It don't matter. I am trying to make a game and you are obviously scared shitless.
Object ball "Skid" - real or just a BS excuse?
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From now on your name is No One
Well since the 12 ball ghost doesn't impress you. We can both play it back and forth for whatever you want to play for and at the end we will see how impressed you are.(and how broke you are)
How about an 8-ball + 9-ball + snooker combo bet. I'll have some on The One.
Even if the Big Hurt is a highly ranked pro, it wouldn't be a walkover. Two outings back TheOne knocked off Van Den Berg pretty handily and has done pretty well against a host of top pros incl 8-9 v Efren. VDB went on to win that tour event as I remember.
Anyway, hardly sounds like a fun evening out playing a loud mouth with bad temper.
Even if the Big Hurt is a highly ranked pro, it wouldn't be a walkover. Two outings back TheOne knocked off Van Den Berg pretty handily and has done pretty well against a host of top pros incl 8-9 v Efren. VDB went on to win that tour event as I remember.
Anyway, hardly sounds like a fun evening out playing a loud mouth with bad temper.
Colin Colenso said:How about an 8-ball + 9-ball + snooker combo bet. I'll have some on The One.
Even if the Big Hurt is a highly ranked pro, it wouldn't be a walkover. Two outings back TheOne knocked off Van Den Berg pretty handily and has done pretty well against a host of top pros incl 8-9 v Efren. VDB went on to win that tour event as I remember.
Anyway, hardly sounds like a fun evening out playing a loud mouth with bad temper.
I have never played snooker. I will play him 8 ball, 9 ball, 10 ball, 1 pocket, any or all of the games and since you have felt free to open your big mouth you have the same offer since you are an IPTer. You and I can also play the 12 ball ghost back and forth. Now all you have to do is grow some balls to match your mouth
Colin Colenso said:How about an 8-ball + 9-ball + snooker combo bet. I'll have some on The One.
Even if the Big Hurt is a highly ranked pro, it wouldn't be a walkover. Two outings back TheOne knocked off Van Den Berg pretty handily and has done pretty well against a host of top pros incl 8-9 v Efren. VDB went on to win that tour event as I remember.
Anyway, hardly sounds like a fun evening out playing a loud mouth with bad temper.
You gotta luv a guy that spouts off on the internet but hides behind an alias lol Hey I climbed mount everest on my munch break and I'll fight anyone for a million if they put up the cash!
By the way as far as playing I have the best temperment of any player. Matter a fact we can play mum pool where if you open your mouth you lose the game. I just got aggravated because the one is one dense s.o.b. and I cannot stand stupidity. By the way he still has never mentioned how no chalk on cloth, no chalk on object ball, no chalk on cueball. no chalk on tip, clean balls with alcohol, has anything to do with actual game play.
Hmmm... could it be that when we pick up the cueball for ball-in-hand play, we transfer a bit of oil from our hands? Then if a chalked tip hits that spot, then there would be chalk stuck on the cueball rather than just "lying on the surface.pete lafond said:
Fred
My name was already mentioned but you were obviously too dumb to notice it. I am the easiest guy in South Florida to find. Since you and Colin want to get ready for the IPT we can just play 8 ball. It would be an honor to play 2 IPTers.
Was thinking about this also the other night. Since playing 9 ball a lot over the last year I haven't noticed nearly as many kicks/skids as when I played snooker. I'm not talking about a small difference either, in a typical session of snooker I would expect to see several kicks/skids an hour. I can hardly remember more than a handful of kicks in the last few months playing on American tables. I would say its almost 50:1 to 100:1 difference?
The only difference I can see is:
a) Weight/Size of balls
b) Cloth
I have used similar chalk playing both and this didnt seem to have any effect?
The only difference I can see is:
a) Weight/Size of balls
b) Cloth
I have used similar chalk playing both and this didnt seem to have any effect?
Geezus, It happens. It has happened to me and at the worst possible time, over and over...LOL Who cares why it happens, it freaking happens and you can't do squat about it. You can intellectualize it to death but it still happens. If it hasn't happened to you your just not playing enough. If you want to waste your time worrying about why and if it is going to happen again welcome to your personal problem.thebighurt said:
If I ever play you 'mum pool' would be just fine...LOL
This is just a ridiculous statement. If you know why it happens, you can do squat about it by trying not to do what causes it.cheesemouse said:
It's like saying...
Why does my cueball jump off the table every time I break? It just happens, so who cares why it happens...I can't do squat about it.
fred_in_hoboken said:
After reading most of that 9-page thread, I believe that Pete agrees that side-spin transfers, but rather it is the semantics that he does not agree with. (Sorry Pete, I don't mean to put words in your mouth, but that it my conclusion after reading this thread.)
Transfer: To convey or cause to pass from one place, person, or thing to another.
Case 1: Straight shot, no english on CB => OB results in roll (forward spin).
Case 2: Straight in shot, left english => OB results in "twist" (forward spin + right english).
In both cases, the "forward spin" on the OB was a result of the friction of the cloth. Assume that CB was hit slow enought that any minute backspin or slide on the OB rubbed off quickly and turned into roll.
In case 2, there was "transferred" english from CB to OB, and there was also the forward roll caused by the cloth friction. Side spin + forward spin = twist. Pete, I think you just don't agree with the word "transfer", but please check out the definition and I think you might actually agree with the term. Its a pretty loose term.
Analogy: throw football out of car passenger window. (Disclaimer: do not throw footall out of window.
) Your arm "transfers" momentum to the ball to the right (assuming U.S. car -- left side driver). The car "transfers" momentum to the ball in the forward direction. These vectors combine so that the football is travelling "diagonally" (with respect to the road).
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Boy, I thought I had a bad weekend till I started reading this thread, lol.
One point you guys are missing is that massive skids occur, imo, much more often on new cloth with new balls. The Camel tour was absolutely riddled with skids using brand new simoniz and brand new Belgian balls on brand new Diamond tables.
It's my belief that most skids are caused by something picked up off of the pocket by the object ball. Soft rubber pockets are notorious for rubbing off on the balls and have caused most skids I have seen on worn pool room cloth. But the leather pockets on Diamonds (and Snooker tables?) also rub off onto the balls leaving a brownish burn-looking mark. Diamond has been working for years to minimize that problem.
The lowering of friction between cloth and balls resulting from playing with new cloth, new, polished balls, and or even cleaning with ethanol will just increase the likelihood of a skid caused by something on the ball contact point.
unknownpro
One point you guys are missing is that massive skids occur, imo, much more often on new cloth with new balls. The Camel tour was absolutely riddled with skids using brand new simoniz and brand new Belgian balls on brand new Diamond tables.
It's my belief that most skids are caused by something picked up off of the pocket by the object ball. Soft rubber pockets are notorious for rubbing off on the balls and have caused most skids I have seen on worn pool room cloth. But the leather pockets on Diamonds (and Snooker tables?) also rub off onto the balls leaving a brownish burn-looking mark. Diamond has been working for years to minimize that problem.
The lowering of friction between cloth and balls resulting from playing with new cloth, new, polished balls, and or even cleaning with ethanol will just increase the likelihood of a skid caused by something on the ball contact point.
unknownpro
I agree, skids are much more common with smaller balls. The 1 15/16 inch CB in 2-shot pool is a nightmare. Avoid the slow roll through for position like the plague.TheOne said:
Interesting observation!unknownpro said: