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sorry for the late reply guys. Someone answered a key question that most ask, there's no need for a perfect break (as long as you don't scratch) and clusters won't matter, now i'm sure that there will be the devil cluster but what's the percentage of that when you have the opportunity "every single time" to land perfect on the break ball for it and any other time after that. I actually like the game and think that the odds are close enough to not make it a hustle depending on skill level as someone mentioned.
I came up with another game on the spot the other day and was surprised as to how close the match turned out.
Once again playing 14.1 rather than giving a person X amount of ball as a handicap that person gets X amount of balls after every rack unless the other person runs the whole rack. So both player are going to 100 (let's say) and the stronger playing will spot (in my case) 5 balls "after" each rack unless the stronger player clears all 14 balls, believe it or not but that game came right down to the wire.
The one game i've been wanting to see two really strong rotation players play is my 14.1 rotation mix, here's how it goes. You play 14.1 as regular (this is a gambling game by the way, it's just designed to make some extra cash like when they put money on a random ball in 9 ball) BUT you make $20 (as an example) on each and every ball that you make that corresponds with that ball in that rack.
i.e.
let's say you just broke open the back and you make 4 balls there after as you shot ball number 5 if that happens to be the 5 ball you'd get paid the deuce then if you make the 6 after than it's another deuce and so forth. If you ran 10 ball and the 11 ball is the 11 then same thing.
I feel that changes the dynamics of the original game and creates or forces new patterns and that's why i'd like to see like an Efren and the like play this game.
But back to the topic, let me know you guys who have a home table or had a chance to try it out, oh and Chicken let me know who you got to bite and how it worked out.
 
Cezar Morales said:
Nah, i dont like mime thats becoz i doubt i have the consistency.

But again, i doubt a decent hundred ball runner would like to take on ur bet as its just too little margin for error.
Somone who can take up ur bet wld prob be a player who can consistently run 6-7 hundred outta 10 in order for them to take up ur challenge.
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??? I'm confused. What is a 'decent' 100 ball runner? If you're a '100 ball runner' ,
you are way above the curve!
Now, about those 6-7 hundred ball runners.....where are they????
You can bust me every day with those guys!!!!
And for the other proposition.....the hand-span...for this 100 ball run, I'd rather have BIH with a break shot to start.
My bet would be that the OP gaff was that first rack with no shot.
ps
I could even play BB 1 hole with the hand-span.....I think...maybe
....yea. I'll give it a try.....but don't high-roll me BB, you know I'm old and shaky.....+ blind & cripple.
 
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one thing is for sure
if you get any bets,now that you have given the rules
anybody who is thinking about it,has already tried it at home
90% find that it is way harder than they thought

and they won't bet
the very few who can bet,are going to be winners

other than of course a very few gamblers with no sense
 
deanoc said:
one thing is for sure
if you get any bets,now that you have given the rules
anybody who is thinking about it,has already tried it at home
90% find that it is way harder than they thought

and they won't bet
the very few who can bet,are going to be winners

other than of course a very few gamblers with no sense
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I didn't understand what was so hard about it. The whole time I was playing I was thinking "what's the catch?".
 
I will be right over. Why don't you go stand in the street out front of your house and look for me?

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Gunn_Slinger said:
??? I'm confused. What is a 'decent' 100 ball runner? If you're a '100 ball runner' ,
you are way above the curve!
Now, about those 6-7 hundred ball runners.....where are they????
You can bust me every day with those guys!!!!
And for the other proposition.....the hand-span...for this 100 ball run, I'd rather have BIH with a break shot to start.
My bet would be that the OP gaff was that first rack with no shot.
ps
I could even play BB 1 hole with the hand-span.....I think...maybe
....yea. I'll give it a try.....but don't high-roll me BB, you know I'm old and shaky.....+ blind & cripple.
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OK, just to clarify. BIH after every single shot, no matter what as long as you don't scratch, correct?
 
ChicagoRJ said:
OK, just to clarify. BIH after every single shot, no matter what as long as you don't scratch, correct?
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Yes, BIH after every single shot and to clarify for others that would be on the opening break also just like the 14.1 high run at derby i think it is
 
7forlife said:
Yes, BIH after every single shot and to clarify for others that would be on the opening break also just like the 14.1 high run at derby i think it is
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Thanks for clarifying. Any reasonably solid player should be able to beat this game.
 
I did it on my first try. I wouldn't say it's a lock, but I feel I'm a strong favorite.

The hardest parts are clearly the break shots. These aren't bad for three reasons:

1) You get ball in hand so can pick your favorite angle, get close to the ball, etc.
2) You don't need to open up many balls, 3-5 is plenty as you can use secondary break balls.
3) It's easy to manufacture your favorite break ball for the next rack when you can give yourself any angle you want to nudge them around a little as you clear the table.

The secondary break balls are also easy for the same reasons, as well as the fact you don't have to worry about the cue ball getting tied up. You can break them softer, you don't need to open them up, just make sure one of them has a pocket that opens up another, etc.

Honestly other than the break ball the hardest part of the game is not getting lazy. Clearing full pockets. Not fouling an object ball. Not racking the break ball by mistake. Taking practice strokes.

I don't know exactly what my success percentage would be under pressure. If someone was betting enough at me I could see choking at some point. I'm not sure if I'd be 60% or 90%. But I definitely like my end of it.
 
Tin Man said:
I did it on my first try. I wouldn't say it's a lock, but I feel I'm a strong favorite.

The hardest parts are clearly the break shots. These aren't bad for three reasons:

1) You get ball in hand so can pick your favorite angle, get close to the ball, etc.
2) You don't need to open up many balls, 3-5 is plenty as you can use secondary break balls.
3) It's easy to manufacture your favorite break ball for the next rack when you can give yourself any angle you want to nudge them around a little as you clear the table.

The secondary break balls are also easy for the same reasons, as well as the fact you don't have to worry about the cue ball getting tied up. You can break them softer, you don't need to open them up, just make sure one of them has a pocket that opens up another, etc.

Honestly other than the break ball the hardest part of the game is not getting lazy. Clearing full pockets. Not fouling an object ball. Not racking the break ball by mistake. Taking practice strokes.

I don't know exactly what my success percentage would be under pressure. If someone was betting enough at me I could see choking at some point. I'm not sure if I'd be 60% or 90%. But I definitely like my end of it.
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Thanks a lot for he feedback and those basically were the same way i saw it and views i had on it from the beginning.
 
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