Orange Crush
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There is a crusher?
I always thought the Orange Crush was the 5,6,7,8,9 out (wild even on the break) and all the breakshots.
Looks like the spot's been reduced perhaps due to the recession?
Rufus:
Nah, the spot you mention sounds like the "half-Rainbow crush" or something along those lines.
The following flavors are available:
Kingsford crush: the breaks and wild 8-ball
Raspberry crush: the breaks and wild 7-ball
GrannySmith crush: the breaks and wild 6-ball
Orange crush: the breaks and wild 5-ball
Plum crush: the breaks and wild 4-ball
Cherry crush: the breaks and wild 3-ball
Blueberry crush: the breaks and wild 2-ball
Lemon crush: the breaks and wild 1-ball
Rainbow crush: the breaks and any ball is wild
In any case, give one of these spots out carelessly, and you'll just get crushed.
J/K,
-Sean
I always thought the orange crush meant giving up the break as well as the 5 and out. If you can`t win with this spot you should run like hell.
Orange Crush Revisited
Thank you all for your replies. The consensus seems that it would be in the favor of the B player to take the wild 5 and alternate breaks. I am sorry for the confusion. I think the conversation mentioned the A player giving some lesser players the orange crush and when I asked what that was, he said the wild 5 and I said I would take it, then he said he couldn't give the breaks. A little confusing but makes sense as it seems the orange crush is the wild 5 and the breaks.....Thanks for all the replies.
In addition, if someone says the 5-out, where does the lower player go to if the 5 is pocketed early out of turn? I believe on the call 5, if it goes down, deal is over on that rack. What about the 5-out? Thank you all for your clarifications. I am just a tournament/league player who likes to play better players. Sometimes it is hard to get a game with them without making a wager. I just don't want to GIVE them my hard earned cash...... Thanks again.
Thank you all for your replies. The consensus seems that it would be in the favor of the B player to take the wild 5 and alternate breaks. I am sorry for the confusion. I think the conversation mentioned the A player giving some lesser players the orange crush and when I asked what that was, he said the wild 5 and I said I would take it, then he said he couldn't give the breaks. A little confusing but makes sense as it seems the orange crush is the wild 5 and the breaks.....Thanks for all the replies.
In addition, if someone says the 5-out, where does the lower player go to if the 5 is pocketed early out of turn? I believe on the call 5, if it goes down, deal is over on that rack. What about the 5-out? Thank you all for your clarifications. I am just a tournament/league player who likes to play better players. Sometimes it is hard to get a game with them without making a wager. I just don't want to GIVE them my hard earned cash...... Thanks again.
As long as the balls exist they are $ balls, ASSuming the scenario you speak of has the balls pocketed in a legal fashion by the spotter, they are gone daddy, gone.
Where you are gonna get fukked is...
Money balls pocketed on fouls need to be discussed prior to game start. It will be an issue.
If they are not discussed and you don't want to play long, here are some handy rules of thumb on how to act:
1. You are giving spot- shoot money ball in right away and give up ball in hand.
B. You are getting spot- if you make $ball and fould, spot it up with the allegation that it should be just like the 9...gotta come back up.
But really, IMO they should come back up if spotter makes them and fouls, stay down if spotee makes them and fouls
I've always been told that the spot we're talking about is indeed the 5-out WITH the break. To give weight like that to someone that can run out regularly several things have to happen.
First,the player giving the spot has to be an Archer-like slug racker. You can easily position a single ball or even 2 in spots where they go on the break rarely,try hiding all 5
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The player getting the spot has to be chosen carefully. They have to be an egg-like breaker. They should also be a rare breed of DOG,with little to no heart. It also helps if the person getting this isn't an astute mover,not a true student of the game,and shoots quickly,without a machine-like preshot routine,and no discernable rhythm.
The player giving the weight better be close to the speed it takes to DOMINATE the 9 and regularly beat the 10-ball ghost on a 9 footer. The type that may go a couple hours without missing ANYTHING remotely makeable.
That player also takes NO flyers,and knows how to move,and plays safe in ways that nullify effective jumping. The bet should also be sizeable enough to make the guy getting it uncomfortable.
Other than that,it's nearly impossible to hand this spot out unless you hate money.
On the other hand,I asked an all-time great for advice on how to decide who to spot what. In his words,he said that if you are truly drilling a guy dead-even,you SHOULD be able to give that same player up to and including the wild 5 by itself and still win,but you have to play nearly perfect to do so. Tommy D.
First,the player giving the spot has to be an Archer-like slug racker. You can easily position a single ball or even 2 in spots where they go on the break rarely,try hiding all 5
.The player getting the spot has to be chosen carefully. They have to be an egg-like breaker. They should also be a rare breed of DOG,with little to no heart. It also helps if the person getting this isn't an astute mover,not a true student of the game,and shoots quickly,without a machine-like preshot routine,and no discernable rhythm.
The player giving the weight better be close to the speed it takes to DOMINATE the 9 and regularly beat the 10-ball ghost on a 9 footer. The type that may go a couple hours without missing ANYTHING remotely makeable.
That player also takes NO flyers,and knows how to move,and plays safe in ways that nullify effective jumping. The bet should also be sizeable enough to make the guy getting it uncomfortable.
Other than that,it's nearly impossible to hand this spot out unless you hate money.
On the other hand,I asked an all-time great for advice on how to decide who to spot what. In his words,he said that if you are truly drilling a guy dead-even,you SHOULD be able to give that same player up to and including the wild 5 by itself and still win,but you have to play nearly perfect to do so. Tommy D.
Rufus:
Nah, the spot you mention sounds like the "half-Rainbow crush" or something along those lines.
The following flavors are available:
Kingsford crush: the breaks and wild 8-ball
Raspberry crush: the breaks and wild 7-ball
GrannySmith crush: the breaks and wild 6-ball
Orange crush: the breaks and wild 5-ball
Plum crush: the breaks and wild 4-ball
Cherry crush: the breaks and wild 3-ball
Blueberry crush: the breaks and wild 2-ball
Lemon crush: the breaks and wild 1-ball
Rainbow crush: the breaks and any ball is wild
In any case, give one of these spots out carelessly, and you'll just get crushed.
J/K,
-Sean
Okay, so the "[color] crush" means you get the breaks and you have two money balls, the 9 and whatever color? So "wild 5" and "5-out" are not the same thing? So confusticating.
what do you call it when the spot is just the color, no breaks?
orange crush clarification
So, is the Orange Crush the Wild 5 and the breaks or the 5-out and the breaks, just looking to clarify as different people seem to be thinking different options. Also, someone mentioned to watch for the rules on pocketing the five in a Wild 5 for the player giving up the weight. Makes sense, I wouldn't want my opponent to break and intentionally foul to put the 5 in so that it is now off the table if it was wild. If it was the 5-out, it wouldn't matter as I still have 4 money balls left.....just looking to clarify things since there are so many different versions of giving up spots. Thanks again......
So, is the Orange Crush the Wild 5 and the breaks or the 5-out and the breaks, just looking to clarify as different people seem to be thinking different options. Also, someone mentioned to watch for the rules on pocketing the five in a Wild 5 for the player giving up the weight. Makes sense, I wouldn't want my opponent to break and intentionally foul to put the 5 in so that it is now off the table if it was wild. If it was the 5-out, it wouldn't matter as I still have 4 money balls left.....just looking to clarify things since there are so many different versions of giving up spots. Thanks again......
Thanks for the clarification Neil...