On Chuck Bobbitt...

[Ed Simmons]

Ouch!

Give this one a try corvette.
Peace, Purdman

Purdman,
It was bad enough that this thread has the name Bobbitt in the title, but did you really have to include this picture to re-inforce the image????



Q: What did Jeffrey Dahmer say to Lorraine Bobbitt?

A: You eating that?

 

[shinobi]

Is that the best you can do? Geezy peezy, go back to shoving your beak with those wonderful fast-food hamburgers that your six-figure salary buys. What a joke you are.

I won't even lower myself to your "crack pipe" comments, but if you want to talk about PMs and green rep, I have received no less than 10 green reps from persons who thanked me for responding to you. In fact, the common descriptive adjective used when your name was mentioned was "asshole."

Now go take some pictures, and let us all see what color urinal you're using today, or maybe we will all be privileged to know how your bowel movement went this morning. It must have not been good because you are still full of it.

JAM

JAM, please see forum rules, that you break continuously:

"To be included, there will be no ad hominem attacks. No name calling nor insults. Disagreeing with someone is fine, but calling them an idiot because of their opinion is not.

All posts will be kept civil."

 

[JAM]

JAM, please see forum rules, that you break continuously:

"To be included, there will be no ad hominem attacks. No name calling nor insults. Disagreeing with someone is fine, but calling them an idiot because of their opinion is not.

All posts will be kept civil."

The last time you posted directly to me was below:

No wonder JAM is such a strong Earl supporter.

Earl:
Plays fast.
JAM:
Types fast.

Earl:
"You suck, you suck, all of London sucks!"
JAM:
Same.

Earl:
Thinks everyone is out to get him.
JAM:
Thinks people stalk her from thread to thread.

Earl:
Won't call a foul on himself, even if everyone saw it, it's televised and shown on replay.
JAM:
A true professional at denying what she just wrote. Edits replays (posts) if required

Earl:
Oblivious to the reasons he is in heated disputes in nearly every tournament he enters.
JAM:
Oblivious to the fact that she's involved in a dispute in nearly every thread she posts in.

Earl:
Insists Drago fouled at Mosconi cup. Replay was shown, and it wasn't even close to a foul. Ignores replay, sticks to his guns.
JAM:
Insists European fans were bad in the Youtube video. Says she'd edit the video to show the bad parts but doesn't know how. Asked multiple times to do something simple (provide time indexes) and continuously ignores those requests.

Earl:
One of the best players to ever play the game. A hall of famer. Despite his behavioral antics, a truly amazing player.
JAM:
One of the best posters to ever post on the forum... in her own mind.

Bonus oblivious point for JAM:
More than 8200 posts on AZBilliards, yet thinks it is clever to insult another poster for spending too much time on the forum.

Incidentally, I love watching Earl play and generally find his antics amusing, not bothersome. If the tournament operators wanted to penalize him for it they could, but choose not to.

This post brought you by a sucker-punching monkey, keyboard cowboy, or whatever insult-of-the-day JAM is using now.

This person you are speaking about has targeted my boyfriend, a professional pool player, on many occasions by referencing him in a derogatory manner. In the post I replied to, he referred to me using a crack pipe, which is insulting.

What is good for the goose is good for the gander, and personally, after reading your post once again about me and Earl, I don't give a damn what you think about my reply to Corvette. You can join the others in the Ban JAM Campaign, along with TheOne, Smoking Pancakes, et al.

JAM

 

[ScottW]

Ah, the Internet. Being used for what it was designed for - insulting faceless individuals from the safety of thousands of miles away.

 

[corvette1340]

JAM, please see forum rules, that you break continuously:

"To be included, there will be no ad hominem attacks. No name calling nor insults. Disagreeing with someone is fine, but calling them an idiot because of their opinion is not.

All posts will be kept civil."

Shinobi,
Its the same old story from thread to thread. She simply can't accept the fact that people have differing opinions than hers. Then when someone does, she starts name calling and plays the innocent role. She constantly barks about people not being able to play at a pro level and therefore they shouldn't be listened to but how does she play and what has she done for the game? Yeah, she has gone to a lot of tournaments, WOW, so has eveyone else on the board. She talks about the bad state of the game and the low payouts, but what has she done to make them better except complain? She talks about supporting pool, but what money has she contributed? She can't even donate the $20-$25 for the PPV to help TAR. Anyway, just put her on ignore like others do and maybe she'll get the hint eventually and stop attacking.

 

[JAM]

Ah, the Internet. Being used for what it was designed for - insulting faceless individuals from the safety of thousands of miles away.

