Willowbrook Wolfy
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And That’s why I never win at this game.
One pocket. What’s the play?
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A friend calls it writing checks your talent can't cash.
How long have you been playing it?
I'll tell you why I didn't like your shot. I went back to look at it again to make sure but here goes. I know me so I didn't like that shot on account of that shot needs absolute stop, no draw. If the ball drew a 1/4 ball it appears to have left a cross bank on the 5 which is a ball near his hole but its only good if he can shoot it with enough inside to get the cue ball up behind the 6. I just didn't like the complication which if I weren't sitting at the house and hitting balls more I'd take your shot but the way the balls appeared it looked like the cue ball needed to roll forward just a bit and if you did that then there was a risk you'd get a penalty by not getting the rail due to other balls in the way.
My couch has my game off but if you can get behind that one I would agree. Since I'm a lightweight right now I chose the safer option.
Damn I miss one pocket.
You and me both, buddy.
Willowbrook Wolfy
Going pro
I don’t have a crap ton of hours in. I used to always play with an older guy who would come in to the hall I was working at. Let’s just say he robbed me blind every time. I still don’t know who the guy was, but he must’ve been pretty good for the owner and house guy to keep asking me why the hell I was even playing him to start…..
So let’s just say regardless of the cash, I did learn a lot of strategy in a short time. Now I’m trying to improve on it. Gotta “get on my horse”. Lol
Find someone you can beat for a little while. It will irritate the hell out of you when you let him score a ball because you sold the farm. Its not about losing money. If pride don't motivate you the money never will.
Playing for some small stakes is important from time to time but I know a guy that thinks he has to play a hundred or two a game to get serious but he's a dick to play with when he loses because he's no better a player for the cash, he's trying to seem like Mr. Big Man with the bet. I don't have time for that mess. When it bothers you to give your opponent a shot is when you're getting to your top speed for where you are in your game. Constantly experimenting with shots during one pocket is something you have to get out of your system but there's no reason you have lighten your wallet over it because you think you need to pay your dues. I can find other ways of irritating myself to death because I don't know what to do yet. Time will fix it. No sense being broke too.
I learned to play one pocket by getting robbed at $10 a game from a much better player who was giving me 9-7.
I did win a game or two but always came out on the short end $20 or $30 a session.
I play pretty good but knew nothing about one pocket at that time.
So a couple $100 later I finally learned at least the basics.
And a lot of time watching better one pocket players and remembering their moves at certain critical times in the game such as we are talking about now.
Got to pay your dues.
phreaticus
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I’m a noob 1p player & tend to play too aggressively. But there are 15 balls on the table with many up table already, looks to me like both players sort of suck. From Bob’s pics, it looks like the 5 kisses off the 3 to our hole, or gets close. Simply stopping the CB is good enough but ideally tuck it just behind the 13. Make sure to use enough speed so a miss leaves the 5 on the short rail side of our hole, not the long side, so we don’t leave a cross table bank for the opponent.
Controlled Aggression!
Controlled Aggression!
Willowbrook Wolfy
Going pro
Thanks for the words of wisdom guys. Here’s what I’m saying. I see your point Robin. But I’m going to stick with Measureman on this one. If I’m playing someone not up to speed with me, I’m going to shoot BigFish’s 5 2 rails or maybe even spread the pile some. It’s really enjoyable winning, but when you play someone better and you are good to start with, your learning curve seems much faster. At least it does for me.
As an example you are in a game with friends or someone who can’t really beat you, how many times have you gone 2-3rails instead of using a 2” cb movement shot? I do it all the time.
As an example you are in a game with friends or someone who can’t really beat you, how many times have you gone 2-3rails instead of using a 2” cb movement shot? I do it all the time.
Willowbrook Wolfy
Going pro
Haha. Not the best here.
If you read the play by play post. I missed one cross corner bank. So the games been played behind the stack since then. That’s why the balls on the right aren’t down farther. Didn’t want to sell them out. Right side even had to take a table scratch to keep the offensive. It’s actually -1 to 0 right now.
My story as well, I got 10-6 $10/rack was triple tough game for me. Learned a ton.
Willowbrook Wolfy
Going pro
This has usually been my approach. If you aren’t playing someone and having to face the consequences for taking certain shots, it takes a lot longer to improve your game. Then Robin when you are good enough the money you put in seems to come back to you…….
The kicker to this is if you are playing the better player at peak times. No one wants to play you even anymore after. They always want a spot even when you lose.
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Back around the early 60's when I was 15-16 years old I played an older man called Max the Axe, nice guy ,bad nick name.
He would play me 60 to 50 straight pool and rob me for $3.00 a game.
Funny part is he used to go to the Main Tavern on main street in Asbury Park N.J. every night and drink 15 cent tap beer.
Many years later he thanked me for buying his beer for a couple years.
But I learned a lot about 14.1 from Max.
Side note he would spend all summer at a resort in the Catskills mountains as a tennis instructor.
I wonder who bought his beer there?
Probably robbed a guest playing tennis.
Good old Max,WWII veteran of the North Africa campaign.
phreaticus
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I only skim read most stuff around here, but I wasn’t bagging on you, I was simply answering the question as to what I would do based on the ball layout and low score situation.Haha. Not the best here.
You better go from the original picture rather than my VP diagram because I was not real careful in the rack area and a half inch can make all the difference for shots like that.
Willowbrook Wolfy
Going pro
I should be bagged on for missing the easy cross corner….
Willowbrook Wolfy
Going pro
I think If I was a betting man I’d play this game from here with anyone playing the 4 bank. If that 4 does go I think a great player is going to win it on this turn. But if misses there are a lot of available shots. I see best case scenario 4 goes guy on right wins. Worst case 4 hangs in the pocket. I think that’s going to be trouble on next left shot. If they shoot an off the rail sinkage of the 4 by one of 2 or 3 balls on the right side.
Did you know “country” in ny? Tall black guy-big money.
Which shots are those? From where I think I will leave the cue ball when banking the 4, you can't see the 6 -- it is blocked by the 11. Maybe you can bank the 11, but it looks to me like you have to cut it to the left meaning you are going into the stack or staying on the wrong side of the stack.