Old School vs. New School Players

[alstl]

The games have changed. I don't even think Babe Ruth would make it to the Majors today; juiced or not. Jordan and Chamberlain were so good because they were so ahead of their time. How do you defend a style you've never seen before? Kobe learned the game from watching Jordan...and believe it or not, Kobe does it better. You think Wilt Chamberlain can play with Duncan or Shaquille or even Lebron? You're crazy.

If you're over 40, think back to your high school days. How many pitchers had fastballs in the 90's? Not only that, but how many of them could accurately throw 6 different pitches? In my school, if you couldn't throw harder than 82 or 83, you didn't pitch: end of story. And we had 5 different guys hitting the low 90's (I wasn't one of them).

You had 5 guys in your high school who threw low 90's and accurately threw 6 different pitches? Sorry, I don't buy it.

 

[tpdtom]

Thanks, Grady.

How good was Jimmy Reid?

I saw most of the great players like Cornbread Red, Buddy Hall, Marvin Henderson, Jimmy Mataya, Boston Shorty, Bugs, Grady, Keith, and many more play for LARGE amounts of cash at The Rack in Oak Park Michigan in the '79-'82 era. Jimmy Reid was the best 9 Ball player for big bucks that I ever saw. Bar none ! I saw him playing One Pocket and something on a snooker table but I don't remember the details. Playing 9 Ball, he looked invincible when he was "flyin'". It was a pleasure to watch...Tom

 

[ShootingArts]

hmm, let's see 1973

If you're over 40, think back to your high school days. How many pitchers had fastballs in the 90's? Not only that, but how many of them could accurately throw 6 different pitches? In my school, if you couldn't throw harder than 82 or 83, you didn't pitch: end of story. And we had 5 different guys hitting the low 90's (I wasn't one of them).

1973, right after the last ice age. Just out of high school a friend of mine tried out for the Houston Astros. He threw the ball through the traps three times in a row at 99.8. He was annoyed he couldn't break 100.

Hu

 

[punter]

1973, right after the last ice age. Just out of high school a friend of mine tried out for the Houston Astros. He threw the ball through the traps three times in a row at 99.8. He was annoyed he couldn't break 100.

Hu

Anybody remember David Clyde?

 

[Drew]

You had 5 guys in your high school who threw low 90's and accurately threw 6 different pitches? Sorry, I don't buy it.

They weren't the same guys...We had guys that threw 6 pitches and we had guys that threw 90.

Of our 90+ club:
My best friend dislocated his shoulder playing football and can't hit 90 anymore. He was only good for 20 tosses back then. Today he can throw 5balls at about 85.

Two went on to D1 schools and I haven't heard much since then.

One got expelled. Never heard what happened to him.

One went to the Air Force Academy and quit baseball. He should be a captain now.

We had a catcher that that threw pretty darn fast too. But of all the times we clocked him, he couldn't break 89.6.

 

[ironman]

80 years ago dude. I'm not saying he wasn't a dominating player...he absolutely was. But almost a century later, the game has changed too much. How many MLB players are overweight drunks? There's a reason why you don't see that anymore.

If I owned an NFL team and OJ Simpson or Earl Campbell were available in the draft and my Head Coach didn't take him, he would be out on his ass.

 

[!Smorgass Bored]

I Jes Tell 'Em, I Dont Splain 'Em

If I owned an NFL team and OJ Simpson were available in the draft and my Head Coach didn't take him,

he would be out on his ass.

I really expected you to say, "heads would roll."
Doug
( or, that you'd cut him from the team )




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[alstl]

They weren't the same guys...We had guys that threw 6 pitches and we had guys that threw 90.

Of our 90+ club:
My best friend dislocated his shoulder playing football and can't hit 90 anymore. He was only good for 20 tosses back then. Today he can throw 5balls at about 85.

Two went on to D1 schools and I haven't heard much since then.

One got expelled. Never heard what happened to him.

One went to the Air Force Academy and quit baseball. He should be a captain now.

We had a catcher that that threw pretty darn fast too. But of all the times we clocked him, he couldn't break 89.6.

My nephew coached high school baseball in North St Louis County last year. Only 15 or 20 kids go out for the baseball team, the rest are either thugs/gang bangers, don't have the grades, or just don't care about baseball. Of the kids who did go out for the team he had a few who could touch 90, including one who went to a Big XII school to play quarterback.

If you compare that to 25 years ago, which was the point of your original post, the teams from 25 years ago would easily beat this current crop of players. The fundamentals were superior back then because the kids played more on their own just for fun outside of organized ball. Now you tend to see kids with raw talent but it isn't refined.