That is correct, to a certain extent, ScottW, but some of us on this forum do have a face, and our identities are known.

Then there are the unidentified trolls, who are unidentified by their own choosing. Some deem it as a privacy issue, and other use it their advantage if they do not like another member of this forum.

When posters tell you to suck their [fill in the blank] in LIVE CHAT, attack member's loved ones only because they don't like the member, et cetera, et cetera, well, ScottW, you've seen it before as well, I am sure.

JAM

 

[JAM]

Shinobi,
Its the same old story from thread to thread. She simply can't accept the fact that people have differing opinions than hers. Then when someone does, she starts name calling and plays the innocent role. She constantly barks about people not being able to play at a pro level and therefore they shouldn't be listened to but how does she play and what has she done for the game? Yeah, she has gone to a lot of tournaments, WOW, so has eveyone else on the board. She talks about the bad state of the game and the low payouts, but what has she done to make them better except complain? She talks about supporting pool, but what money has she contributed? She can't even donate the $20-$25 for the PPV to help TAR. Anyway, just put her on ignore like others do and maybe she'll get the hint eventually and stop attacking.

You can continue your game-playing, Corvette, but the fact of the matter is you cannot make untruthful statements about me and expect me to not respond.

Whether you have me on ignore or not, I kind of like it because I can then speak the truth, hopefully without your rude replies, i.e., "crack pipe" comments.

As far as what I have contributed to pool, for starters, ask a half dozen or more independent promoters about me and/or take a stroll on Wikipedia someday and read about American pool players. That's just for starters.

You continue to write I did not purchase a TAR video showing, as if I am cheap. I don't have PayPal and did not know how to purchase it. However, somebody did purchase it for me in Georgia, and I paid them back by sending them a check in the mail. Why would you keep mentioning this TAR video and me not purchasing it when it is an untruth?

Oh, that's right. You can't answer it because I'm on ignore. I kind of like this ignore.

JAM

 

[Danny Kuykendal]

If everyone had to post who they were, full name only, even if not where they live, wouldn't they be a little less likely to be so mean spirited?

It's no wonder so many pros will not post here.

This thread is becoming the epitomy of what's wrong with being able to be incongito in forums. Unfortunately, AZ Billiards refuses to require names, and so people who get their dander up can snipe, insult and out-knife the person who has made them mad.

I say AZ should do the right thing and require people indicate who they are, and make the forum more harmonious.

Would someone from AZ please respond?

Happy to say who I am.

Danny

 

[BVal]

You can continue your game-playing, Corvette, but the fact of the matter is you cannot make untruthful statements about me and expect me to not respond.

Whether you have me on ignore or not, I kind of like it because I can then speak the truth, hopefully without your rude replies, i.e., "crack pipe" comments.

As far as what I have contributed to pool, for starters, ask a half dozen or more independent promoters about me and/or take a stroll on Wikipedia someday and read about American pool players. That's just for starters.

You continue to write I did not purchase a TAR video showing, as if I am cheap. I don't have PayPal and did not know how to purchase it. However, somebody did purchase it for me in Georgia, and I paid them back by sending them a check in the mail. Why would you keep mentioning this TAR video and me not purchasing it when it is an untruth?

Oh, that's right. You can't answer it because I'm on ignore. I kind of like this ignore.

JAM

Good thing nothing about your replies are ever rude.

BVal

 

[JAM]

Good thing nothing about your replies are ever rude.

BVal

BVal, when somebody is rude to me, I reply in kind. Sorry if this offends you. Maybe when somebody attacks a loved one of yours, you can create a thread and go off, the way you did in previous times. Maybe then you can understand it fully.

JAM

P.S. BVal, there is a big difference between being rude and telling untruths, telling untruths for the sole reason to insult others.

 

[!Smorgass Bored]

MEOW, It's Just Me....The Cat.

If everyone had to post who they were, full name only, even if not where they live, wouldn't they be a little less likely to be so mean spirited?

It's no wonder so many pros will not post here.

This thread is becoming the epitomy of what's wrong with being able to be incongito in forums. Unfortunately, AZ Billiards refuses to require names, and so people who get their dander up can snipe, insult and out-knife the person who has made them mad.

I say AZ should do the right thing and require people indicate who they are, and make the forum more harmonious.

Would someone from AZ please respond?

Happy to say who I am.

