One handed technique...

[straightline]

I use a lame, balance point, limp wrist flick. It's only good for compact shots or longer ones that don't require anything. Interestingly, this method has to be in the air as the rail will skew the cue line.
Ronnie Allen supposedly had a bounce and thrust stroke.
Cole Dickson supposedly had an overhand dart stroke that could also draw from across the table.
There's also the full grip/manhandle stroke that's pretty common.

Those proficient at this, how'd you get there?

 

[maha]

for jacked up, keeping the grip pressure consistent with most of your shots as you dont have the bridge hand to hold the front of the cue on line.

for darts your elbow more forward to keep the stick moving straighter

 

[sam74]

25 or 30 years ago or so I had recently turned 21 and visited the pub up the street to play pool regularly.

I had Byrnes volume 1 & 2 standard pool videos. Playing with a much older gentleman there we decided to swap my videos for some he had to expand our knowledge possibly.

One of his videos was trick shots and pretty much useless but the other had some interesting stuff. It was much more like a home video with bad lighting but the guy had some stuff I'd never seen or heard of before.

One was his one handed shot technique for when there was no bridge available. Basically holding the cue like a javelin above the shoulder but not a baseball bat grip. Step into shot like normal, line up the shot visually and with the cue in the air lined up start bringing the tip straight down with your visual alignment and dart stroke it once the tip gets to the ball.

I've used it for the no bridge or too lazy to get the bridge type situation with some success on short shots but never really thought about trying every shot with it. I'd imagine with some practice one could get good at it.

I've never seen anyone play one handed jacked up. For those that have is this a similar description of how that is played? I could see this method causing some table damage if one were not extemely careful.

 

[straightline]

25 or 30 years ago or so I had recently turned 21 and visited the pub up the street to play pool regularly.

I had Byrnes volume 1 & 2 standard pool videos. Playing with a much older gentleman there we decided to swap my videos for some he had to expand our knowledge possibly.

One of his videos was trick shots and pretty much useless but the other had some interesting stuff. It was much more like a home video with bad lighting but the guy had some stuff I'd never seen or heard of before.

One was his one handed shot technique for when there was no bridge available. Basically holding the cue like a javelin above the shoulder but not a baseball bat grip. Step into shot like normal, line up the shot visually and with the cue in the air lined up start bringing the tip straight down with your visual alignment and dart stroke it once the tip gets to the ball.

I've used it for the no bridge or too lazy to get the bridge type situation with some success on short shots but never really thought about trying every shot with it. I'd imagine with some practice one could get good at it.

I've never seen anyone play one handed jacked up. For those that have is this a similar description of how that is played? I could see this method causing some table damage if one were not extemely careful.

Jacked up is simply a normal under hand without the bridge. I suppose the dart stroke is still free hand and in principle the same as jacked up. I call it "in the air" for clarity.

 

[gregcantrall]

Those proficient at this, how'd you get there?

Here's Max Eberly teaching one handed.

Max mentions Neal Morrison and provides a link.
In my morning fitness program one handed kicks is my first exercise. I think it makes sure I have a good base or foundation. I like to use a one rail kick, as the action off the rail tells if the strike to whitey was off center.

 

[straightline]

Here's Max Eberly teaching one handed.

Max mentions Neal Morrison and provides a link.
In my morning fitness program one handed kicks is my first exercise. I think it makes sure I have a good base or foundation. I like to use a one rail kick, as the action off the rail tells if the strike to whitey was off center.

One handed kicks and safes are well worth the bother.; the better part of one handed one hole.

 

[gregcantrall]

And oh yeah do it with both hands. Think of it as a fitness exercise. At first the results can be quite amusing with the "other" hand. The balance and coordination will come.

 

[Black-Balled]

I dunno ..max was playing $100 1p and his opponent scratched on the break and Max took ball in hand and ran 8-out. But his bih was not in the kitchen.

You think Max knows what he's doing on a pool table?

 

[sam74]

Jacked up is simply a normal under hand without the bridge. I suppose the dart stroke is still free hand and in principle the same as jacked up. I call it "in the air" for clarity.

