On the subject of Business Models

Roadie

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Since we are all learning a lot about various things throughout this saga about things like fraud, harrassment, bankruptcy, net worth, legality and much more i think we should discuss business models.

It has been said that the business model of the IPT is/was flawed, had no chance, and my personal recent favorite, "could not have sustained a lemonade stand".

It needs to remain clear that if Trudeau had actually earmarked some 15 million to fund this project for 2-3 years with "throw away" money then the business plan as was laid out by Trudeau might have worked. In any event, a business model that starts with guaranteed seed money to fund it for a 2-3 year growth period is generally fantastic. Unless there is truly some kind of completely perverse logic in the model, such as 'we will use our 15 million to pass out 12.5 million t-shirts advertising our company and the money will roll in.....' type of thing then generally a halfway sound idea and dedicated qualified folks are enough to make a successful business when there is enough seed capital to weather the beginnings.

In this case, the flaw appears to be that Trudeau did not have or allocate the capital to sustain the business through the period he claimed. None of us could have known that last year when the IPT began. Thus, the business model that Trudeau laid out at the Orlando tournament was in fact a sound one on the basis of having the investment capital and the resources in both management and network to make the Tour into a profit making entity.

The linchpin is entirely the capital base. Of course we all could see that on the face of it the IPT was having far more expenditures than income. But that should not have mattered one bit because of Trudeau's claims. Had Trudeau paid out the prize fund in Reno as guaranteed then the entire discussion, or at least the largest percentage would be about the qualifying rounds and the rankings. In other words no one would be able to say that the busness plan is/was unworkable with any credibility IF the seed money were in fact there. Because, when someone takes 15 million and uses it to start a venture in a market with a user base of around 300,000 habitual users and ten million casual ones then they truly have have to be idiots not to succeed where there is no competition.

Billiard Sports are a classic and traditional staple. Presented correctly, they will succeed on television and build a loyal fan base of non-players.
Trudeau is correct in a lot of his assessments about the market and what can happen, at least I see it that way. If he truly believed it would happen within months as opposed to years then he is far more deluded than those he deludes.

I welcome correction on this from our more knowledgeable business folks. The question I have for you is what would you do signifigantly differently from the stated plan that Trudeau laid out in Orlando last year if you had 15 million dollars as investment capital?
 
Roadie said:
I welcome correction on this from our more knowledgeable business folks. The question I have for you is what would you do signifigantly differently from the stated plan that Trudeau laid out in Orlando last year if you had 15 million dollars as investment capital?
For starters, I would be more conservative on the expenditures. I would not have made that 100K tour card guarantee. And I would reduce the top prizes by half. (Efren can still make ends meet on 250K instead of 500K.)
 
PoolSharkAllen said:
For starters, I would be more conservative on the expenditures. I would not have made that 100K tour card guarantee. And I would reduce the top prizes by half. (Efren can still make ends meet on 250K instead of 500K.)

Granted, Although that guarantee wasn't part of the Orlando speech, at least I think it wasn't, I do seem to remeber that it was off the cuff originally and then grew into an advertised item. That would be an example of overspending the stated seed money on an as yet unsustainable model.

Prize funds are definitely an area to be looked at.
 
Roadie said:
Granted, Although that guarantee wasn't part of the Orlando speech, at least I think it wasn't, I do seem to remeber that it was off the cuff originally and then grew into an advertised item. That would be an example of overspending the stated seed money on an as yet unsustainable model.

Prize funds are definitely an area to be looked at.

I have the Orlando speech here somewhere, but it is misplaced.

If my memory is correct, that is where KT made the $100,000 Promise.
At the time, I was very excited and listened intently and this is when the first red flag was raised for me.

Kt was on a roll and selling the idea of profits from DVD sales and what not. He then mentioned the licensed products and how they would share in those profits, "And that is how I can garuntee you $100,000 next year. Now, what percentage of those products, I don't know that."

My reaction was, how do you sell a "COMP PLAN" without knowing exactly what it is? I never heard anyone talk about this point at all and just let it go, but it always bothered me.

Any way, FWIW that is how I remember it being in Orlando.
 
Roadie...<<The question I have for you is what would you do signifigantly differently from the stated plan that Trudeau laid out in Orlando last year if you had 15 million dollars as investment capital?>>

As ususal..an excellent post from you. You are entirely correct that the leading cause of new business failure is under-capitalization from the beginning.

However, on the other hand, as was proven with many of the well-capitalized "Dot.com" start-ups of the late 1990s...funded by large IPOs...capital is an essential but NOT decisive factor in new business success.

My FAVORITE example of huge money chasing an impossible dream (to put it kindly) was a company that went public with a business plan to have people order their GROCERIES on-line and either pick them up at the store or have them delivered. Of course, the company chewed up all its capital and went bankrupt rather quickly.

IMHO, there is one central flaw in what we believe to be the IPT business plan....

That was the notion that offering HUGE prize payouts would create a massive, Texas Hold 'Em style buzz that the competitions themselves, which have been televised for many years, have never been able to achieve.
a. Supplemented with the idea that 8 Ball, being America's game of choice, would help to create a viewer identity not achieved with 9 Ball.

