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Situation:

9 foot Century table with Simonis & rubber shimmed pockets,

Hill/Hill 8 ball match,

8 ball is 3 diamonds from a corner pocket with the cue ball 4" from the diagonal opposite pocket. A long perfectly straight in shot & basically must be bridged on the pocket,

Do you shoot a stop shot?

Do you shoot it with engish cuttting it to one side of the pocket & throw it toward the middle?

Do you shoot a straight slow rolled shot?

Do you bank the ball?

How would y'all shoot the shot & why?

Thanks in advance for your replies.
 
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i shoot it the same way i shot the preceding shot at normal speed and play the cue ball in any safe direction. If it is actually a perfect straight in then i use stop or draw.
 
If it's straight in shot, I'd shoot a stop shot on it. I practice those shots all the time and if I have to I can make it even jacked up one handed 8-9 times out of 10 , with two hands it's a hanger!:grin-square:
 
The stop shot is the correct shot. It has the highest degree of control, as it's an absolute. The worst shot would be playing a straight in shot with sidespin. Either you can play a long distance stop shot...or you can't. There is no maybe...

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com
 
I'd shoot a firm stun run through with a level cue, bridge on or around the pocket and cheat the pocket to avoid the scratch trying to leave the CB stuck to the sort rail at the first diamond from the desired pocket. I'd always shoot this shot firm, rather than hitting low and soft for a stop shot. Any fault in the stroke shooting slow is going to swerve the CB off line.
 
Dead center hit on cb.(stunning the cb )firm but not hard stroke.
But it bepends on you as the shooter.What u like.:smile:
 
A "shooters" shot

2 options:

First is the same as e-1 else is saying. Since you are shooting out of the pocket, be sure not to be tempted to jack up on the cue, ie: shoot almost level. I'd hit it center, and just under stun to slow whitey down from a mildly firm hit.

Second is to be a lil flashy ,and hit it a lil better than 1/2 diamond of the cushion for a 3 cushion shot into the opposite corner longrail pocket.

(I gotta feelin' CreeDo started something) :grin-square:
 
Stop shot.

Sounds like a no brainer at 4" from the lip of the pocket plus the distance of the pocket's mouth your shooting over, which may as well be another 4", imagining it now I don't see myself even remotely jacking up.

Change the scenario a bit and put the cue on the edge of the pocket, and I would comfortably opt for the slow roll with the 8 ball 3 diamonds away from intended pocket. If you know your own speed, 3 diamonds is a lot of green on any cloth. That's my opinion.

Good question.

Cheers
 
ENGLISH! said:
Situation:

9 foot Century table with Simonis & rubber shimmed pockets,

Hill/Hill 8 ball match,

8 ball is 3 diamonds from a corner pocket with the cue ball 4" from the diagonal opposite pocket. A long perfectly straight in shot & basically must be bridged on the pocket,

Do you shoot a stop shot?

Do you shoot it with engish cuttting it to one side of the pocket & throw it toward the middle?

Do you shoot a straight slow rolled shot?

Do you bank the ball?

How would y'all shoot the shot & why?

Thanks in advance for your replies.
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I would shoot it 3 rails into the other corner pocket, because if I miss it will not be a sell out.
 
If it's the game ball I hit it with rolling follow at about double pocket speed. Hitting low and harder invites surprises.

pj
chgo
 
So far the stop/stun is leading the way, followed by slow rolling, & then 2 for 3 rail banking it..
 
Scott Lee said:
The stop shot is the correct shot. It has the highest degree of control, as it's an absolute. The worst shot would be playing a straight in shot with sidespin. Either you can play a long distance stop shot...or you can't. There is no maybe...

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com
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if the ultimate stroke builder is the perfect stop shot
then that should be the easiest shot
why complicate things with spin:confused:
 
Anyone else?

Anyone else care to express their opinion before I relay what I recently did in my individual league?
 
I think some people are forgetting where the CB is in this example. If your hand is all jacked up in the pocket, that means you're hitting down on the CB if you use bottom. That will really effect accuracy. So for my money, I'm keeping the cue level and rolling it in unless the table has a tendency to roll off.
 
ENGLISH! said:
Anyone else care to express their opinion before I relay what I recently did in my individual league?
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Stop shot...all day long.

Why risk following the CB in for the scratch?

There is JUST as much chance for error "cheating the pocket" to avoid the scratch as there is on using center-low for a stop shot.

And since the stop is one of the most valuable shots in pool, you should know it cold and using it in this scenario entirely eliminates the chance of scratching the CB which would be a sell out.

If you miss the shot...at least you're still alive. If you scratch, you're dead man walking.

STOP shot.

(-:

EagleMan
 
ENGLISH! said:
Situation:

9 foot Century table with Simonis & rubber shimmed pockets,

Hill/Hill 8 ball match,

8 ball is 3 diamonds from a corner pocket with the cue ball 4" from the diagonal opposite pocket. A long perfectly straight in shot & basically must be bridged on the pocket,

Do you shoot a stop shot?

Do you shoot it with engish cuttting it to one side of the pocket & throw it toward the middle?

Do you shoot a straight slow rolled shot?

Do you bank the ball?

How would y'all shoot the shot & why?

Thanks in advance for your replies.
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With a bridge some times you could apply unintentional english, with stop (stun) shot that could throw the OB and maybe miss, i diffidently would role this a bit hard but not hard enough to scratch. I do not like draw back using bridge unless desperate.
 
Okay let me first say that I have been sick with cold/flu symtoms for the last two weeks & have a pulled muscle or something near the scapula, angel wing area on my shooting side.

That being said, I shot a very similar long stop shot in an earlier game on the 8 ball for the win, but I was bridging on the table bed.

So, I thought of the stop shot , bank shots, cheating the pocket with a bit of english, & even a firm CJ Wiley TOI shot, but...due to having to bridge on the pocket for most of them and the possible dangers associated with that as pointed out by Mr.Naji & others, as well as my being not up to snuff, I chose an open bridge from 'off' of the table frame to get the cue stick as low as possible & slow rolled it in with a bit more than pocket speed as PJ suggested. The cue ball stopped about a diamond & a half short of the pocket.

I think that was the best option all things considered. If the CB was farther up & allowed a more standard bridge I probably would of simply shot a stop shot, but that was not the case.

Thank all of you that responded & I found it interesting when analyzing who responded how.

Thanks again,
 
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