good luck with predator shafts. Along the years I had probably 4 or 5 all played great.
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We use the exact same ferrule on our OB Break shafts as we do on our OB-1's. The break shafts all come with the Samsara break tip that doesn't wear very much, so most don't ever get replaced. I don't recall ever replacing a ferrule on one of our break shafts. As long as it has one of our carbon fiber pad's and the tip isn't too thin our ferrules last extremely well. We even warranty them for life. Keeping the pad is something that is special to our shafts, but any ferrule can be damaged if the tip is too thin.

Breaking with any cue or shaft is a little tougher on it than not, but it doesn't mean it should readily fail. We don't "deny" and repairs just because someone breaks with or has broken with their OB cue or shaft.


By the way, I think the line at the bottom of your ferrule install is indicative of a small gap between the ferrule and the shoulder of the cue shaft. You mentioned that you matched up the length stepped down tenon to match that of the ferrule. I recommend leaving a little extra room there meaning the tenon should be a little short. It's one of those machining areas where the tolerances should be + 0, and minus maybe .010". If you run any longer than the female side in the ferrule, it will hold your ferrule up off of the base shoulder of the cue shaft and cause a gap there filled with epoxy.


Royce
 
Trust me there is no gap. The small discoloration might be from the glue seeping in the wood which I like. It's only cosmetic anyway. The conversion went very well. I am very happy with the results and I already had 2 customers interested in the same conversion.

Again all for funzies
 
Enigmaticul said:
Trust me there is no gap. The small discoloration might be from the glue seeping in the wood which I like. It's only cosmetic anyway. The conversion went very well. I am very happy with the results and I already had 2 customers interested in the same conversion.

Again all for funzies
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Trust others when they say that. The only times a ferrule will have that line on the bottom is when there is a gap. I've replaced enough ferrules to know that a glue line like that should never happen. Doesn't matter what type of glue, or ferrule.
 
You are more then welcome to visit me and see for yourself the gapless installation. Trying to discredit my work is pretty low but O well. It's not my first ferrule either and some of them have a line some don't. Condition of wood, temperature, type of glue all affect the outcomes.
As long as there is a solid hit , smooth transition so what there is a discoloration line.

I love taking advice and I bug the shit out of people with questions how to do things but like Gandhi I listen from all and do my own thing.
 
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