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[stan shuffett]

CTE is this simple once it's learned.

SEE A PERCEPTION AND ALIGN TO CENTER. It does not get any easier.

CTE is different at first. It takes a little sticktuitiveness! Why? Because CTE occurs from an offset. Most can't let go of wanting to be behind the center of the cue ball. It's odd at first.

Stan Shuffett

 

[SpiderWebComm]

Cookie, in the not so distance past, finished top 10 in the US Amateur.
Tyler Styer recently got a strong 3rd in a pro event in CA.
Brian Parks recently won a pro event winning against Oscar in the finals in CA.
Stevie just won an event last weekend.
Matt Krah is on the map regularly in the NE .

Stan Shuffett

Lets not forget where Lou ends up after he feels spunky enough to donate money to a tournament once or twice a year.

He's known as Mr. TWO and OUT.

That's his "travels" around the country where he asks everyone in the room if they know about CTE or use it. LMAO

 

[stan shuffett]

Lets not forget where Lou ends up after he feels spunky enough to donate money to a tournament once or twice a year.

He's known as Mr. TWO and OUT.

That's his "travels" around the country where he asks everyone in the room if they know about CTE or use it. LMAO

I just reviewed an email from a professional that is in my lessons list. One of his comments was that a number one rule of his is to NEVER share his secrets of aiming and how well they work. This is a player that has played the greats all around the country with over 100 road trips under his belt.

Here's a scenario of how it really works out there concerning asking a pro how they aim.
Pool enthusiasts to Nick Varner. "How do you aim?" Do you use Ghost Ball?" NV says, "Yeah, That's what I do."
Next guy asks NV...."How do you aim? NV says,,, WELLLLL. Guy says, "Do you use contact points?" NV says, "Yeah, That's what I do. "

Pros avoid the aiming topic and duck out ASAP, They don't want to be bothered with it. And what they know they ain't telling and sure as heck don't want me giving it up in detail. WHY? Because it cost them games and wins that translates into $$$$$.
The pros are a closed fraternity to some degree. They don't tell their greatest secrets.

Stan Shuffett

 

[Low500]

I just reviewed an email from a professional that is in my lessons list. One of his comments was that a number one rule of his is to NEVER share his secrets of aiming and how well they work. This is a player that has played the greats all around the country with over 100 road trips under his belt.
Here's a scenario of how it really works out there concerning asking a pro how they aim.
Pool enthusiasts to Nick Varner. "How do you aim?" Do you use Ghost Ball?" NV says, "Yeah, That's what I do."
Next guy asks NV...."How do you aim? NV says,,, WELLLLL. Guy says, "Do you use contact points?" NV says, "Yeah, That's what I do. "
Pros avoid the aiming topic and duck out ASAP, They don't want to be bothered with it. And what they know they ain't telling and sure as heck don't want me giving it up in detail. WHY? Because it cost them games and wins that translates into $$$$$.
The pros are a closed fraternity to some degree. They don't tell their greatest secrets.
Stan Shuffett

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[BC21]

CTE is this simple once it's learned.

SEE A PERCEPTION AND ALIGN TO CENTER. It does not get any easier.

CTE is different at first. It takes a little sticktuitiveness! Why? Because CTE occurs from an offset. Most can't let go of wanting to be behind the center of the cue ball. It's odd at first.

Stan Shuffett

Good post. This is probably why I have trouble understanding the final CCB solution. I see the perceptions, but not the center alignment. So I don't get it. Sometimes I make a ball and think "Wow, I got it!". But then the more I work around the perceptions I realize I'm just guessing/estimating where to place my bridge hand and where final CCB is. I could do it for several weeks I suppose and get a better feel for it, but I surely don't think that's right because it's not supposed be a developed feel.

