Perfect Aim

Thanks Joey

JoeyA said:
You're welcome to disagree any time Nathan. I don't take your post personally and you haven't offended me.

Personally, I don't think HOW MUCH A PERSON POSTS has anything to do with how valuable of a poster they are.

I see that your priorities are not even similar to mine. I care a great deal how well somone plays.

I come to this forum not only to fraternize with my AZBilliards members but also to learn and I learn a great deal from people who play well. So since the forum is growing daily and new members are being added all of the time, most of the time they are people who are just getting started in pool and are also looking to learn.

The presence of better players stimulates interest on the pool community's part. It's great to see Tiger Woods swinging that club even if his wife swings a meaner one. (I take the good with the bad as long as there is some good.)

Some people add little pool knowledge to the forum and only use the forum to hawk their products and services. That irks me too but Gene has offered FAR MORE HELP TO members of this forum than anyone gives him credit for. I would venture to say that Gene has provided lots of quality information that has absolutely NOTHING TO DO WITH PERFECT AIM.

Good players don't always offer valuable pieces of information that pertain to pool but I am willing to accept whatever information that I glean from their posts.

I also like the fact that other people IN THIS FORUM get the benefit of the top players' experience and knowledge.

JoeyA
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Okay. I just started doing the Allison Fisher thing. Alignment strokes, smooth strokes, then .... just before I pull the trigger ... a purposeful, long pause before starting the final stroke at the cue ball.

Hey. It seemed to significantly improve my ball pocketing. Anyone want to comment on WHY this might be true?

Hi there,

The pause is huge on the break. It allows you so focus all your energy and coordinate your body to do what you are trying to do.

And when you pause you want to make sure you are stareing at the head ball.


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Still in Nov.

pocketspeed said:
dont worry joeya, i dont expect anything at all from you. from what i have seen you like to argue plenty. i am not jealous of gene. he's a fine pool player. i am not, i will never be. come up short on the natural talent side. doesnt mean i dont love the game though. or that i am a huge pool fan. no apology to gene due. he has contributed little to this forum other than his constant sales pitch. if you think otherwise you are entitled to your opinion of course.
brian
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When you aim the break ............... - 11-12-2009, 01:38 AM

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Not trying to start a "post war" so don't misunderstand, but I have to ask so I can learn something.

Most or everything (I just read focus on the head ball so I can't say everything) I read or hear about breaking says to look at the cue ball last.

I do focus last on the 2nd ball for 8 ball but not the head ball than it's the cue ball.

When you aim the break and you address the cue ball. Make sure you have the cue close to the cue ball. While you are aiming you want to hold everything still. Don't be stroking your cue until you are all done aiming.

Now the cue is exactly where you want it. You don't have to worry about it as much. Now your focus is on the head ball and you go back and forth doing any small adjustments that you think you need to do.

When you pull the trigger though you definitely want to be looking it the head ball .

Imagine this. We are going to throw a spear. The target is 100 feet away. When you are throwing the spear you would pause on your bringing it back. Then when you throw it I guarantee you will be looking at the target right to the end of you letting it go. Even on the very end if you thought it wasn't quite right you would try to do a last second correction. This would be a mistake because it is almost too late to correct.

The same with a pool cue except that we are doing it underhand. If the shot doesn't look quite right we might try to correct when it is too late. This is why we jump or twist or shoot to hard or too soft sometimes. We don't even know what's wrong but it doesn't look right. But you do need to look at the object ball and the head ball when you pull the trigger.

I don't know who would try to teach players to look at the cue ball last. I would question their ability because I don't think they really got it going on.

I just gave a young man a lesson at the Brickyard in Indy. He just sent me a PM telling me that it is working out alot better looking at the object ball when he strokes. I just noticed he was doing this during the lesson and knew we had to correct this before we went any further.

Anyway Good luck Thanks for the input......Geno.........:wink::grin-square:
 
Gene,

By quoting pocketspeed's post, it seems clear that you're trying your best to prove him wrong by contributing to the forum. I respect that effort.

However posting 15 times in a row about aiming related Q&A only helps to back up pocketspeed's statement further. The information you post may be very useful, but considering that it's ALL aiming related, it looks like nothing more than an elongated sales pitch.

If you want to prove him wrong, try contributing to other threads, regarding other topics (with no mention of anything related to aim). Being a highly skilled player, I'm sure you have many tips and tricks that could be discussed that address different aspects of the game.