Actually, the idea had its "turn at bat." There actually was an 8 Ball tournament held in Vegas with all-time record prize money on the line...and paid out.

The events were video taped with reasonable professionalism and offered to advertising sponsors all over the world.

However, the fact of the matter is that the TV ratings for the events broadcast so far have been significantly disappointing...relative to what must have been business plan expectations at which point the wisdom of risking large additional sums became suspect.

I don't think anyone here knows whether KT has the money and has simply elected not to risk it given the above realities or whether he never possessed anywhere near the funds he suggested he had and was willing to risk.

But the answer to that question really isn't meaningful to the outcome. What is meaningful is whether the core concept makes senses because, if it doesn't, then even a confirmed multi-billionaire, like Stanley Ho, whose fortunes undoubtedly grow EVERY WEEK by sums greater than the amount KT said he would risk, will not put those sums at risk.

In my personal opinion, the main reason why televised pool matches have never ignited into significant national popularity is that the game, to the uninitiated (meaning 99% of the population) looks too easy.

The great players...unless they get unlucky rolls, just shoot one "simple" shot after another (in the eyes of the uninitiated). Most people have NO CLUE what intricate eye-hand coordination and KNOWLEDGE is required to make all those simple shots become simple.

On the other hand, everyone KNOWS how hard it is to drive a golf ball 320 down the middle and to drain 30 ft. putts. People KNOW how hard it is to serve/return serve and hit backhand smashes down the line in a tennis match. They KNOW how hard it is to throw a baseball at 97 mph or to hit one. And they can imagine what it must feel like for ONE 220 pound football player to be chased by 11, 340 pound players...all of whom want to rip his head off.

But shooting a few pool balls in a row into the hole? Big deal...they think.

Commentators and tv producers have fought for DECADES to find a solution to the dilemma but so far, have failed.

PLAYING pool is VERY popular in the U.S. Some 40 million bangers play consistently. But they do it mostly to kill time while drinking or trying to get laid and they could CARE LESS about watching pool matches on TV.

As I have said in another thread, I have been to LOTS of major national events with THOUSANDS of active, league players in town and the PRO mathes can't even get a full house (a few hundred being full) of spectators from among THOSE avid league players so why in the world should we expect typical members of the general public to watch on TV?

Answer? They DON'T watch.

FINALLY, there is only one thing for sure and that is the ONLY way proven to make HUGE sums of money from pool spectators...is MOVIES about pool. And that has happened only twice in the past 40+ years.

I would speculate that the revenue produced from The Hustler and Color of Money over the years, is FAR, FAR greater than the revenue produced by all pro pool matchs over the past 40 years COMBINED!

So, if you want to make money off pool...HUGE sums of money anyway, the ONLY proven method of doing so is by producing a pool-based film...which is what I am involved with at the present time.

Stay tuned.

Regards,

Jim SCOTT
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JIM,

SO TRUE. Pool on the scale that Sigel envisioned and K*&T tried to execute won't work in this country. It takes something else.....I don't know what.

Best of luck with the movie endeaver, after spending apprx a yr on this site its obvious there's a TON of material to weave and mold. A quality pool flick is a potential home run.

Plse keep us posted as best you can.

Thanks
 
I went to Orlando. Was told that it cost 3 million to put on. Maybe as high as 4 million. I have no real idea what the costs were but it was obvious that they were high.

When I observed the spectators I noticed that there may have been a couple dozen actual "fans". Or people who paid to be there to watch the pros. Not a good sign at all.

The rest were players forced to be there and people in the trade who were there to mingle with the players and publicize their products.

So right from the beginning I was wondering what the business plan was. Anyone can form a league if he wants to just shell out money and not worry about taking any in but how do you run a tour at a profit?

I could not see where the IPT would make enough money to break even, let alone make money. Especially when you consider how few people really wanted to be there and watch the games. The non-playing players would not have been there if not forced to be there that was obvious.

As far as all the hype and positive comments by KT for the future that was all expected and surely should have been taken with a grain of salt. It is a common type of speech given by promoters. Almost like a High School pep rally before the big game when everyone knows your team is going to get slaughtered but you still want to believe in the impossible dream.

As far as the so called $100,000 guarantee for 2007 I am sure that the players thought that was a pretty good possibility if, and only if, the tour was a success, and made it into 2007. They most likely were thinking that if they could get half, or $50,000 a year for playing pool, that would have been great. I doubt that anyone seriously took the $100,000 guarantee as really a written type guarantee and that they would have to wait until the 2007 season to see what kind of contract KT would offer them.

The $100,000 sure was a good hook though. Players who had trouble earning $15,000 a year now all of a sudden are worth $100,000 to play and lose? Give me a break.

Two things doomed the Tour. 1) Not enough people were willing to play in qualifiers and 2) the general public just is not interested in watching a game of pool and therefore the advertizers just were not interested.

So it was only a matter of time until the money would run out.

The only way a tour can be successful is to find a way to bring money into the tour. When players can figure that one out then they might be able to form a tour. Until then they have no chance. At present all the players want to do is take money out of a tour.

So the writing was on the wall at Orlando and it was just a matter of time how much longer the tour would last. How much money would KT toss into the money pit? At what point would enough be enough? Would he stay the course and make it into 2007? That would have been nice, but it does seem that he finally ran out of dedicated funds. Perhaps he started with 5-7 million and not the 15 or so million he said he would dedicate. That is still a lot of money to lose.

Whatever he started out with it seems obvious that he has spent it and the game is over.

It may really be funny if the IPT really was an honest venture on his part and that it just failed. Sorta like an O'Henry novel.

Jake
 
PoolSharkAllen said:
For starters, I would be more conservative on the expenditures. I would not have made that 100K tour card guarantee. And I would reduce the top prizes by half. (Efren can still make ends meet on 250K instead of 500K.)

I think the 100K got the qualifers in motion, the backers were going to be in on next years guaranteed money. Money in the bank, so it was easier to pull $2,000 out of their pockets now.
 
successful tour

It is very possible to make a successful tour that will generate and income. Now that income may not bringing the owner/operator of the tour millions every year but it would give them a nice comfy lifestyle. Had the camel tour been ran by someone that was honest it would be much stronger and bigger now. The thing people have to remember is that you start small and get bigger. When you go into something like thise think about the players, the fans and yourself but yourself last. That was the first nail in the coffin of the IPT Kevin thought of himself first and formost. Every sport has to start small and develop over time. The second thing is that is should concentrate solely on the USA. Lets forget the world they have plenty in their countries. Everything that is needed to put together a sucessful tour. There is also everything already there to have a true system to becoming a professional player. The UPA had the right right thoughts but the wrong moves. KT came out with the correct thoughts but the wrong moves

Basically until people that attempt to bring out a professinal tour do it without the selfish thoughts there will never be one that will work long term. Also there are ways to advertise the tours stops but don't be afraid to pay for them and they do not include million dollar commercials.
 
Robroy said:
I think the 100K got the qualifers in motion, the backers were going to be in on next years guaranteed money. Money in the bank, so it was easier to pull $2,000 out of their pockets now.

I think you are exactly right. Jake makes light of the $100,000 per year and suggests nobody took it seriously when in fact it was all anyone was able to talk about. Players were again inspired and working at the game harder than many had ever worked at it in their lives. They were actually in training. Why, because, there were actually garuntees. KT talked for some 40 minutes on the $100,000 and his whole point was to sell them on the idea. He did too. In most any structure, obviously, nothing sells like money.

Pool Rooms all over the country were installing the 'New IPT Cloth" for players to train. There were qualifiers for many who were now just sick because they had not taken this seriously and not applied properly and felt left out. Older players were focused and playing as if they were posessed, and for the first time had a real reason to excell at something they loved. The qualifires were going to enable them and give them a second chance at being a part of that $100,000 garunteed money. Money was in the bank.

Backers were coming out of the wood work in hopes of getting in on the Garunteed $100.000. The qulifiers started at $1000 per event and failed. The magic number was 64 per event and never remotely close to realistic. Then the prize money increased and the qualifier amount as well to $1500 and then to $2000. The business model and business plan was out the door. The escrowed money, and the $100,000 garuntee had bitten the IPT right in the butt.

Next, Eurosport had merged or bought into the IPT for $150 million. That didn't last long. London was mysteriosly cancelled. Then the whole Reno payout saga. The COO lost all credibility. The HO merger, buyout, or possible fabrication. The problem was, no maoney was actually escrowed and the $100,000 for 2007 was not possible and he knew it.

No money was coming in to the IPT as thought. Nobody ws buying his hype and the Rah Rah lasts only so long.

The business model was only as good as the the 15-28 million that was to be escrowed. Without it, it was only a matter of time. Because of their inablilty to implement a sound business plan and someone to use it as the backbone of the Tour the walls inevitably came tumbling down.

Now 200 are owed 3 million. Efren is owed $500,000 and I would bet that Mark Trainer and his stable are owed pretty close to that anount. How much is owed to individual backers? Who really knows. They are owed because IMO, of the $100,000 garunteed in 2007. Without the money escrowed, their was no business model. The business plan was never a factor.

The qualifiers continue though.
 
I wasn't really asking for a recap and a history lesson of what the IPT did wrong, but suggestions on what could be done better if, hypothetically, one actually had the money that Trudeau had claimed to have.
 
Roadie said:
I wasn't really asking for a recap and a history lesson of what the IPT did wrong, but suggestions on what could be done better if, hypothetically, one actually had the money that Trudeau had claimed to have.

Well, my humble apology.
 
Roadie said:
The question I have for you is what would you do signifigantly differently from the stated plan that Trudeau laid out in Orlando last year if you had 15 million dollars as investment capital?
Hire the geniuses that produced the World Poker Tour (on the Travel Channel) and produce a higher-quality TV program that would attract a much broader audience.

Again, it's all about TV. Unless people watch the darn thing on TV, the tour will never make the money to sustain itself.
 
ironman said:
I think you are exactly right. Jake makes light of the $100,000 per year and suggests nobody took it seriously when in fact it was all anyone was able to talk about. Players were again inspired and working at the game harder than many had ever worked at it in their lives. They were actually in training. Why, because, there were actually garuntees. KT talked for some 40 minutes on the $100,000 and his whole point was to sell them on the idea. He did too. In most any structure, obviously, nothing sells like money.

Pool Rooms all over the country were installing the 'New IPT Cloth" for players to train. There were qualifiers for many who were now just sick because they had not taken this seriously and not applied properly and felt left out. Older players were focused and playing as if they were posessed, and for the first time had a real reason to excell at something they loved. The qualifires were going to enable them and give them a second chance at being a part of that $100,000 garunteed money. Money was in the bank.

Backers were coming out of the wood work in hopes of getting in on the Garunteed $100.000. The qulifiers started at $1000 per event and failed. The magic number was 64 per event and never remotely close to realistic. Then the prize money increased and the qualifier amount as well to $1500 and then to $2000. The business model and business plan was out the door. The escrowed money, and the $100,000 garuntee had bitten the IPT right in the butt.

Next, Eurosport had merged or bought into the IPT for $150 million. That didn't last long. London was mysteriosly cancelled. Then the whole Reno payout saga. The COO lost all credibility. The HO merger, buyout, or possible fabrication. The problem was, no maoney was actually escrowed and the $100,000 for 2007 was not possible and he knew it.

No money was coming in to the IPT as thought. Nobody ws buying his hype and the Rah Rah lasts only so long.

The business model was only as good as the the 15-28 million that was to be escrowed. Without it, it was only a matter of time. Because of their inablilty to implement a sound business plan and someone to use it as the backbone of the Tour the walls inevitably came tumbling down.

Now 200 are owed 3 million. Efren is owed $500,000 and I would bet that Mark Trainer and his stable are owed pretty close to that anount. How much is owed to individual backers? Who really knows. They are owed because IMO, of the $100,000 garunteed in 2007. Without the money escrowed, their was no business model. The business plan was never a factor.

The qualifiers continue though.

I wonder how well the qualifiers are doing. Those players have to wonder about a future payoff for their efforts.

A $100,000 Tournament Win payoff would have been enough to get players interested, that would have allowed the lower ranks to enjoy some monies for their efforts too.

Getting the Tournament Audience to grow into large numbers, seems to be a problem around here. Very few show up at the qualifiers. I'd like to see a Pro-Am Tournament held at each qualifier, to incorporate the local players (audience) into the scheme of things. This might get people aroused all across the nation and/or around the world.

The media has to be incorporated (newspapers, magazines & TV). That will be a great addition to the schema of things too. The media can actually assist in the advertising of these events & pump up the events & the audience too.
 
Roadie said:
The question I have for you is what would you do signifigantly differently from the stated plan that Trudeau laid out in Orlando last year if you had 15 million dollars as investment capital?



Great question, great post.
 
jsp said:
Hire the geniuses that produced the World Poker Tour (on the Travel Channel) and produce a higher-quality TV program that would attract a much broader audience.

Again, it's all about TV. Unless people watch the darn thing on TV, the tour will never make the money to sustain itself.
You're talking about Steve Lipscomb,
here is a detailed article of how he made poker popular.
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How Poker Became Popular - Part 1
Before Steve Lipscomb launched the World Poker Tour, poker had a vaguely seedy rep. Now it's a national obsession, and the WPT is a public company with a market cap of $300 million. How Lipscomb built his empire -- without risking a cent.

Layne Flack needs a six. His opponent has just called Flack's raise, placing Flack's entire stack of chips, several hundred thousand dollars' worth, in jeopardy. This is happening in the World Poker Tour's "arena," an elevated table surrounded by flashing lights, multiple cameras, and hundreds of wide-eyed fans. The last two cards are about to be dealt.

Backstage, Steve Lipscomb is barking instructions into a headset while pacing and gesturing wildly in front of a bank of television monitors. Each monitor corresponds to a different camera, with the name of its operator on a piece of masking tape above the screen, and Lipscomb shouts nonstop: "Mike! Zoom in on the chips. Dave, good work, now pan left. Chuck, let's get the audience. I need some suspense."

For an average-looking guy of average size, Lipscomb has a big personality. As always, he's dressed in a casual two-piece suit and open-collared shirt. He openly roots for players during big hands, favoring not one over the other but the more dramatic outcome over the more mundane. This approach has helped him create one of the highest rated shows in the history of cable. He never sits, stopping his shifting and gesturing only long enough to drink a soda. He even directs the audience, relaying instructions to staffers within the arena, who in turn cue the fans when to gasp, clap, or look shocked -- using expressions Lipscomb himself rehearsed with them before the final table began. The only thing he doesn't do is answer his cell phone, which rings constantly.

Back at the table, the cards are dealt, and Flack gets his six. He cannot contain a smile. His opponent shakes hands graciously but is clearly seething, having done everything right and lost because of very bad luck. Flack will go on to win the tournament -- a fact that will be widely noted in bars and chatrooms and around water coolers. Overnight, "I'm all in!" has become a catch phrase. By some estimates, more than 50 million Americans are into poker, and Lipscomb -- founder and president of the World Poker Tour -- has made it his mission to build the game's premier brand. In three short years he has taken poker from smoky backrooms to the Nasdaq and prime-time television, with ratings that regularly top network coverage of the NBA and PGA.

Now 43, Steve Lipscomb was a lawyer by trade and an entrepreneur at heart, which led to his first business, an attorney-referral service. But relatively late in life, he changed course. The change came after Lipscomb, who grew up in Knoxville, Tenn., and came from a long line of Baptist ministers, watched his deeply religious mother continue the family tradition by entering the seminary -- only to encounter sex discrimination that she felt stopped her rise through the hierarchy of the Southern Baptist Church. Believing the world needed to know, an angry Lipscomb decided to make a documentary film.

He sold his business, taught himself the basics of filmmaking, and dove in. The result, Battle for the Minds, documented the rise of fundamentalism within the church and went on to win critical acclaim and numerous awards. It was selected to be one of 10 films shown on PBS's Point of View, which brought Lipscomb to the attention of producer Norman Lear. Lipscomb began making shows with Lear, which is how he found himself filming an inside look at the World Series of Poker, the sport's marquee annual event -- one with which he was personally familiar. He had once entered a $100 satellite tournament just for fun and won a $10,000 seat at the main event. "I never expected to win," he says. "I called my wife, who was pregnant with our first child, and told her I'd had fun and didn't care if I didn't play the rest of the tournament, which would have taken several more days. Then I told her first prize was a million dollars and she said I could stay."

When Lipscomb first saw televised poker, it was being shown by ESPN: "Worse than watching paint dry," he says. He didn't win, but poker was now in his blood. And what he saw filming the World Series of Poker changed his life. He saw firsthand the culture, the characters, and the fans. He also concluded that ESPN, which aired the WSOP, was doing a terrible job. "Worse than watching paint dry," he recalls.

Lipscomb knew he could make poker more exciting to watch, but he also had a more ambitious vision: to create a league akin to the major professional sports, one that would lead to merchandising, foreign licensing, Internet competition, and spinoffs. As he now says, "I view us today as a Microsoft, not an IBM," meaning that he developed the show not as a product but as a platform.

First, he needed collaborators. He signed on two friends, Robyn Moder, who had overseen production on America's Most Wanted and Cops, and Audrey Kania, who had launched new divisions for Disney's Consumer Products Group. Selling licensed merchandise was a big part of his WPT plan, and Lipscomb knew that few were better at it than Mickey and company.

As he proceeded, Lipscomb followed the model of golf's PGA Tour. In golf, there are no teams or owners, just individual players who enter tournaments as they see fit and pay their own way. The prizes they compete for come mainly from sponsors, not the league itself. International events and players move in and out of the mix, and satellite tournaments have been developed in every corner of the globe.

"I created the only sports league in America where you can come out and play." But Lipscomb set out to offer something even the PGA couldn't match: "I created the only sports league in America where you can come out and play. If you could sell spots for people to suit up and play in the NBA finals for, say, $25,000, lots of people would do it. But you can't. Here, you can pay your money and compete with the best players in the world. And you can win." Anyone with $10,000 or so can buy into a World Poker Tour event, and hundreds of people have been doing just that. Lipscomb's WPT has the largest prize pool -- $70 million to $90 million, this year -- of any sports league in North America and regularly creates one or two millionaires a month.

Early on, few shared the vision. From his television production days, Lipscomb knew executives at many networks and cable stations, but when he called, they laughed. Given the limited success of televised poker to that point, no one else thought the airwaves needed even more poker. Its seedy backroom image made it difficult to interest television, potential employees, sponsors, and later, investment bankers. Some potential hires visiting the firm's temporary office in Los Angeles wondered if the enterprise was closer to porn than to mainstream entertainment.

But Lipscomb was convinced that, as with Battle for the Minds, he just needed to show people his product. He decided to raise enough money to produce the show before it had been sold to television. His first call was to Lyle Berman, founder of Lakes Entertainment, a company that consults with Native American tribes in developing casino gaming. An avid poker player, Berman was one of many subjects Lipscomb had met while making his poker documentary. Berman got it right away. The Lakes Entertainment board approved a $3.5 million investment in December 2001, and the World Poker Tour was in business the following February, just five months after Lipscomb started writing his business plan. He sold 70% of his concept to Lakes, kept 16.5% for himself, and divvied up the rest to top management and others. To get the WPT off the ground, he gave up a lot, but he put in no money himself. "I'm a sweat equity guy," he says.

Lipscomb, Kania, Moder, and an assistant moved into four offices on a former Warner Brothers production lot in West Hollywood. The historic building had been converted to offices and was chosen for its flexible floor plan, which allowed tenants to expand as needed. In three years, the WPT has hired 57 full-time employees and now occupies almost the entire building. It has working sound stages -- and, says Kania, "celebrities playing basketball just outside."

The first thing Lipscomb did after securing his venture capital was to hit the road and persuade high-profile casinos to get involved. The events that are now part of the WPT already existed, as discrete tournaments, waiting to be pulled together under an umbrella. In the world of big-time tournament poker, the majors have long been the $10,000-entry No Limit Texas Hold 'em tournaments. One such event was the World Poker Finals at Foxwoods in Connecticut.

When Lipscomb and Kania showed up at Foxwoods in March 2002 to make their pitch, they were shocked to find the casino executives, from the boss through middle management, in suits and ties, seated around a huge conference table. "All we had brought was a flip chart," Lipscomb recalls. The audience seemed unreceptive to the pitch, but less than 20 minutes after Lipscomb finished, his cell phone rang. It was the casino's poker-room manager, Kathy Raymond, calling to sign on. Lipscomb says Kania still kids him about how big his smile grew as he took the call. They had a deal, and now Lipscomb had the leverage to get other venues -- the Bellagio, Commerce -- on board. "I signed them up within a month," he says, "and by the beginning of April, we had a tour."

The first WPT event, the Five Diamond Poker Classic, was scheduled for the Bellagio in June 2002 and several others followed quickly. The events, from the prize pools to the administration to the tables, chips, and dealers, are run (and paid for) by the casinos -- all, that is, except for the final table, when the last six contestants are seated in the WPT's "arena." Thus, despite purses as high as $7 million each week, the events are put on with little expense for Lipscomb and the WPT.

But Lipscomb did have to assemble the crew, staff, and infrastructure to start filming. He hired Mike Sexton, a poker pro, and Vince Van Patten, the former child actor and professional tennis player, to be on-air hosts. Shana Hiatt, a former host of E! Entertainment's Wild On adventure show, would be the roving reporter. Things were so frantic leading up to the first Foxwoods event that Lipscomb designed the WPT arena -- a stage featuring the final table and announcers' booth, surrounded by swirling spotlights, cameras, and banners, all mounted on metal scaffolding -- on the back of a napkin. He and his crew created the set, developed the show's structure, and brainstormed the innovation that changed everything about televised poker: the now-famous "hole cams," miniature cameras that allow the television audience to see the players' concealed cards. In Hold 'em, each player gets two cards dealt face-down, and then all the players share five common cards dealt face-up. By showing the down -- or "hole" -- cards to the fans, Lipscomb lets the audience see who's bluffing, who has a monster hand, and how the pros play.

After months of filming, Lipscomb had a lot of promising raw footage but no one interested in airing the show. "It took me eight months to edit the footage for the first two-hour show," he says. "That was me sitting down with an editor, six days a week, for 15- to 18-hour days. About three months into it, people from Lakes Entertainment were calling, saying, 'When are we going to see something?' I thought maybe we just couldn't do it. All the ways we tried to put it together and put it on the screen had not worked. There was so much information to get across."

It took three and a half months of searching for a format before Lipscomb had his "aha!" moment: Imagining a sports bar, he suddenly realized that all popular televised sports can be enjoyed with the sound off. He decided to use graphics to make poker watchable. To do this, he created an onscreen format that displays icons of the cards, along with the players' names and amounts bet and constantly recomputed odds of winning. He finished editing the show, and his investors and partners loved it. But the WPT still had no TV deal.
 
How Poker Became Popular - Part 2

His worst-case scenario was to buy airtime himself, but he did not have enough capital; to raise it, he'd have to further dilute his ownership. So, finished episodes in hand, he kept trying to woo a network partner. From the beginning, Lipscomb had believed that to build a loyal audience, he needed a regularly scheduled time, like Monday Night Football.Among the many cable networks he eventually approached was, of all places, the Travel Channel. Somewhat to his surprise, the network bought an entire season, and as the slogan now declares, "Wednesday Is Poker Night on the Travel Channel."

The WPT attracts three million to five million viewers a week, often out-drawing the PGA and the NBA. The first show aired in March 2003. Remarkably, its audience doubled over the course of its two-hour time slot, a trend that continued for the first five episodes. In television ratings, a single Nielsen point represents 1% of the nation's television households, or between 1 million and 1.1 million viewers. As Lipscomb recalls, the first show started with a rating of .42 and by the end of its two hours had grown to .85, for an aggregate of .6 or .7. By the end of the first season, the show had grown to an aggregate of 1. Even more impressive, when the show went into reruns, the ratings actually went up. "A third better," says Lipscomb. "I don't know of anything that's ever done that." Plus, it was a two-hour show, which is a long time to maintain those ratings. Today the WPT attracts three million to five million viewers a week, often outdrawing PGA golf and NBA basketball -- both on major networks.
The networks eventually noticed what Lipscomb was creating. On Super Bowl Sunday in January 2004, NBC, in cooperation with the Travel Channel, gave the WPT a network audience opposite the much-hyped pregame show -- and more than five million people tuned in.

Success, of course, brings new problems. The WPT was a hit, and it quickly spawned competitors, including Celebrity Poker Showdown on Bravo, Poker Superstars Invitational Tournament on Fox Sports, Poker Royale on Game Show Network, Hollywood Card Night in the works at E! Entertainment Television, and revamped coverage of the World Series of Poker on ESPN.

Most unsettling to the WPT crew is that the other shows use visual formats similar to the one Lipscomb developed. His is currently patent pending. "If the greatest form of flattery is imitation," says Lipscomb, "then we have been overflattered." Still, he accepts the situation, and his experience as a lawyer has left him inclined to consider legal action only as a last resort. "When a television show creates a new phenomenon," says Lipscomb, "others will imitate it, like reality TV. Everything from our hole-card cam to our graphics has been copied. But we are the Survivor of this genre.