Besides, if I'm going to invest a lot of time into my game, it's going to be spent strengthening my developed skills, not completely overhauling them. For a younger player maybe change is easier, but not for me. Just thought it'd be neat to be able to understand CTE or figure it out. I have a bunch of those old metal puzzle contraptions in my pool room, along with rubics cubes and triangles, etc... and when friends come over I watch them struggle with those things, and I think that's what I must look like with CTE. Lol. It's a puzzle I'd like to solve. That's it. I'm not out to bash or disrespect your work.

 

[stan shuffett]

Good post. This is probably why I have trouble understanding the final CCB solution. I see the perceptions, but not the center alignment. So I don't get it. Sometimes I make a ball and think "Wow, I got it!". But then the more I work around the perceptions I realize I'm just guessing/estimating where to place my bridge hand and where final CCB is. I could do it for several weeks I suppose and get a better feel for it, but I surely don't think that's right because it's not supposed be a developed feel.

Besides, if I'm going to invest a lot of time into my game, it's going to be spent strengthening my developed skills, not completely overhauling them. For a younger player maybe change is easier, but not for me. Just thought it'd be neat to be able to understand CTE or figure it out. I have a bunch of those old metal puzzle contraptions in my pool room, along with rubics cubes and triangles, etc... and when friends come over I watch them struggle with those things, and I think that's what I must look like with CTE. Lol. It's a puzzle I'd like to solve. That's it. I'm not out to bash or disrespect your work.

Concerning change:

I love our game. I'm as passionate as one can be about pool. I have played for nearly a lifetime. I began playing pool at age 8 59 years ago. I developed a strong enough game to suit a lot of folks but not myself. I struggled year after year after year with fundamentals to include the visual domain. As a working stiff, I accepted that that I just had to put the hours in in order to minimize my struggles. I played a game that I loved thinking that I could never realize my fullest potential-physically and visually. Just not enough hours in the day for keeping my roller coaster feel ride intact. I finally saw the light!

I had the wrong mind set. Once I had the insight that CTE might solve my quest for understanding how to really SEE and ALIGN, I set out to explore with 110% of my being to include every cell in my body. CTE was my vehicle for my journey. Guess what? I reached my destination of learning how to really see and align for enabling me to reach my fullest potential---visually and subsequently physical. I am so glad that I won't die having not experienced the pure joy of knowing how to really see pool balls for alignment. I'm going to pass it along to others in the name of Hal Houle. There's millions as I type this post spinning their wheels with this very thing and I'm not going to hide the info from anyone even if I do get kicked around like a junkyard dog.

Stan Shuffett

 

[BC21]

Concerning change:

I love our game. I'm as passionate as one can be about pool. I have played for nearly a lifetime. I began playing pool at age 8 59 years ago. I developed a strong enough game to suit a lot of folks but not myself. I struggled year after year after year with fundamentals to include the visual domain. As a working stiff, I accepted that that I just had to put the hours in in order to minimize my struggles. I played a game that I loved thinking that I could never realize my fullest potential-physically and visually. Just not enough hours in the day for keeping my roller coaster feel ride intact. I finally saw the light!

I had the wrong mind set. Once I had the insight that CTE might solve my quest for understanding how to really SEE and ALIGN, I set out to explore with 110% of my being to include every cell in my body. CTE was my vehicle for my journey. Guess what? I reached my destination of learning how to really see and align for enabling me to reach my fullest potential---visually and subsequently physical. I am so glad that I won't die having not experienced the pure joy of knowing how to really see pool balls for alignment. I'm going to pass it along to others in the name of Hal Houle. There's millions as I type this post spinning their wheels with this very thing and I'm not going to hide the info from anyone even if I do get kicked around like a junkyard dog.

Stan Shuffett

I understand and respect your passion for pool. I have non-pool-playing friends that occasionally ask, "Do you still play pool?" I smile and say yes, but in my head I'm saying, "Hell yes! Why would I ever stop!" Lol. I have pool-playing friends that can't believe I've never lost my passion for playing, not once in 30+ years. So I truly understand where you are coming from.

