Opinions on this cue?

Yes,I've had ivory on a few cues before. I ca take a picture of the bumper tomorrow for you. Thanks
One way to tell if thee butt plate is ivory is to shine a blacklight on it. Ivory will show up white, whereas synthetic materials will have a blue or purple hue. You can buy a blacklight flashlight at a hardware store for around $10.

That said, in my opinion ivory is not a good material for a butt plate.
 
Looks like someone copied the RB bushka design but changed the rings above and below the wrap to have MOP dots instead of ivory checks. Still, very nice cue.
 
What threads are used in the joint? I think Richard Black joints and the licensed Balabushka production were different.
 
Looks like someone copied the RB bushka design but changed the rings above and below the wrap to have MOP dots instead of ivory checks. Still, very nice cue.
Possibly, but more likely someone added mother of pearl dots around the buttsleeve diamonds on the Adam GB 21 to make it look like Richard's. If so, poor attempt. If refinished, that would also explain the missing factory signature on the forearm.
 
Possibly, but more likely someone added mother of pearl dots around the buttsleeve diamonds on the Adam GB 21 to make it look like Richard's. If so, poor attempt. If refinished, that would also explain the missing factory signature on the forearm.
ok i see that now although where is the closeup pic of the buttsleeve and what makes you think it was a poor attempt?
 
Both 5/16 X 14.
I owned one of the signature Balabushkas that I bought within a year of introduction. I also own a Richard Black. I also own an original Balabushka made in 1972. The joint on the Black and the real Balabushka are interchangeable. The signature Balabushka had a different thread.

But what I meant to ask is what are the threads on the cue in the original post.
 
Here are both pics, rotated to match perimeter chips/lines. Different photo lighting, but that's clearly the same cue as the one on reddit:

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ok i see that now although where is the closeup pic of the buttsleeve and what makes you think it was a poor attempt?
No closeup pic needed, the first post of the thread shows the buttsleeve is not Richard's. If the cue was changed to make it look like Richard's, is was a poor attempt, because everything is different on Richards. Trim rings, veneer thickness, location of the trim rings on the buttsleeve, butt plate and bumper. All different. If on the other hand, someone was just wanting to make the cue look fancier, that's another thing.
 
I owned one of the signature Balabushkas that I bought within a year of introduction. I also own a Richard Black. I also own an original Balabushka made in 1972. The joint on the Black and the real Balabushka are interchangeable. The signature Balabushka had a different thread.

But what I meant to ask is what are the threads on the cue in the original post.
You should be able to put the cues next to each other to see if the threads look similar. Two possibilities. One, you got a signature Balabushka that for some reason had a different pin. They've always been advertised as 5/16 X 14. Two, there is variation in sizes in 14 thread pins. My Richard Black has a slightly larger 14 thread pin than several Scruggs cues I have. Bill Stroud's 14 thread pin had a very tight fit, compared to most. I understand the Schon 14 thread in is unique as well. Also, there can be variations in the brass inserts the pin screws into. I think that's one reason aftermarket shafts such as Predator have some give in the brass insert, to be able to accommodate most if not all 14 thread pins.

Original post says 5/16 X 14 thread, as well as the advertisement for the Adam cue on page 2.

All the best,
WW
 
Originally, yes. When the Adam Balabushka replica series came out, I believe something like 2000 or so, the joint rings were thicker. As you can see in the website post of the current series posted by Deadstick, the rings are thinner now. The ones on this cue are very thin. If an Adam cue, probably a later one. Another possibility is other Asian unmarked cue. There are thousands of Asian cues made these days to look like some older designs. Just another possibility, especially since there is no typical signature on this one.
What cues are you referring to as the “Adam Balabushka replica series” that came out ~2000?

The George Balabushka cue Deadstick linked is not an Adam.
 
What cues are you referring to as the “Adam Balabushka replica series” that came out ~2000?