Danny

Oy-vey, here we go again. Second verse, same as the first.
Doug Wiley

 

[BVal]

BVal, when somebody is rude to me, I reply in kind. Sorry if this offends you. Maybe when somebody attacks a loved one of yours, you can create a thread and go off, the way you did in previous times. Maybe then you can understand it fully.

JAM

P.S. BVal, there is a big difference between being rude and telling untruths, telling untruths for the sole reason to insult others.

I sent you a PM explaining my thoughts . My loved one was attacked and I could of and should have handled it better. If it happened again I would handle it differently. I look at the situation and think "what does this person saying these things mean to me?" I take it from where it comes from and move on.

BVal

**Enough about this in here though. This has nothing to do with Chuck Bobbitt and the players not getting paid.**

 

[frankncali]

With what I have read about Chuck and heard about him I agree with
Corvette. If he REALLY WANTED to pay the guys off he would have done so by now. He owns a business and is successful. You go down and do something (bank, liquidating) to raise some money. Even if its only a third and tell the guys that you are working on it. Anything to show good faith.

Sure the players want their dollars but had this been handled differently I don't think it would be as big of an issue as it has become.

IMO the UPA has shown its true colors of only using the pool community.
If your a promotor and say 25k added then have 25 sitting there. Its that simple.
I will say that I am surprised at how much leeway Barry was given for a couple years yet people seem to be taking Chucks actions differently.

I give the guy some Kudos for just doing the event but not for these actions. He should have went to Jay or someone afterward and said this is what I have what should I do. He coupld have paid everyone 50% and then asked for a month for the rest. To stiff anyone is bad but why just the top players.

 

[!Smorgass Bored]

Some Parts Of My Body ARE Well Endowed... imo

Give this one a try corvette.
Peace, Purdman

Don, that guillotine urinal doesn't scare me one little bit. I couldn't reach that blade on my best day ever.
Doug
( I'd be more scared of a snapping turtle in the urinal.......a HUNGRY angry snapping turtle )

*I'm shaking it here, boss. I'm shaking it.
.

 

[Danny Kuykendal]

Hey Doug, at least I know who you are now.

I'd love to get a response from AZ. This thread would have never gotten so personal if people had to own up to who they are.

And sorry, yeh I've said this before and apparently to no avail.

And, it is the right thing to do.

Danny

 

[frankncali]

If everyone had to post who they were, full name only, even if not where they live, wouldn't they be a little less likely to be so mean spirited?

It's no wonder so many pros will not post here.

This thread is becoming the epitomy of what's wrong with being able to be incongito in forums. Unfortunately, AZ Billiards refuses to require names, and so people who get their dander up can snipe, insult and out-knife the person who has made them mad.

I say AZ should do the right thing and require people indicate who they are, and make the forum more harmonious.

Would someone from AZ please respond?

Happy to say who I am.

Danny

I think most people would be surprised at just how many people on here DO know each other. This forum is no different thatn most others on the net. There will always be differences of opinion and a small section of jerks.
However for the most part I think AZ is a good forum. We have several sectors of our community represented well and you can find a wealth of information as well.

Posting our names would maybe stop 10% of the bickering. What stops 100% is both parties just living with the fact that people have different opinions.

I would love to see more Pro pool players post here but in all honesty I dont know what they would post about. Would they give table layouts and advice? Only a handful do that and most that come on here seem to
want to "be someone" on here when most of us are very happy with Danny Ks opinions and Corvettes humor and Jude layouts and Smorg being Smorg.

BTW-- sorry I wasnt able to play your event but I think I am going to start playing with Jon Berkers more often at your room.
Evre thought about a straight pool league. Depending on the day Im in!!


Frank

 

[BVal]

If everyone had to post who they were, full name only, even if not where they live, wouldn't they be a little less likely to be so mean spirited?

It's no wonder so many pros will not post here.

This thread is becoming the epitomy of what's wrong with being able to be incongito in forums. Unfortunately, AZ Billiards refuses to require names, and so people who get their dander up can snipe, insult and out-knife the person who has made them mad.

I say AZ should do the right thing and require people indicate who they are, and make the forum more harmonious.

Would someone from AZ please respond?

Happy to say who I am.

Danny

My name is Brady and I am an AZB-aholic.

I just completed step-1. Admitting I have a problem.

Now I just need a sponsor to call when I am away from the computer and I need my fix.

BVal

 

[Roy Steffensen]

JAM: I gave you neg rep based on your replies to this post, which was corvette1340's FIRST post in this thread. Not one word was directed to you, and he didn't say anything bad at all, imo.

