Original Nicknames

The FatMan

klockdoc said:
Actually, maybe someone can clarify this for me as to whether it is true or not.

I heard that Rudolph Wanderone was actually nicknamed New York Fats, but, changed his name to Minnesota Fats after the movie "The Hustler" came out.


True....he was New York Fats
 
The tradition of nicknames for pool hustlers/players goes way back -- and there used to often be several players operating at the same time, with the same nicknames.

I wrote a short article, and have compiled a very long list of names (which continues to get added to), here:

AKA: Nicknames, Monikers & Also Known As

You have to understand that while today there are many "pro players" (even though there is still embarassingly short money available for them to make a living) before the proliferation of tournaments in the last third of the 20th C there were very few pros. The rest were amatuers and hustlers, and in those early days it appears to have been mainly the hustlers that had the nicknames, not the pros.

What we have today is often more of a "show name" than a genuine nickname. Nicknames were traditionally bestowed by others, not invented or stolen from somebody else for one's self. They often were descriptive (ie "Red"), or referred to a place ("NY" Fats), or were some kind of abbreviation or play of words on the player's real name, especially if the real name was not so catchy itself (Michael "Geese" Gerace).

They served a "real" purpose...
 
Actually ....

Dman said:
True....he was New York Fats

I read that before Jackie Gleason went into show business, that he also was referred to as 'NY Fats', and that his actual skill might have been greater than Minnesota Fats.
 
Snapshot9 said:
I read that before Jackie Gleason went into show business, that he also was referred to as 'NY Fats', and that his actual skill might have been greater than Minnesota Fats.

WRONG!!!!!
 
During the DCC ring game a few yrs back, someone called out "sea-biscuit" to Alex Pagulian - much better than "the lion". I wonder why it never took.
 
Fatboy said:
there was a guy around oakland named snake for years, he was a white guy that talked like a black guy, i liked him, he got me out of a jam once too, he played good, i think his name was mark but i'm not sure ron cook would know, or othe bay area players from a while back.

Mark "The Snake" Haddad is in Denver now & has been a very good player for some time. I believe he had the Snake nickname put on him years ago for the little moves you would have to fade when you played him. One that sticks out in my mind is when playing him one pocket and you are breaking, he would be chalking his cue and set the chalk down in your line of sight just when you are ready to fire. We played in the 9 ball tournament at the Spring Fling at Hard Times in Sacramento this year, and his Break Cue fell over and made some noise while I was down on a key shot. I'm sure it was an accident and I got lucky and won the set anyway. John
 
1pocket said:
The tradition of nicknames for pool hustlers/players goes way back -- and there used to often be several players operating at the same time, with the same nicknames.

I wrote a short article, and have compiled a very long list of names (which continues to get added to), here:

AKA: Nicknames, Monikers & Also Known As



What we have today is often more of a "show name" than a genuine nickname. Nicknames were traditionally bestowed by others, not invented or stolen from somebody else for one's self. They often were descriptive (ie "Red"), or referred to a place ("NY" Fats), or were some kind of abbreviation or play of words on the player's real name, especially if the real name was not so catchy itself (Michael "Geese" Gerace).

They served a "real" purpose...

Tap-tap-tap. Giving yourself a nickname is sad, IMO...
 
Cuebacca said:
Mark Haddad, I believe, is the Snake you're referring to.

yes thats him, thanks, good guy he was never a "snake" in the bad sence when I knew him, I bet on him lots of time a came out good. he would come to stockton and bet his own $$$ from time to time and booked alot of winners.
 
the name "Fatboy" was labled on me in the pool hall in about 86 by a friend of mine and it just stuck, i weighed 220 at the time, i have never been thin or fat, But the name worked and just caught on, so I have had it ever since. I like it,
 
klockdoc said:
Mika Immonen A.K.A. "Iceman" original Larry "Iceman" Hubbard

Luc Salvas A.K.A. "Machine Gun" original Lou "Machine Gun" Butera

Who else do you know that had their nick name stolen?

We retire jersey's of professional baseball, football and Hockey players. How come we don't retire the nicknames of famous pool players?..:confused:


Actually the original "Ice Man" spells his name, Larry Hubbart. Very Common mistake.
 
Bill Cress one time played "Surfer Rod" one-pocket (with the big cue-ball) on a bar box in Madison Wi. for $20. Bill won and doubled the bet the next game. Bill doubled the bet after every game he won. Bill won the first 6 games before he lost. While Bill was racking the balls for the next game Rod noticed he was shorted $20. Bills response was that he just wanted Rod to Know he could have had a chance to bet the $1280 too.
 
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