Thanks for the clarification. I've been beaten playing two handed against a jacked up opponent by your definition but don’t recall seeing anyone play jacked up in the air before other than that video and my attempts to reproduce the shot.

 

[gregcantrall]

I call my program Kicks Like A Mule and describe it (perhaps add nausia) in my Practice Practice Practice and Practice What I Preach threads. It's progression from one rail to two and then three rails includes precision speed required.
Just last night in league play the Kicks practices rewarded me with not only a made hit but a pocketed ball after my opponent laid a safety that he was proud of. So yeah, Practice Practice. Shrug .

 

[WobblyStroke]

Larry Nevel was a boss one handed jacked up. Here's a vid of him pullin off some crowd pleasers. Around the 2:30 mark he hits a few full table draws one handed.

His technique is interesting. Wish there was footage of him shooting some regular shots this way as he was very proficient one handed jacked up from what I've heard. But the big power draws give us a glimpse of his approach.

 

[maha]

25 or 30 years ago or so I had recently turned 21 and visited the pub up the street to play pool regularly.

I had Byrnes volume 1 & 2 standard pool videos. Playing with a much older gentleman there we decided to swap my videos for some he had to expand our knowledge possibly.

One of his videos was trick shots and pretty much useless but the other had some interesting stuff. It was much more like a home video with bad lighting but the guy had some stuff I'd never seen or heard of before.

One was his one handed shot technique for when there was no bridge available. Basically holding the cue like a javelin above the shoulder but not a baseball bat grip. Step into shot like normal, line up the shot visually and with the cue in the air lined up start bringing the tip straight down with your visual alignment and dart stroke it once the tip gets to the ball.

I've used it for the no bridge or too lazy to get the bridge type situation with some success on short shots but never really thought about trying every shot with it. I'd imagine with some practice one could get good at it.

I've never seen anyone play one handed jacked up. For those that have is this a similar description of how that is played? I could see this method causing some table damage if one were not extemely careful.

no not the right way but any way if practiced enough will give okay or average results.

 

[gregcantrall]

no not the right way

If you are treetopped by an adjacent object ball it's the way. So worth practicing if you intend to match up in a one handed game.

 

[book collector]

If you are a "creative" player, you can put a steel rod in the butt at the balance point, about 4 inches on either side, that way you don't need to move the cue as much.
Or you can hold a roll of dimes in your hand with the cue. The better one handed players I watched, seemed to have the tip high in their stance , then as they brought the cue down , they allowed the tip to dip and went forward timing the shot. It was very effective.
Parica was really good one handed.

 

[straightline]

Thanks for the clarification. I've been beaten playing two handed against a jacked up opponent by your definition but don’t recall seeing anyone play jacked up in the air before other than that video and my attempts to reproduce the shot.

Bunch of stuff on you tube including some amazing trick stuff. To me the value is having faith in the shot line. 'Course the stick has to cooperate.

 

[gregcantrall]

Through my Samsung phone I get 400 TV channels,. One is called Billiard TV and just had a young man shooting incredible one handed exhibition shots. He does it both ways and both are incredible. One trick has him shooting javelin with both hands at the same time. Standing at the side pocket and a cue in each hand perpendicular to the table striking straight down on the cueballs. Both balls mirror the other and execute the shots perfectly. Wish I knew his name and if any of his shots can be found on youtube.

 

[3kushn]

Larry Nevel was a boss one handed jacked up. Here's a vid of him pullin off some crowd pleasers. Around the 2:30 mark he hits a few full table draws one handed.

His technique is interesting. Wish there was footage of him shooting some regular shots this way as he was very proficient one handed jacked up from what I've heard. But the big power draws give us a glimpse of his approach.

Sounds like Jamison Neu chuckling.

No?

 

[gregcantrall]

I found it! Venom of course.

 

[maha]

he is amazing of course. but he has edited tapes so you never know how many tries it took.

also the balls and table are siliconed or whatever to make them do what he wants.

 

[sam74]

Back in the past there was a guy who always played one handed jacked up but primarily because he had lost most of his other arm. He would sometimes use his partial arm as a body prop on long shots. He enjoyed pool or the competition enough to throw his $5 in on the local bar room tournaments at times.

If one plays one handed and uses the rail for support is that still considered jacked up?