Aren't "overhand" and "dart motion" just other ways of saying the grip hand naturally folds under as the elbow drops? I don't think it's a motion that adds to the stroke - if anything it reduces speed.
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Overhanded or Underhanded
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Hey Pat,
What I mean by overhanded is from the elbow down. Like a pendulum stroke. The stroke is always seeking the cloth on follow thru. To me this is overhanded.
Thanks
John
Oh, I see what you are talking about, the position of your hand on the cue as you stroke the ball. I never have checked as for as percentages, Iuse the underhand, unless jumping a ball. I still may use the underhand if I need to jump a long ways.---Smitty
"the moment of truth is the moment of impact". CJ Wiley
There's no need for any "special stroke" to apply the "Touch of Inside". The main thing we try to do is bring the cue straight back and straight through. The "pendulum" stroking is often used in the practice strokes to give the player a heighened sense of the "groove/slot" so the cue stays on track. This is a personal preference and I wouldn't mess with anyone's natural motion, "different strokes benefit different folks".
You never want the cue to move left or right, however, a little "up and down" motion is ok (mostly in the practice stoke, on the delivery I prefer the cue to go as straight and pure as possible). You can see this in Scott Frost's stoke pretty distinctly in his warm up stoking.
I use this "rehearsal" on the break and longer "stoke shots" because it helps me feel a defined "groove" with my hand, wrist and forearm. Whatever your method (piston or pendulum), just make sure you can hit the cue ball as precisely as possible, accuracy is the name of the game - "the moment of truth is the moment of impact". CJ Wiley
There's no need for any "special stroke" to apply the "Touch of Inside". The main thing we try to do is bring the cue straight back and straight through. The "pendulum" stroking is often used in the practice strokes to give the player a heighened sense of the "groove/slot" so the cue stays on track. This is a personal preference and I wouldn't mess with anyone's natural motion, "different strokes benefit different folks".
You never want the cue to move left or right, however, a little "up and down" motion is ok (mostly in the practice stoke, on the delivery I prefer the cue to go as straight and pure as possible). You can see this in Scott Frost's stoke pretty distinctly in his warm up stoking.
I use this "rehearsal" on the break and longer "stoke shots" because it helps me feel a defined "groove" with my hand, wrist and forearm. Whatever your method (piston or pendulum), just make sure you can hit the cue ball as precisely as possible, accuracy is the name of the game - "the moment of truth is the moment of impact". CJ Wiley
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Hey Cornerman,
I thought you were 100% underhanded! Good explanation Freddie. Just teasing you about the 100% thing.
Many Regards,
Lock N Load.
