pendulum stroke

I would like to see some slow motion videos of the top pros to see how they shoot when they are putting extreme top and bottom on a ball and see how there body moves if anybody has a link to any vids or is able to do this that would be awesome.

I think being able to see what really happens would help.:D
 
Try to play in a tuxedo it will limit you range of motion and force you to use a loose grip to get action.:groucho:
 
dr9ball said:
I noticed that. I've also seen people run out playing one handed jack up. Would you recommend everyone play like that???


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There are reasons why top players do these type of things that run counter to some instructors way of instruction/playing.

I don't think it should be discounted.

Credit should be given for these unique techniques and understood better than suggesting "We don't deny that you can learn to play well using poor fundamentals. It just takes longer and it's not as effective". That's BS. They DEVELOP these "idiosyncracies" because they WORK WELL and it helps them to play better pool.

I didn't see anyone in the tournament playing one handed/jacked up. Can you send me a link? Maybe I missed that one. :D
 
Agree,

usualy you try to *keep it simple* in pool- to get as many things repeatable as possible. Why just not starting here with the fundamentals?

keep it simple-that s the key. And with a Pendulum-Stroke you can physically keep it very simple with a proper setup position.

lg
Ingo
 
Got to go with JoeyA on this one. His observation is actually brilliant!!!

A lot of players make certain shots because of their idiosyncrasies and not despite of them.

If you try to change a player and fix those idiosyncrasies you destroy the player by taking away his natural abilities and self correcting mechanisms.
Everyone is different and our brains work a little differently.
Hand/eye coordination is a tricky thing and it is best to leave it alone because what is proper for one is not for the other.
 
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randyg said:
OK, now we are getting some place. What is your definition of a "stroke"?
randyg
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Joey A and Wolven said it better than I ever could. Everyone's stroke is a little different. Although improvement can happen with alot of practice and a little guidance, trying to mold everyone into a single one-size-fits-all is counter productive.
 
Mitchxout said:
Joey A and Wolven said it better than I ever could. Everyone's stroke is a little different. Although improvement can happen with alot of practice and a little guidance, trying to mold everyone into a single one-size-fits-all is counter productive.
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and your definition of a Stroke is.....?
randyg
 
dr9ball said:
I noticed that. I've also seen people run out playing one handed jack up. Would you recommend everyone play like that???


:)
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Did they play like that getting to the finals of the world 9-ball championship?
 
Technically stroke is the final swing forward.

But for me it is the full cycle: final stop & lock, backswing, stop, forward swing and stay.

Everything else is a pre-stroke, which may or may not be necessary depending on the player.
 
Tony_in_MD said:
If it was my question I would have taken the word of a BCA master instructor. (Randy G) The only way for anyone to diagnose what is happening is for you to post a video. Without that all the advise you get are just opinions. Posting this on the main forum you may get 100 different opinions, with no clear cut answer.

Post a video, it is worth a million words.
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Scott Lee said:
...or seek out a qualified instructor to actually SEE what's going on with his stroke. That, imo, would be the quickest path to "fix" the problem (assuming there is one).

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
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or ask everyone until you get the answer you want
 
Scott Lee said:
...or seek out a qualified instructor to actually SEE what's going on with his stroke.
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It doesn't even need to be that complicated. Just get a small video camera and put it behind you. Even most small point and shoot digitals usually have a video mode, or even a cell phone.

(In other words, most people have something that can be used to shoot video these days.)

Nothing will do more for your stroke, cheaper, than being able to consistently video yourself shooting.
 
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