I think what creates skepticism when it comes to CTE is the fact you admittedly have been obsessed with getting to the heart of it, spending years and years trying to perfect and analyze the workings of it. Such a timeframe gives one the idea that maybe you've programmed your brain to eventually make the system work, and that's why there's a learning curve for newbies that begin the CTE journey. It may just be that reprogramming the brain to see things differently as you say, is what takes the most work/time. I can see that. But I can also see the skeptical side, thinking maybe that what you consider objective is actually years of subjective training that eventually came to feel objective to you, though new players lack your sense of objectivity because they haven't developed it yet through their own subjective process.

Regardless of tag words such as "objective" or "subjective", any aiming method can become as automatic as turning a door knob if a player dedicates the practice time. So I have no doubts that CTE works excellent for those who devote themselves to it.

 

[stan shuffett]

I understand and respect your passion for pool. I have non-pool-playing friends that occasionally ask, "Do you still play pool?" I smile and say yes, but in my head I'm saying, "Hell yes! Why would I ever stop!" Lol. I have pool-playing friends that can't believe I've never lost my passion for playing, not once in 30+ years. So I truly understand where you are coming from.

I think what creates skepticism when it comes to CTE is the fact you admittedly have been obsessed with getting to the heart of it, spending years and years trying to perfect and analyze the workings of it. Such a timeframe gives one the idea that maybe you've programmed your brain to eventually make the system work, and that's why there's a learning curve for newbies that begin the CTE journey. It may just be that reprogramming the brain to see things differently as you say, is what takes the most work/time. I can see that. But I can also see the skeptical side, thinking maybe that what you consider objective is actually years of subjective training that eventually came to feel objective to you, though new players lack your sense of objectivity because they haven't developed it yet through their own subjective process.

Regardless of tag words such as "objective" or "subjective", any aiming method can become as automatic as turning a door knob if a player dedicates the practice time. So I have no doubts that CTE works excellent for those who devote themselves to it.

CTE was a 10 year ordeal for Hal.

CTE was also a 10 year deal for me but I had a running start with foundational info. My success has nothing to with a false programming of my mind leading me to think that I solved a phenomena in pretentious manner. There's no fool's gold here.

Bottom line: CTE connects with a 2x1 table as an outlier in a phenomenal manner unlike any other system. CTE is not your typical spin/your-wheels, nose behind CCB system.

I could master pointing my big toe to the closet diamond to every OB that I shoot but what would I have........just another feel system.

Stan Shuffett

 

[cookie man]

OK, great. I'm happy for you.

So, how about a few videos of a few average players that have bought your DVDs and/or gotten instruction from you demonstrating the system by running some balls? How about Cookie? Low500? Mirza? For starters.

I thought I was seeing it in action when I played John, but you disavowed him.

Lou Figueroa

This guy wants video's after years and years of saying videos dont prove anything,lol.
After all YOU wont be able to tell if i am using or not

 

[cookie man]

Lets not forget where Lou ends up after he feels spunky enough to donate money to a tournament once or twice a year.

He's known as Mr. TWO and OUT.

That's his "travels" around the country where he asks everyone in the room if they know about CTE or use it. LMAO

Thats Lou, two and out. Then questions every player as to whether they use CTE.

 

[cookie man]

Concerning change:

I love our game. I'm as passionate as one can be about pool. I have played for nearly a lifetime. I began playing pool at age 8 59 years ago. I developed a strong enough game to suit a lot of folks but not myself. I struggled year after year after year with fundamentals to include the visual domain. As a working stiff, I accepted that that I just had to put the hours in in order to minimize my struggles. I played a game that I loved thinking that I could never realize my fullest potential-physically and visually. Just not enough hours in the day for keeping my roller coaster feel ride intact. I finally saw the light!

