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RDCustomCues

RDCustomCues

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here is my attempt at building a dedicated paint booth with some extra stuff laying around the shop.

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I took a old work bench put it on wheels to be able to move around. Made cabinet out of 4x8 floor board. Used wood lathe not being used and put a rheostat to control the speed. Also found a exhaust fan for a oven reg $130 at home depot on clearance for $40 it moves 200 cu feet a minute. I gutted it and cut a vent hole in back of cabinet. Behind cabinet i have some removeable filers in place. My thinking was that the exhaust fan will evacute the over spray I hope. I have to finish wiring the exhaust fan in the morning and extend the control wire and mount them. We will see if it works out.
 
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RDCustomCues said:
here is my attempt at building a dedicated paint booth with some extra stuff laying around the shop.

paintbooth1.jpg



I took a old work bench put it on wheels to be able to move around. Made cabinet out of 4x8 floor board. Used wood lathe not being used and put a rheostat to control the speed. Also found a exhaust fan for a oven reg $130 at home depot on clearance for $40 it moves 200 cu feet a minute. I gutted it and cut a vent hole in back of cabinet. Behind cabinet i have some removeable filers in place. My thinking was that the exhaust fan will evacute the over spray I hope. I have to finish wiring the exhaust fan in the morning and extend the control wire and mount them. We will see if it works out.
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Did you forget to mention the big metal weight at the bottom so it wasn't top heavy? :D

Kelly
 
see i knew i would find use for that mini lathe :D Yes it was top heavy not as bad as i figured but i still was concerned.
 
Looks good, I'm looking at building something similar, but I need to find a motor that I can use a speed control on. Are you exhausting into the shop, or are you venting outside? With most sprays, the filters won't catch enough of it. I would recomend venting outside if possible. I'm going to put plexi doors on the front with a couple of lamps in it for drying. Plus put filtered openings on the sides to allow air flow, then vent outside. Chris describes it in his book pretty well
Dave
 
You're on the right track but it's an absolute MUST that you vent to the outside of the shop. The filters are useless, get rid of them. They only thing they'll filter out are particulates that will plug the filters quickly. Once the filters plug, you won't be venting anymore. Your bigger concern should be the organic vapors. If you're shooting auto-clearcoat, you're going to be in trouble quick. Once the clear & catalyst are mixed, a reaction takes place. One of the resulting gases that is given off is isocyanate. This gas is odorless, colorless and tasteless. You (and your family) won't know you've had too much exposure until it's too late. One of the clues you will have is that if you are smelling the other components of your mix you can take it to the bank that you're being exposed to isocyanate. Oh, and the other components that you're now smelling, they're the ones that cause cancer.

While (IMO), auto-clearcoat (acrylic urethane) is currently one of the best, if not the best, finishes that you can top-coat a cue with, it's also one of the most dangerous. It can kill you if all necessary precautions aren't observed. That means proper ventilation, respirator (a must) and leave the area immediately when done shooting. What scares me, from your photo, is that it appears that you're shooting in your garage. Bare in mind that this gas continues to evaporate from the surface of the cue as the finish is curing. Daddy, what's that funny smell ?
 
I like the idea. I've been thinking about how to build something myself. My question is, Is that fans motor and electrical parts sealed(explosion proof). It may just be paranoia, but I'd be afraid that fumes from auto clear would get into the motor and a spark would create a flash.
 
KJ, anything dangerous with using super glues and epoxy? any odorless gases emitted that are dangerous from both super glues or epoxy?

Regards.
 
I am in deed venting out side. And bought also yesterday some duct work. The reasons for the removable filters was to catch some of the particulates. I have neigbors close by that park pretty close I was concerned after it vented thier vehicles getting speckled with clear.
 
KJ Cues said:
You're on the right track but it's an absolute MUST that you vent to the outside of the shop. The filters are useless, get rid of them. They only thing they'll filter out are particulates that will plug the filters quickly. Once the filters plug, you won't be venting anymore. Your bigger concern should be the organic vapors. If you're shooting auto-clearcoat, you're going to be in trouble quick. Once the clear & catalyst are mixed, a reaction takes place. One of the resulting gases that is given off is isocyanate. This gas is odorless, colorless and tasteless. You (and your family) won't know you've had too much exposure until it's too late. One of the clues you will have is that if you are smelling the other components of your mix you can take it to the bank that you're being exposed to isocyanate. Oh, and the other components that you're now smelling, they're the ones that cause cancer.

