cueguy said:
United States Patent 7097570
Inventors:, Gulyassy, Michael;. Application Number:, 10/334626. Filing Date:, 2002-12-31.
Publication Date:, 2006-08-29.
Maybe its true.
opinions, please best ferrule for a jumpbreak
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United States Patent 7097570
Inventors:, Gulyassy, Michael;. Application Number:, 10/334626. Filing Date:, 2002-12-31.
Publication Date:, 2006-08-29.
Maybe its true.
Ivorine 4 is very similar to the canvas phenolic only harder. I've found that some of the harder ferrules are also more brittle. I've seen Aegis 1 crack from stress more than anything else. I still like Ivorine 3. In all my years of building and repairing cues, I've only seen two crack. Both by the same guy.
stix4sale said:
I think I have read somewhere that it was actually used a decade or two before he patented it, it was banned in leagues and tournaments then, and he was the first to push the envelope and start using it again, and first to patent it ofcourse.
I don't remember where I read that.
Kelly
Eddie Prewitt made a jumper called Eddie's 747 way before Sledge came out.stix4sale said:
It had phenolic ferrule/tip. It was banned.
I don't remember where I read that.
Ted Harris posted that here.
Where's Ted these days btw?
Kelly_Guy said:
I know that I built a jump/break cue with a one peice phenolic ferrule/tip in 1998 or 1999. It was before I moved to my new shop. The cue has the actual date on it when it was completed but I would have to contact the owner to find the actual date. I had never seen this done but I built the cue and took it to the pool room to test it out. I had a phenolic tip on it that I had made. The room owner tried some crazy shaft jumps with it and then the tip came off. I thought about and said I know how to keep it on. I went and pulled the ferrule and put on a dark brown peice of phenolic and near the end I turned a slight ring so that it looked like a tip on the end.
The thing with patents is that it's not who invents but who patents who get's the rights to it's production. Thing is it's very expensive trying to inforce the patent against some one small with little money to get. It does stop large scale manufacturing though. Years ago when one Christmas it was the craze to put gifts and such into large ballons We put together a simple apperatice that could put a rose, with thorns inside a small balloon. The company that made the balloon machines liked it and started building them and we got royalties. Their research dept. found a patent on the idea and stopped manufacturing them. These things had been hand made for years by a few people who did balloon decorations but no one ever patented it. Finally some one did, although he wasn't the inventer, and that stopped others from building for sale.
Dick
I know that in 1998 I started the local craze. I would JB Coldweld a piece of Aegis onto a Fibre ferrule. Worked like a charm till Janis "outlawed" Varney "white" tips in his events.
I put this g-10 one piece on,seems rougher than the canvas phenolic and holds chalk better
stix4sale said:other than the phenolic rod that prathers sells
like this
reason being, i was told recently these kind of ferrule/tips are illegal in apa
true???
I talked to the owner of the APA franchise in the Cincinnati area the other night and he told me you can use any tip you want on your cue. Jump cues, themselves though are illeagal.
Dick
hi dickie, i talked to a guy last nite at an apa league. according to him, you cannot change cues during an inning. and he said you can't break a cue down during play. he also said that some of these rules vary from area to area. not sure if he knew for sure, sounded like he knew what he was talking aboutrhncue said:
Varney Cues said:
I am not too sure but I believe Stinger has a patent on the design whereas a tip with a stem is being inserted into the ferrule.
Your canvas phenolic tip could be the same as the tip patented in the Sledgehammer patent application....
You may want to check that out for your own benefit.
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Bad design imo. They can have it.nipponbilliards said:
Great, anyone can just make his canvas phenolic ferrule/tip pressed-on w/glue grooves and channel then.
Or have it a 3/8 16 with a thick cap.
Anyone remember the little Meucci handle Sammy "Jumpy" Jones used to use to jump balls? He say "I play up here, in the Jones zone"....as he waved his hands above the balls. He did jump quite well with that thing...and back then...I'm thinking it was a leather tip.