I had the wrong mind set. Once I had the insight that CTE might solve my quest for understanding how to really SEE and ALIGN, I set out to explore with 110% of my being to include every cell in my body. CTE was my vehicle for my journey. Guess what? I reached my destination of learning how to really see and align for enabling me to reach my fullest potential---visually and subsequently physical. I am so glad that I won't die having not experienced the pure joy of knowing how to really see pool balls for alignment. I'm going to pass it along to others in the name of Hal Houle. There's millions as I type this post spinning their wheels with this very thing and I'm not going to hide the info from anyone even if I do get kicked around like a junkyard dog.

Stan Shuffett

Similar story here although i am letting you totally develop CTE and just following your lead. Life happens so i could never play enough to reach my full potential. I played for about 30 years just guessing where to aim and i wasn't that bad at it either. But i changed about 9 years ago at the age of 48 and so glad i did. Everything about aiming and ball reactions is so much clearer now.

 

[cookie man]

I understand and respect your passion for pool. I have non-pool-playing friends that occasionally ask, "Do you still play pool?" I smile and say yes, but in my head I'm saying, "Hell yes! Why would I ever stop!" Lol. I have pool-playing friends that can't believe I've never lost my passion for playing, not once in 30+ years. So I truly understand where you are coming from.

I think what creates skepticism when it comes to CTE is the fact you admittedly have been obsessed with getting to the heart of it, spending years and years trying to perfect and analyze the workings of it. Such a timeframe gives one the idea that maybe you've programmed your brain to eventually make the system work, and that's why there's a learning curve for newbies that begin the CTE journey. It may just be that reprogramming the brain to see things differently as you say, is what takes the most work/time. I can see that. But I can also see the skeptical side, thinking maybe that what you consider objective is actually years of subjective training that eventually came to feel objective to you, though new players lack your sense of objectivity because they haven't developed it yet through their own subjective process.

Regardless of tag words such as "objective" or "subjective", any aiming method can become as automatic as turning a door knob if a player dedicates the practice time. So I have no doubts that CTE works excellent for those who devote themselves to it.

Or maybe it's the complete opposite. Maybe it's so objective, so perfect, that no one should have been able to even conceive the notion of it. Except Hal Houle did. But he only gave Stan the framework to start with. From there Stan has broken it down and is putting it all out there in writing to be forever documented. I know enough and have used it enough to realize that it is indeed perfect. I've hit enough tough shots that go absolutely center pocket to be a believer.

 

[Mirza]

Good post. This is probably why I have trouble understanding the final CCB solution. I see the perceptions, but not the center alignment. So I don't get it. Sometimes I make a ball and think "Wow, I got it!". But then the more I work around the perceptions I realize I'm just guessing/estimating where to place my bridge hand and where final CCB is. I could do it for several weeks I suppose and get a better feel for it, but I surely don't think that's right because it's not supposed be a developed feel.

Besides, if I'm going to invest a lot of time into my game, it's going to be spent strengthening my developed skills, not completely overhauling them. For a younger player maybe change is easier, but not for me. Just thought it'd be neat to be able to understand CTE or figure it out. I have a bunch of those old metal puzzle contraptions in my pool room, along with rubics cubes and triangles, etc... and when friends come over I watch them struggle with those things, and I think that's what I must look like with CTE. Lol. It's a puzzle I'd like to solve. That's it. I'm not out to bash or disrespect your work.

Ok, if you think that you see the perceptions correctly tell me this, you have two shots that are different angle, but concerning CTE they are both 15° perceptions, when you get that 15° CTE perception on both shots that are different angle, is the CB-OB overlap the same or different?

 

[Bobkitty]

Concerning change:

I love our game. I'm as passionate as one can be about pool. I have played for nearly a lifetime. I began playing pool at age 8 59 years ago. I developed a strong enough game to suit a lot of folks but not myself. I struggled year after year after year with fundamentals to include the visual domain. As a working stiff, I accepted that that I just had to put the hours in in order to minimize my struggles. I played a game that I loved thinking that I could never realize my fullest potential-physically and visually. Just not enough hours in the day for keeping my roller coaster feel ride intact. I finally saw the light!

