Odd 9 Ball CueTable Layout

if i was playing a c yea, but only a c as the out isnt that hard with no balls tied up.
 
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RiverCity said:
The reason is fisherman money in bars........... it can be good if you are willing to push. But no, I dont know Tim.
Chuck
(as long as your not laying on 4" pockets)draw the cue off the 1 giving yourself an angle on the 2.after this shot, draw the cue past the 5 to 1st diamond past side pocket then to the end rail. this will give you perfect on the 3. if you over stroke it hits the 6 as is comes of the end rail. if you under stroke it it hits the 5 and slides downtable. as long as you dont get dead straight on the 3 you should have a simple leave for the 4. after the 4, depending on how you hit the 2, your out from here should be pretty generic.

or another thing ou can do,from the same starting shot on the 1 is usehigh right on the 2. this takes the cue siderail,endrail and back up table between the five and 8 with no chances of contacting either ball. speed control on this shot is imperative. if you underhit it you leave yourslf a difficult cut and overhit you can hook yourself on the 6. as long as you get it at last to the side pocket you should have a managable shot on the 3 to get to the four.

i have no idea why that post was quoted at the top. my comp is crazy i guess.
 
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cubc said:
Bluesteel - I need the 5 out from you if you can run complicated racks like that on demand. edit: nevermind. You couldnt run a rack to save your life with the way you would 'attempt' to play the rest of your shape on the following cuetable pages you have listed. They're not even the right way to go about running a rack at all.

Personally I like holding the cueball on the 1 with inside english and following with top inside on the 2 and coming down for the 3 with a tough cut.
playing the 2 with high inside is stupid. unless you get dead nuts perfect on the 2 to give yourself the exact right angle to keep from hitting the 9 you still have the chance of scratching in the side. before you start criticising their way of runnig a rack you might need to pull your head out of your own ars before you comment. and if i went one of the ways, i would go his not yours.
 
why not

DrCue'sProtege said:
did anyone noticed that you have the angle immediately to move out the 3-Ball from the rail, and make it more playable? and the 2-Ball is fairly close to the rail, for a possible rail first shot.

just thought i might point this out. not sure if its worthwhile to consider or not. hope SJM, Blackjack or Jude Rosenstock chime in here, always value their opinions.

DCP


why not just play a safe. thin the one behind the eight, maybe even hittin the four a little bit, or rolling the cb over by the three?
 
bluesteel,your patterns are workable. just dont use so much english when not necesarry.
 
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Bluesteel had the 2 ball right. Rail with bottom left brings you perfect for the 3... I would hit the 3 and roll out for a bank on the 4... banking is easier than getting shape to a corner here. From there the table opens. I will try running the table out 5 times and post results in a few.
 
Looks to me like this slow rolling shape on the 2 may work (depending on the exact layout of the CB, 1 and 4). If it did I might try this in order to get a predictable angle on the 2:

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Patrick Johnson said:
Looks to me like this slow rolling shape on the 2 may work (depending on the exact layout of the CB, 1 and 4). If it did I might try this in order to get a predictable angle on the 2:

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I like this approach. Also, if you get that angle on the 2-ball, you should be able to draw straight back and bump that 4-ball again. This table still sucks though.
 
DrCue'sProtege said:
did anyone noticed that you have the angle immediately to move out the 3-Ball from the rail, and make it more playable? and the 2-Ball is fairly close to the rail, for a possible rail first shot.

just thought i might point this out. not sure if its worthwhile to consider or not. hope SJM, Blackjack or Jude Rosenstock chime in here, always value their opinions.

DCP
this is a bad choice. you could very easily leave cue ball on the rail or even scratch off the 3. i have always thought never move balls if you dnt have to. this is a difficult out,yes. impossible,no. the only issue is getting on the 3. but you cant guarantee what kind of hit, if any that you get on the 3. what good does it do you when you hit the 3 full and it goes 2 rails out and sits between the cue and 2??? this situation, dont move the 3, play position for the 3. if you dont got it, play safe, but the out is there.
 
Jude Rosenstock said:
I like this approach. Also, if you get that angle on the 2-ball, you should be able to draw straight back and bump that 4-ball again. This table still sucks though.
a big problem with this is if you dont hit the 4 full or if you end end jacked up over the four. again, dont move balls unless you have to. but the table does suck though.
 
subdude1974 said:
a big problem with this is if you dont hit the 4 full or if you end end jacked up over the four. again, dont move balls unless you have to. but the table does suck though.


Well, given the situation here, I think bumping the 4-ball is a small risk. Besides, it's difficult to judge w/ a diagram but in real life, you may be able to control exactly how you bump the 4 so that you avoid the pitfalls you speak of. What really sucks is, even after you solve this little problem, you have more problems in store!
 
Jude Rosenstock said:
Well, given the situation here, I think bumping the 4-ball is a small risk. Besides, it's difficult to judge w/ a diagram but in real life, you may be able to control exactly how you bump the 4 so that you avoid the pitfalls you speak of. What really sucks is, even after you solve this little problem, you have more problems in store!
Yep, it's a pick-your-poison kinda rack...

pj
chgo
 
Tried table and ran out 3-5 times... I played the 1 with bottom out to middle area of table... 2 with bottom and lots of left. It ends on the 3 nice. My first 2 attempt was under hit leaving a hard angle and a miss on the 3 (2nd ball hit today). The next 2 tables I made. I missed the next try by actually coming up table too far off of the 2 and hooking myself with the 6. I ran the 5th. I tried playing the 2 with a bit of bottom right and in passes below the 5 and comes out to middle of table... Had to hit this shot hard for a good shot on 3... In a tournament I think I would try the run out with bottom left.
 
I would probably shoot the shot that Patrick suggested.

But, if actually on the table, I might shoot and try to land right on the side rail though, if I did, I might try the shot shown below on Pg 1,2. If I have a little bit of an angle going into the pocket, I think this shot can be accomplished.

I do not like the shot coming off the head rail and trying to miss the nine. It is just like the 2 rail draw shot; You have to get position exact or you are in trouble.

Another possibility might be to just pocket the 2 and draw back slightly. Then 2 rail the 3 up to the middle of the table, draw over to hit the 6 and leave him a tough bank. (Third page).

Again as everyone stated, lots of difficulties in this rack. Things could change easily once confronted with actual ball placement on a table. What is comfortable for me might not be comfortable for others and vice-versa.

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