odd ball rack found on German site

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Here I am again with another question! :p I found this rack on a German billiard supply's online store. It was in the section with the normal 8 ball triangle and 9 ball diamond racks.

CadrezieherHOLZ.jpg


It was titled "Cadrezieher HOLZ". I tried Google translator but I didn't get anywhere. Does anyone know what it is? What it's used for?

Here is the website it can be found on: http://www.veith-group.de/shop/index1.html

www.veith-group.de
 
Here I am again with another question! :p I found this rack on a German billiard supply's online store. It was in the section with the normal 8 ball triangle and 9 ball diamond racks.

CadrezieherHOLZ.jpg


It was titled "Cadrezieher HOLZ". I tried Google translator but I didn't get anywhere. Does anyone know what it is? What it's used for?

Here is the website it can be found on: http://www.veith-group.de/shop/index1.html

www.veith-group.de
It's intended for tables that don't have pockets. Along with tailor's chalk, it's used to mark areas on a carom table for straight rail and balkline. A more complete marking frame would also include a shape to allow you to mark "Parker's box" which is required for balkline games.

Kozoom.com has a two-DVD set out by Frederic Caudron which shows both how to do the marking and how to play five or six different games on carom tables.
 
Bob's reply is much better that what I would have put in.

It looked to me like someone got both drunk AND high in a rack plant :embarrassed2:
 
Are you sure about that, Bob? It looks a lot like the rack used in a game known as "Der Freakinballsen", a game played on a four meter by three meter table that had no rails and only one pocket, and was quite popular in Germany during the war years.
The rack you see pictured was placed in the corner directly opposite the corner where the only pocket was located and filled with ten red balls and one white ball. The cue ball was usually black and oftimes adorned with political symbols.
As for the game itself, the person chosen to break, called the Burstenleader, would stike the racked balls as gently as possible to avoid sending any balls off the table. Doing so would demand a penalty of two points per ball.
Each player would take his turn at the table until all the red balls were pocketed. The player who had made the last red ball would then be eligible to have a go at the white ball for bonus points.
The game fell out of favor during the post-war years primarily due to the length of time required to finish a match, which in some instances was five to six days. The reason for this, as mentioned earlier, was because the table had no rails and players were continually hitting balls off the table and incurring penalties.
One tidbit of information worth noting is Freakinballsen is the German word for "Crazy Billards". :)
 
Tramp Steamer, do you have more info on this game? I'm interested now.

Sorry, blackflag. That was a story told to me by my Mother's Uncle, Hans Christian Fleiglemeister. Uncle Hans had immigrated to the United States, just before Hitler had come to power, where he opened up a "Freakinballsen Parlor" in New York City, near Battery Park.
As it turns out, Americans weren't ready for a game as slow as Freakinballsen, preferring to stick with One Pocket, and Uncle Hans had to close the place up. He died, only last year, still regretting that decision. :)
 
I had no idea the Shamwow was German made. They are the Mercedes Benz of blankets. I want one now.
Altho, I think all they are is backwards bath robes.

Tramp, I believe the German game was also known as FrickenBallsen. Probably because they fell off the table much.
One of the Frickenballsen rules was, every time you dropped a ball off the table, as part of your foul penalty, you also had to eat
a small bowl of cold Sauerkraut. After a six hour game, you can imagine all the players that were pooting in the room.
For a new customer entering the room, the odor was enuff to send them back out the door, one of the other reasons
that the Frickeballsen rooms closed up shop.
 
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Tramp Steamer, that is sad to hear. Well, I'll try to find more about the game. It sounds interesting. I wonder if it could be adapted for a standard pool table? Hmm...
 
Sorry, blackflag. That was a story told to me by my Mother's Uncle, Hans Christian Fleiglemeister. Uncle Hans had immigrated to the United States, just before Hitler had come to power, where he opened up a "Freakinballsen Parlor" in New York City, near Battery Park.
As it turns out, Americans weren't ready for a game as slow as Freakinballsen, preferring to stick with One Pocket, and Uncle Hans had to close the place up. He died, only last year, still regretting that decision. :)

Just too funny. Rep to you for making my day.
 
I had no idea the Shamwow was German made. They are the Mercedes Benz of blankets. I want one now.
Altho, I think all they are is backwards bath robes.

Tramp, I believe the German game was also known as FrickenBallsen. Probably because they fell off the table much.
One of the Frickenballsen rules was, every time you dropped a ball off the table, as part of your foul penalty, you also had to eat
a small bowl of cold Sauerkraut. After a six hour game, you can imagine all the players that were pooting in the room.
For a new customer entering the room, the odor was enuff to send them back out the door, one of the other reasons
that the Frickeballsen rooms closed up shop.

Make me laugh even harder. Thanks
 
I had no idea the Shamwow was German made. They are the Mercedes Benz of blankets. I want one now.
Altho, I think all they are is backwards bath robes.

Tramp, I believe the German game was also known as FrickenBallsen. Probably because they fell off the table much.
One of the Frickenballsen rules was, every time you dropped a ball off the table, as part of your foul penalty, you also had to eat
a small bowl of cold Sauerkraut. After a six hour game, you can imagine all the players that were pooting in the room.
For a new customer entering the room, the odor was enuff to send them back out the door, one of the other reasons
that the Frickeballsen rooms closed up shop.

Not only that, Blue, but cold saurkraut will put a film of crud on the roof of your mouth something awful. You'll look like a dog that's been eating peanut butter. :)
 
I love sauerkraut.

Can anyone find the rules to this game? sounds interesting. I wonder if it could be adopted for a standard table?
 
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