I had the wrong mind set. Once I had the insight that CTE might solve my quest for understanding how to really SEE and ALIGN, I set out to explore with 110% of my being to include every cell in my body. CTE was my vehicle for my journey. Guess what? I reached my destination of learning how to really see and align for enabling me to reach my fullest potential---visually and subsequently physical. I am so glad that I won't die having not experienced the pure joy of knowing how to really see pool balls for alignment. I'm going to pass it along to others in the name of Hal Houle. There's millions as I type this post spinning their wheels with this very thing and I'm not going to hide the info from anyone even if I do get kicked around like a junkyard dog.

Stan Shuffett

Indeed, your passion for pool has me interested. I'm late in AZB, but who was Hal Houle? A professional, a teacher, etc? How did everyone get interested in his work?

 

[stan shuffett]

Indeed, your passion for pool has me interested. I'm late in AZB, but who was Hal Houle? A professional, a teacher, etc? How did everyone get interested in his work?

Hal was a man's man, honest and full of integrity. And a verteran!! He loved his country!!
Hal was a husband to Sunny, a father to Mark and a grandfather. I witnessed first-hand the love that threaded through his close-knit family. He absolutely hung the moon to his little granddaughter. He also shared a great love with his family dog, Blackie as I remember.

Hal loved pool. He had an unusual thirst for wanting to know how to really aim. He went on the on road with Ralph Greenleaf thinking he would gain the knowledge that he aspired to have. No luck, though, as Greenleaf had no clue how he aimed. So, Hal set out to solve aiming on his own and during a few decades of doing so he purportedly developed 47 different systems of which CTE was his ultimate.

Yes, Hal did teach for a number of years....in pool rooms and by way of the telephone.

Stan Shuffett

 

[Bobkitty]

Hal was a man's man, honest and full of integrity. And a verteran!! He loved his country!!
Hal was a husband to Sunny, a father to Mark and a grandfather. I witnessed first-hand the love that threaded through his close-knit family. He absolutely hung the moon to his little granddaughter. He also shared a great love with his family dog, Blackie as I remember.

Hal loved pool. He had an unusual thirst for wanting to know how to really aim. He went on the on road with Ralph Greenleaf thinking he would gain the knowledge that he aspired to have. No luck, though, as Greenleaf had no clue how he aimed. So, Hal set out to solve aiming on his own and during a few decades of doing so he purportedly developed 47 different systems of which CTE was his ultimate.

Yes, Hal did teach for a number of years....in pool rooms and by way of the telephone.

Stan Shuffett

Thanks, and you lived in the same town?

 

[stan shuffett]

Thanks, and you lived in the same town?

No, Hal's roots were in California. His son Mark moved to PA. Hal and Sonny relocated in during their latter years to be in close proximity to Mark's family.
I first started communicating with Hal when he was in California. He had placed me on one his his cross country road trip stops for seeing and working with Landon. That trip did not materialize as Hal's legs became a mobility issue.
My time with Hal, along with Landon, was after he had moved to PA.

Stan Shuffett

 

[Bobkitty]

No, Hal's roots were in California. His son Mark moved to PA. Hal and Sonny relocated in during their latter years to be in close proximity to Mark's family.
I first started communicating with Hal when he was in California. He had placed me on one his his cross country road trip stops for seeing and working with Landon. That trip did not materialize as Hal's legs became a mobility issue.
My time with Hal, along with Landon, was after he had moved to PA.

Stan Shuffett

Thanks again. I am so curious how you found out about him in California?

 

[stan shuffett]

Thanks again. I am so curious how you found out about him in California?

Hal would post in pool forums and freely give out his phone number for those that were interested in how to really aim to give him a call. He likely logged more pool conversion time by phone than anyone that ever lived.

Stan Shuffett

 

[Bobkitty]

Hal would post in pool forums and freely give out his phone number for those that were interested in how to really aim to give him a call. He likely logged more pool conversion time by phone than anyone that ever lived.

Stan Shuffett

Excellent! thanks so much!