One Pocket Situation Question

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LSU1018

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If there are 2 balls on the spot after your opponent just scratched, what shot do you normally take needing one ball? Do you cross bank the back ball or do try to skim the balls towards your side and try to leave cue back on back rail?

Also, if you need both balls from the same situation, what do you normally do?
 
LSU1018 said:
If there are 2 balls on the spot after your opponent just scratched, what shot do you normally take needing one ball? Do you cross bank the back ball or do try to skim the balls towards your side and try to leave cue back on back rail?

Also, if you need both balls from the same situation, what do you normally do?
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I tend to just cross off the first ball trying to get the cue ball on the top rail. The 2nd ball should go one rail and come straight back down and bump the lead ball a little to your side. goal is to not leave a free one railer.

I used to just hit the head ball with draw and try to make them both in my hole but I've lost a lot of games on that shot so now I just play conservative there.
 
If I need 1 ball, I use half-ball hit leaving a ball on side rail, the other one bounces to my side and about 6 inches from spot. The cue ball is on the end rail.

If I need 2, assuming there are no balls left but these 2, I would use extreme draw and try to make head ball in my pocket, this also sends the back ball 2 rails and toward my pocket.
 
tucson9ball said:
If I need 1 ball, I use half-ball hit leaving a ball on side rail, the other one bounces to my side and about 6 inches from spot. The cue ball is on the end rail.

If I need 2, assuming there are no balls left but these 2, I would use extreme draw and try to make head ball in my pocket, this also sends the back ball 2 rails and toward my pocket.
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i like the second shot here, trying to pocket the 1st spotted ball and also trying to draw the white ball 1 rail towards the bottom cushion. if you dont make it youre pretty much always going to sell out cross-bank, so trying to get the white all the way down table is important
 
the pocket end is 'down table'
the break from end is 'up-table'

Don't you see what you are doing to poor littl Billy with your disregard for convention!?
 
LSU1018 said:
If there are 2 balls on the spot after your opponent just scratched, what shot do you normally take needing one ball? Do you cross bank the back ball or do try to skim the balls towards your side and try to leave cue back on back rail?

Also, if you need both balls from the same situation, what do you normally do?
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From what I've seen lately, I feel the thinking on this has changed a bit over the years. Old school would be to roll the CB off the ball on the spot and leave the CB on the end rail with both balls on your side. Done properly it's tough for your opponent not to give up a shot.

But nowadays, with the more aggressive or even hyper-aggressive styles, it seems that forcing the ball on the spot towards your hole, while the back ball two-rails to your side and the CB draws back to the kitchen, seems to be the shot of choice, needing one or two. Another favorite is going all out for the the two-railer on the back ball, while moving the ball on the spot to your side, and three-railing the CB around the table back into the kitchen. I first saw Cliff shoot it on an Acc-Stats tape, practiced it, and actually made it against Tom Wirth, strong player from DC, at the US Open many years ago :-)

Lou Figueroa
 
lfigueroa said:
From what I've seen lately, I feel the thinking on this has changed a bit over the years. Old school would be to roll the CB off the ball on the spot and leave the CB on the end rail with both balls on your side. Done properly it's tough for your opponent not to give up a shot.

But nowadays, with the more aggressive or even hyper-aggressive styles, it seems that forcing the ball on the spot towards your hole, while the back ball two-rails to your side and the CB draws back to the kitchen, seems to be the shot of choice, needing one or two. Another favorite is going all out for the the two-railer on the back ball, while moving the ball on the spot to your side, and three-railing the CB around the table back into the kitchen. I first saw Cliff shoot it on an Acc-Stats tape, practiced it, and actually made it against Tom Wirth, strong player from DC, at the US Open many years ago :-)

Lou Figueroa
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I agree Lou, old school left the CB on end rail. I force the head ball and draw back to the kitchen. Done properly you don't give up a shot. My percentage is quite high on a make or not selling out. The only problem is if you draw back and scratch. If a ball is in or blocking the upper pocket its a green light for sure. I have run the C/B around three rails but I only do that if I'm not comfortable with my draw stroke or play it the old school way. No side english on the draw shot, its not needed.

Rod
 
Make the head ball is the shot--very rare to scratch on that also--hit it really good and the possibility of the back ball going also or having a great shot to make the finish
 
I don't shoot at either ball,I put them both on my side and leave the CB near the foot? rail.I have had people shoot on me there and am 2 and 1 in that situation.
 
Every time I've played this shot, my opponent needs two 'cause we were
both in the 1-hole and he followed the ball in that I hung in my pocket.

I ALWAYS play the front ball in, with draw. I either make it or get it close
enough to my hole that he can't play a 'white flag' bank on the other ball.

On some soft rubbered GC's, I've made both balls.

I always hope my opponent plays the conservative shot.
 
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