While (IMO), auto-clearcoat (acrylic urethane) is currently one of the best, if not the best, finishes that you can top-coat a cue with, it's also one of the most dangerous. It can kill you if all necessary precautions aren't observed. That means proper ventilation, respirator (a must) and leave the area immediately when done shooting. What scares me, from your photo, is that it appears that you're shooting in your garage. Bare in mind that this gas continues to evaporate from the surface of the cue as the finish is curing. Daddy, what's that funny smell ?
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You also have to consider where you are working. Quite a few guys work in a cellar of converted garage. They may be surprised if they were to have an accident and burn down the house they may void their homeowners insurance. Lose a $400,000 house trying to build a $400.00 cue.
 
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Cuemaster98 said:
KJ, anything dangerous with using super glues and epoxy? any odorless gases emitted that are dangerous from both super glues or epoxy?

Regards.
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Duc, Epoxy, for the most part is pretty safe as long as reasonable precautions are followed. 'Do not take internally', you know, that kind of thing. I've been using it 20 yrs. and haven't experienced any issues.

Super glue (cyanoacrylate) on the other hand causes me concern, especially when used in the amount that is required to use it as a finish. My course of study in college was Mechanical Engineering and not Chemistry but my educated guess would be that 'cyano'acrylate and iso'cyan'ate gas share a similar molecule. It's possible that when applying super-glue as a finish in the amounts required, a gas is created that may be a form of gaseous super-glue. Inhale too much and you could run the risk of coating the lining of your lungs with super-glue. No more oxygen.....dead man walking. I'm not trying to scare you or maybe I am. Think about it, when you're using SG as a finish and your eyes start burning and it's getting hard to breath, that can't be a good thing.

If you really want the straight-skinny, Product Safety Data Sheets are readily available on the net as a download, for just about any substance known to man.
 
Wheres is a good place to get a BELT DRIVEN SMALL exhaust fan I am rethinking the current exhaust fan set up even though the guy at the local paint and body supply stated it would be fine and he knows painters that smoke while they shoot paint. Which I would say is really stupid. Anyway I want to eliminate the potential for a flash.
 
KJ Cues said:
Duc, Epoxy, for the most part is pretty safe as long as reasonable precautions are followed. 'Do not take internally', you know, that kind of thing. I've been using it 20 yrs. and haven't experienced any issues.

Super glue (cyanoacrylate) on the other hand causes me concern, especially when used in the amount that is required to use it as a finish. My course of study in college was Mechanical Engineering and not Chemistry but my educated guess would be that 'cyano'acrylate and iso'cyan'ate gas share a similar molecule. It's possible that when applying super-glue as a finish in the amounts required, a gas is created that may be a form of gaseous super-glue. Inhale too much and you could run the risk of coating the lining of your lungs with super-glue. No more oxygen.....dead man walking. I'm not trying to scare you or maybe I am. Think about it, when you're using SG as a finish and your eyes start burning and it's getting hard to breath, that can't be a good thing.

If you really want the straight-skinny, Product Safety Data Sheets are readily available on the net as a download, for just about any substance known to man.
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I've been told that Bob Meucci has such a bad reaction from using epoxy, for so many years, that he can't be around it any more...JER
 
Epoxy contains chemicals that are known to cause cancer in the state of California. It says so on the package.
 
cuemaker03 said:
Epoxy contains chemicals that are known to cause cancer in the state of California. It says so on the package.
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So does the ink they use to write that warning.
 
Quote:'BlackHeartCues'
"I've been told that Bob Meucci has such a bad reaction from using epoxy, for so many years, that he can't be around it any more...JER"

Quote: 'cuemaker03'
"Epoxy contains chemicals that are known to cause cancer in the state of California. It says so on the package."



Well, fortunately I'm not Bob Meucci and I don't live in the State of California. I do however live in California, Michigan. Does that mean I'll get the Michigan version ?
 
JoeyInCali said:
So does the ink they use to write that warning.
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That an just about everything else used today, even most household products. I was watching a show about a study of different toxins the body picks up, and was suprised at some of the stuff that made the list as to the causes. some things I wouldn't have thought of.

Heck even alot of the preservatives they put in foods these days aren't so good for the body.


Ca glue, it has to be bad for you too, I just can't imagine it not being. I have to watch throwing a paper towel of it in My trash too soon due to the way it heats and smokes up like an acid does. It's definatly producing gases, and they burn the eyes pretty quickly too, so I would have to think they are not good to breath in.
 
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