Paradise Cue?

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Hello: how ya'll doin? I'm new so be nice. This is my first post on this site :) Anyway I just made a package deal on 3 cues and a case. All three cues are for sale as is the case. 2 of the cues are one of a kind Jacobys and one cue I think is a Paradise. Perhaps you guys could help me with that. I've had a few folks tell me it looks a whole bunch like a Paradise but it is unmarked in any way so I can't tell. Regardless it's a very attractive cue that shows obvious very high quality. It appears to be 20.5 oz with a 13 mm shaft. I've been playing pool for over 40 years and this cue has a great hit. Look at the pics and let me know what you guys think and conversly possible value. Thanks
 

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Looks a lot like this one, but no clear window under the wrap, ringwork is different, etc. More like a copy than the real deal. Sweet looking cue, no matter who made it. Close up pix of the joint and under the rubber bumper would also help in IDing the cue.

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Well, it's certainly similar to a Paradise Diamond King, but I think it's a tribute from another cue maker. Here are some pictures of the real deal.
Mr H

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Example 2


Wow, I guess we're all over this one, aren't we gang! LOL.
 
lencac said:
Is this thing worth $800?
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Honestly, very doubtful, but you never know. For these older Adam fancy cues, you usually can expect $300-450, depending on the cue, condition, etc, but if you run across someone who wants it, who knows?

Joe
 
Thanks Bamacues for your input. You know, I've been playing pool since I was basically tall enough to stand at the table. I'm 55. But inspite of that this whole thing of cues and values is somewhat of a mystey to me. I've used the same McDermott for over 30 years now and I definately know a great cue when I see one but as to what they are worth I really don't have a cue (clue) cause I've never spent anytime looking into that aspect of it. I love my McDermott but it's been a tool for me. Since I've been looking into these things lately I'm getting an education. My McDermott, theoretically is worth 4 or 5 times what I paid for it :eek: Go figure. Thanks again Bama and the rest of you guys ;)
In light of what I've learned about it today I'm going to say I'd take $600 for it and am open for discussion.
 
lencac said:
Thanks Bamacues for your input. You know, I've been playing pool since I was basically tall enough to stand at the table. I'm 55. But inspite of that this whole thing of cues and values is somewhat of a mystey to me. I've used the same McDermott for over 30 years now and I definately know a great cue when I see one but as to what they are worth I really don't have a cue (clue) cause I've never spent anytime looking into that aspect of it. I love my McDermott but it's been a tool for me. Since I've been looking into these things lately I'm getting an education. My McDermott, theoretically is worth 4 or 5 times what I paid for it :eek: Go figure. Thanks again Bama and the rest of you guys ;)
In light of what I've learned about it today I'm going to say I'd take $600 for it and am open for discussion.
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It is a sweet looking cue..I really like these classic style cues. Adam cues has come bck with some reissues of the most popular cues, and I think they are great value purchases.

While many old production cues, like McDermott cues, etc have a high Blue Book or retail value on their site (I am only picking on McDermott because they do such a good job), the reality of a cue's value shows up when you try to sell it. The book values seldom hold up.

The biggest problem for any production cue being sold on here is that a whole lot of the folks on here are in the billiards industry and are dealers for production cues. That being said, those of us who are dealers get wholesale pricing on production cues, so it is very difficult to get excited even when you see a nice, used production cue being sold. While the price being asked may be a great retail value for a player, it is usually not a very good deal for a wholesale buyer.

That is the main reason you mostly see custom cues on here. There are not as many dealers of customs (some custom cue makers have NO dealers) so the pricing structure is more regulated, even for the folks who are in the business. Even those custom cue makers who do have dealers usually give a much lower discount on their cues than production cues have.

BTW, welcome to the forum.

Joe
 
While many old production cues, like McDermott cues, etc have a high Blue Book or retail value on their site (I am only picking on McDermott because they do such a good job), the reality of a cue's value shows up when you try to sell it. The book values seldom hold up.
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I agree. It doesn't matter cause that cue isn't going to be sold anyway. Bama, if you could please (because you seem very knowledgable) look at the other 2 posts I just put up on the Jacoby cues I have and if you would please let me know what you think. Thanks
 
classiccues said:
It's an Adam replica of a Paradise...

JV (---they should have signed the forearm... :D
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I totally agree they should be signed but some people are removing the signatures. Thank God Adam is putting other idicators in them that scream replica!!!!!!:D
 
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