Why in the world can this guy that supposedly owns a business and had a lot of money spent by spectators nor anyone of his friends nor anyone from the UPA not come up with 30g's? LMAO, its not like its millions of dollars to begin with. When people like this say they can't come up with that amount of money, they are lying and simply don't want to pay it.

This was your answer:

If it's such a paltry amount, why don't you hand it over? You're such a big mouth and a braggart. Yesterday, you had to post to all how you have a college education, make six figures, and don't reconcile your checking account and only look at your brokerage accounts.

You post pictures on this forum of what you do during the day, which fast foot restaurant your six-figure salary takes you to, what your desk looks like, what the inside of your car looks like. I mean, my God, what's next? Are we going to see what your favorite urinal looks like?

If 30K is such an easy amount to acquire, then put it up or shut up.

JAM

In THIS thread there is no doubt that YOU started with namecalling. For that I gave you bad rep.

You then responded by giving me bad rep for this post:

I am pretty sure that Chuck knew that he had not the funds atleast 1 week before the tournament started.

It would be a lot cheaper for him to cancel the event...

I can't feel sorry him...

*Next time anyone wants to guarantee added money, especially of the size of 25 000, make sure it requires a minimum numbers of entries, f.example a full field of 128...

And this was your comment when giving me bad rep:
"It is okay for others to use "crack pipe" comments to me, and when I respond, you give me red rep? Right back at you. You in the past joined TheOne, Corvette, Watchez, and others against me. Your true colors are revealed once again."


1. You have obviously misunderstood the whole concept of reps, or you actually mean that my post was not good. I guess you don't disagree with what I wrote. Was it some sort of "revenge" by giving me bad rep, since I gave to you? After all, I felt that I had a reason for it. You started a fight with Corvette for no reason, and I felt you crossed a line.

2. You write that I have joined several others posters in the past, against you. The last time I got bad rep (and only other time) was also from you, in a thread about Ortmann after he won the World 14-1 Championship. You and me had an argument about open/closed tournaments in Europe, and European buckingham-guards, if my memory are correct.

This is the only issue we have been "fighting" about, and I don't feel I crossed any lines in that discussion.


I happen to enjoy most of your posts on this forum, JAM, and I love to read your posts about stories from the past, about players you've met, tournaments you've been to, and a lot more things.

During my time on AZB I have perhaps given you green rep about 10 times, the last time about 2-3 weeks ago. I was supposed to give you green rep for another post just a couple of days ago, but I had to spread around. I am not a part of a "ban JAM group", as you like to think, and I am dissapointed that you believe so based on our different opinions about one issue.

As I just said, I happen to enjoy the majority of your posts. Unfortunately you seem to get in "trouble" with many different people on this board, on many different subjects. Instead of claiming that there excists a "ban JAM community" here on AZ, perhaps you could spend some time analyzing the posts that starts the trouble. Could it be that you are part of the problem?

In this thread, there is no doubt which post, and which person who started the war. For that I gave bad rep, and I would have given that to any person who started it, not only you.


I guess I deserved my bad rep from you for that

 

[JAM]

As I just said, I happen to enjoy the majority of your posts. Unfortunately you seem to get in "trouble" with many different people on this board, on many different subjects. Instead of claiming that there excists a "ban JAM community" here on AZ, perhaps you could spend some time analyzing the posts that starts the trouble.

And maybe you should address your comments to the posters who insulted me. There is a reason why I respond in the manner which I do. I do not think you would like the "crack pipe" comment directed at you, would you? And that was just ONE out of MANY insults.

In this thread, there is no doubt which thread, and which person who started the war. For that I gave bad rep, and I would have given that to any person who started it, not only you.

You probably should read the comments -- PLURAL -- written by the person who I was responding to before you pass judgment on me.

And furthermore, there are some on here who enjoy tag-teaming. You are one of them.

Forum games. PM each other back and forth about it. Have at me. I don't give a damn.

JAM

 

[Danny Kuykendal]

Frank, well said, and I agree with a lot of what you say. How many members would AZ lose if they required names? If 10% snipe because they can, wouldn't it eliminate just about all of it?

I'm only complaining about this because when it does happen it's a blood bath, and it's like someone throwing grenades from an unknown location.

If they had to own up to what and how they say something they might think twice before they broadcast it to the pool world.

I know about 5% of the people who post here, either because they post their name or I've seen them somewhere before.

Even players who come in to Danny K's don't tell me who they are on this forum. I find that kind of funny. Like I might criticize something they posted.

I wouldn't know who you are Frank if it weren't for some recent posts.

Just my opinion, and my guess is that it will go nowhere.

Danny