"The real question is, Do we have an advantage over the competitors that are coming after us? Anyone who wants to take on the WPT has to take on not just the WPT and the Travel Channel, but also the resources of the Bellagio, Foxwoods, Borgata, Commerce, and the Bicycle Casino. We make the best television. The future is for us to continue to make the WPT events into the Wimbledons and the U.S. Opens of poker."

Lipscomb's plan has always been to do more than build a hit show. "The New York Times said that 50 million people were playing poker on a regular basis, and no one had branded it," he says. "This became our mission."

The next phase was merchandising, starting with chips, tables, and playing cards, what Lipscomb calls "the lowest-hanging fruit." For months prior to this past Christmas, U.S. Playing Cards was unable to make its fancy WPT chip sets fast enough to meet demand. "We are just getting started," says Kania. "We'll have 40 to 50 licensees" -- boxed DVD sets, clothing, more -- "by the end of 2005." The company just signed a multivolume book deal with HarperCollins; Mike Sexton, the show's co-host and expert commentator, wrote the first volume, released in March. Also on the way is a wireless platform that lets you play WPT poker on your cell phone. Lakes Entertainment has developed a casino table game version of WPT All-In Hold 'em Poker, to be rolled out alongside roulette and blackjack tables nationwide. Casinos wishing to deploy the game will pay fees to Lakes and Lakes will pay a fee to the WPT. The WPT brand has even been extended to scratch-off state lottery tickets in seven states.

And yet, the WPT's greatest opportunity may lie on the Internet. Internet poker has been red-hot -- even though running a U.S.-based gambling site is illegal. One leading site, PartyPoker.com, gets more than 100,000 players a day. In December, Lipscomb finalized a deal with WagerWorks to create a site that will be operated abroad and can be accessed only from outside the U.S. WPTonline.com, which will allow live poker play from legal markets, is expected to launch by summer. "It is my expectation that this will be bigger, financially, than anything else they have done," says Dennis Nielsen, an analyst for Minneapolis-based Feltl and Co., the investment banking firm that took WPT public last year.

It will also continue the global expansion. A dramatic side effect of Lipscomb's conceiving the show as if the volume were off is that people who don't speak English can follow it. By the end of 2004, the WPT had foreign distribution deals in 57 countries. "You do not even have to understand poker to enjoy it," says co-host Mike Sexton. "When someone pushes all his chips into the pot, says 'All in,' and stands up, everyone understands. That's the magic and the drama. It's the ultimate in reality TV: real people playing real poker for real money."

In the second season's "Party Poker Million" episode, for example, construction worker Chris Hinchcliffe, who qualified for the $10,000 entry by winning an online tournament with a $35 entry fee, came to the final table as the Cinderella story. He held an immense chip lead, nearly three times as much as the second-place player, despite facing four of the world's top pros. He stood to take home a cool million in his first big tournament. Instead, he made mistake after mistake -- playing bad hands too aggressively -- but still finished a respectable third. "The whole key to the poker craze," says Lipscomb, "is that you are watching ordinary people in extraordinary situations. Not only are you seeing a construction worker playing poker for a million dollars, but he's doing it against the very best. It's David versus Goliath." Sometimes, of course, Goliath wins.

Originally, Lipscomb's dream was to take the company public in five years. But the opportunity came faster than expected.

When Lipscomb and Kania went out on a road show in July 2004, visiting 13 cities in less than two weeks to sell investment bankers on the initial public offering, they met considerable skepticism. At the time, the WPT had just turned profitable, but there was still concern about poker's lowbrow image. In response, Lipscomb talked about their efforts to build and brand a sports league. "If you had been able to invest in the NFL when it started," says Kania, "you'd want in. We have transformed poker into a sports model that transcends the events themselves or the show. We have monetized the brand."

Lipscomb and Kania also realized that they could demonstrate the WPT's licensing potential by passing around a product -- a case of heavy clay casino-grade poker chips. "They all wanted to buy it," says Kania. "The analysts came with skepticism and walked away enthusiastic. The transformations in those rooms were amazing."

Initially, Lipscomb hoped the offering would debut at $6 or $7 a share, but last August it went out at $8, raising $32 million. Since then, the shares, still somewhat thinly traded, have been running as high as $20. The company's market capitalization is about $300 million -- all built on the original $3.5 million investment less than three years back.

The successful IPO has brought new challenges, including another layer of management infrastructure and regulatory costs that contribute nothing to the bottom line. But perhaps the biggest change has been in Lipscomb himself. He's been forced to take off the headset, step back from the control room, and turn over his directorial duties to someone else. He no longer has time to attend multiday tournaments every week. He will still edit the tape, but the frenetic camera instructions will be barked by someone else.

Instead, Lipscomb is busy investing the IPO money. He just launched a second league, the Professional Poker Tour, once again borrowing a page from the PGA playbook. The Professional Poker Tour will showcase the colorful full-time players who made the WPT so popular but are now getting lost in the sea of upstart amateurs making it to the final tables. Lipscomb is giving the true professionals a place to play with his new tour, which players must qualify for by winning events or placing high enough on the WPT's annual money list.