The George Balabushka cue Deadstick linked is not an Adam.
It was Adam's first attempt at a Balabushka replica series. I could be off on the date, but I think give or take, about 2000. At that point, Dick Helmsetter was probably still affiliated with the company. They started with five or six models. Thicker trim ring in the joint collars, compared to the Balabushka series today. You're correct, the current doesn't say Adam, but I have to think it's a reincarnation of the same company, probably moved from Japan to somewhere else. After all, there is nobody named Balabushka making cues now.

All the best,
WW
 
I owned one of the signature Balabushkas that I bought within a year of introduction. I also own a Richard Black. I also own an original Balabushka made in 1972. The joint on the Black and the real Balabushka are interchangeable. The signature Balabushka had a different thread.

But what I meant to ask is what are the threads on the cue in the original post.
My Adam Balabushka Signature cue has a full-size 5/16-14 thread. My original Balabushka has smaller thread diameters, but still considered a 5/16-14.
 
It was Adam's first attempt at a Balabushka replica series. I could be off on the date, but I think give or take, about 2000. At that point, Dick Helmsetter was probably still affiliated with the company. They started with five or six models. Thicker trim ring in the joint collars, compared to the Adam/Balabushka series today.

All the best,
WW
Ok. The Adam Balabushka line started in 1987, built in Adam Japan main OEM in Saitama. They started outsourcing to Universal in China around 10 years later. So that may or may not be the ~2000 marker you’re thinking. They were still considered “made in Japan,” as they would be “finished” in Japan. That could have meant adding a tip. Silly import rules.

The current Balabushka signature cues are produced for the Balabushka Cue Company in Arizona (Peggy Mallen). Peggy and her late husband have had them made in Taiwan since they bought the rights around 2011. They do indeed have thinner rings.
 
Ok. The Adam Balabushka line started in 1987, built in Adam Japan main OEM in Saitama. They started outsourcing to Universal in China around 10 years later. So that may or may not be the ~2000 marker you’re thinking. They were still considered “made in Japan,” as they would be “finished” in Japan. That could have meant adding a tip. Silly import rules.

The current Balabushka signature cues are produced for the Balabushka Cue Company in Arizona (Peggy Mallen). Peggy and her late husband have had them made in Taiwan since they bought the rights around 2011. They do indeed have thinner rings.
Yes, started in Japan, thicker joint trim rings, moved to another country. I wonder if the license was sold to the current company? Not sure.

But, Asian import cues, bottom line.
 
Yes, started in Japan, thicker joint trim rings, moved to another country. I wonder if the license was sold to the current company? Not sure.

But, Asian import cues, bottom line.
The Balabushka Cue Company own the license for the Balabushka cue name as well as Adam USA and Hemstetter. The Mallens purchased the rights from them owner Patty Vorillas (sp) who was David Forman’s right hand woman at Adam USA.
 
It looks 100% ADAM to me. Nice cue. A lot of people don't know that Miki of Mezz fame pretty much ran the shop that Helmstetter oversaw. They could/did make some very nice cues like this one.
This isn’t quite right. Miki ran his shop. But the Saitama shop was the main Adam Japan. Miki unfortunately got roped into a contract such that any cue he sold had to be sold as an Adam cue. So Miki Cues was Adam Cues, but Adam Cues weren’t all Miki Cues. More appropriately, Miki was a sub-contractor for Adam Japan. Adam Japan themselves built many many of the cues.
 
The Balabushka Cue Company own the license for the Balabushka cue name as well as Adam USA and Hemstetter. The Mallens purchased the rights from them owner Patty Vorillas (sp) who was David Forman’s right hand woman at Adam USA.
That makes sense. It started as just Dick Helmstetter, then became Adam as well as a bunch of others, including Julio Stambolini, now it's the Balabushka Cue Company. Other than Dick Helmstetter actually starting in Washington DC, it quickly moved to Asia, and is still there.
 
That makes sense. It started as just Dick Helmstetter, then became Adam as well as a bunch of others, including Julio Stambolini, now it's the Balabushka Cue Company. Other than Dick Helmstetter actually starting in Washington DC, it quickly moved to Asia, and is still there.
The Balabushka Cue Company have nothing to do with Adam Japan. I know it’s all confusing. It’s not like Adam Cues moved from Washington to Japan to China to Taiwan. That’s definitely not what happened.
 
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