The first PPT tournament was filmed at Foxwoods last September, the day after a WPT event. Because the players and crew were already there, the PPT's overhead, time, and production costs were minimal. Now that the national poker obsession is official, Lipscomb thinks the PPT may get a bigger deal than the WPT has with the Travel Channel, possibly on a major network. "We have had several good offers," says Lipscomb.

Meanwhile, poker keeps exploding. Hollywood celebrities -- Ben Affleck, Toby Maguire -- have become serious players. Several movies are in development. Not long ago, casino poker rooms were closing all across the country. "Cut to today," says Lipscomb, "and every casino is scrambling to add rooms."

On a recent Friday night at Foxwoods, the wait to play Hold 'em was over two hours; the line just to sign up for the waiting list stretched the length of the huge room. The nation's largest casino-based poker room, it has been enlarged repeatedly and still cannot satisfy demand. "The hunger is insatiable," says Kathy Raymond, the Foxwoods poker room manager. "Since April 2003 we have seen a constant increase in average hours played and number of tables in use, and it just won't stop. The World Poker Tour has taken an American tradition and merged it with the American Dream, and there is no stopping it."

Midway through the WPT's third season, individual tournament prize pools surpassed the $10 million mark. More to the point, the WPT recently released financial results that showed fourth-quarter revenue had leapt from $379,000 in 2003 to $5.7 million in 2004. Revenue was $17.6 million for the year, and the company turned a profit of $752,000.

Just days before the Academy Awards, many of L.A.'s brightest stars turned out for a much different kind of celebration, the World Poker Tour Celebrity Invitational at the Commerce Casino. The normally cheery Lipscomb was even more bubbly than usual as he worked the room, exchanging pleasantries with Lou Diamond Philips, James Woods, Ed Asner, Mimi Rogers, Macaulay Culkin, Jennifer Tilly, Skeet Ulrich, Tanya Roberts, Gabe Kaplan, Ray Romano, Norm Macdonald, and Jon Favreau. As the stars walked down a red carpet and waiters hustled about with champagne, it was clear that the seedy backroom image of the game had been largely dispelled.

It would appear Steve Lipscomb has found a way to turn gambling into a sure thing.
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Thanks for that article,Colin. I'm playing poker as I type this. We started the tournament with 265 players and with less than 80 remaining, I'm in 2nd place.
Doug
( I'll go out on the bubble as usual )
 
Jim, I agree with most of what you said about the public view of the complexity of the game versus their casual stereotyping of it.

I submit however that if curling, spelling bees, FISHING, and poker can make it to television and have viewership enough to sell advertising then pool certainly can as well. Poker never became interesting until two things happened for me, one the hole cards were shown and two the players began to be characterized. Once I saw that I became interested in following the game and the circuit a little bit, at least to the point of watching poker regularly for a while. As a result I then became interested enough to dabble at PartyPoker for a bit. So in that sense the WPT made a fan and a customer out of me. I learned that my misconception of poker as being 90% luck was very far off base. The poker boom can be directly attributed to the WPT and the subsequent surge in participants, prize money, and promotion of the World Series of Poker, which has run for over 20 years in relative obscurity prior to the onset of the World Poker Tour.

I take the view that given the right stage, that pool can indeed be something that a fan base can appreciate the skill it takes to play at a level where the shots are easy and so also to come to understand the game enough to see the tough shots as well.

I am not sure how this can be accomplished though. You are right, people instinctively understand the difficulty in other sports without having to be "taught" about the game and led by the hand. If Snooker however can make it on television in this day and age then so can pool. England and Europe is where most of the reality show concepts were born and bred. So they have just as much competition for viewers as we do in both sporting events and other television content.

If there is one thing I have found to be true, it is that you can sell ANYTHING with the right pitch and the right packaging. Friends was on the verge of being canceled until the network moved it to a different time slot. Different placement and boom, the rest is history. That story is common. The World Poker Tour concept was pitched for several years before the Travel Channel decided to run it. They didn't finance it, they just agreed to give it airtime and promotion.

Pool in and of itself is a product that has a rich history to draw on. The fact that it is such a part of our collective consciousness is it's strength and it's weakness. Pool is like the PlayDough of sports. For some reason promoters have felt the need to continually change the game to suit their fanciful ideas of what would make good tv. Ball Busters comes to mind, 7-ball, Billards/NFL stars championship and the like.

Groceries.com - an perfect example of a business with no market. And I agree that capital isn't the only thing needed. The best models break when they are undercapitalized however. In the case of the IPT, could it have worked had it been capitalized as claimed? Or was is really not able to sustain a fruit juice outlet even with 15 million to burn?
 
Like I said - packaging. Somebody get in touch with Steve Lipscomb and tell him there's another sport with characters, heart, and history that's begging to be taken mainstream.

Of course there's that whole "skill" thing to overcome. :-)

Ironman, I am sorry. I didn't mean to sound chastising. I just didn't want this thread to turn into a rehash of what we all know about the IPT foibles to date.
 
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