Cheers,

Nathan
 
nathandumoulin said:
Gene,

By quoting pocketspeed's post, it seems clear that you're trying your best to prove him wrong by contributing to the forum. I respect that effort.

However posting 15 times in a row about aiming related Q&A only helps to back up pocketspeed's statement further. The information you post may be very useful, but considering that it's ALL aiming related, it looks like nothing more than an elongated sales pitch.

If you want to prove him wrong, try contributing to other threads, regarding other topics (with no mention of anything related to aim). Being a highly skilled player, I'm sure you have many tips and tricks that could be discussed that address different aspects of the game.

Cheers,

Nathan
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That's just for Nov. If you want to see all of them just look for yourself. You'll find all kinds of different topics. I don't understand why some people on here talk before they think.

They say bad things about people they don't even know about. If you go back and look you'll see plenty. I only went back about 20 days. I just want to show how rediculous his statement is that I don't contribute. I have and I will continue.

I don't go on anyone elses thread and try to bash them. It doesn't make any sense to me. I just try to help. And I have.

Sorry you feel like you need to defend something like this.

I'm sure your a nice guy. Your just on the wrong side of the fence right now.

Good night. :cool::rolleyes:
 
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ah someone who understands

nathandumoulin said:
Gene,

By quoting pocketspeed's post, it seems clear that you're trying your best to prove him wrong by contributing to the forum. I respect that effort.

However posting 15 times in a row about aiming related Q&A only helps to back up pocketspeed's statement further. The information you post may be very useful, but considering that it's ALL aiming related, it looks like nothing more than an elongated sales pitch.

If you want to prove him wrong, try contributing to other threads, regarding other topics (with no mention of anything related to aim). Being a highly skilled player, I'm sure you have many tips and tricks that could be discussed that address different aspects of the game.

Cheers,

Nathan
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thanks for getting my point nathan. and gene thanks for making mine.

gene if you feel i have besearched your good name, thats unfortunate. i have merely pointed out the truth (which sometimes hurts) of how your posts are perceived by many here on the forum.

further i have purposely not done anything to knock your business by not providing my detailed thoughts about my perfect aim experience (not that too many pple would care one way or another, but that is what the OP wanted to know).

you are easy to listen to and seem pretty witty and prolly have more to offer this forum than just pushing your product and jumping into aiming threads. maybe you could make it your "perfect aim" to be a more well rounded contributor? and maybe just mayby lay off the constant sales pitch?

brian
 
im gonna give Genomachino some Green for setting that record....

if i wasnt confused about what the benifits of watching Geno's DVD are before.....im positive that id be really confused by now.
 
nathandumoulin said:
Gene,

By quoting pocketspeed's post, it seems clear that you're trying your best to prove him wrong by contributing to the forum. I respect that effort.

However posting 15 times in a row about aiming related Q&A only helps to back up pocketspeed's statement further. The information you post may be very useful, but considering that it's ALL aiming related, it looks like nothing more than an elongated sales pitch.

If you want to prove him wrong, try contributing to other threads, regarding other topics (with no mention of anything related to aim). Being a highly skilled player, I'm sure you have many tips and tricks that could be discussed that address different aspects of the game.

Cheers,

Nathan
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I'm starting to see a trend here with you and Pocketspeed.

Gene finds some posts where he has provided valuable information on all kinds of pool subjects to prove that pocketspeed (brian) doesn't know what he is talking about as far as Gene not contributing anything of value to the forum...............
and then NathanDumoulin, the fellow "who only comes to the forum to have fun and not to learn from top players", proudly gets another chance to push his DVD sales with his signature line.

You know Nathan, you complain about Gene's advertising his product but you do it on EVERY POST OF YOURS.

Not only that, but you start raffle threads to (advertise your product) and encourage posters to send in multiple posts (I think you mentioned that individual posters send in HUNDREDS OF POSTS to win your DVD raffle). That's not what Gene does, is it?

The truth is that your raffles don't bother me, nor does your signature graphic (which is quite professionally done). Normally I just pass them by. I did once provide my token sign on to show my appreciation for your efforts.

If you were an instructor or someone who had pool information that could be of benefit to the forum I would expect that you make fair contributions to the forum in exchange for advertising your product or services.

I think Gene has shown you and Pocktspeed brian that he makes LOTS of posts that HELP OTHER FORUM MEMBERS WITH THEIR GAME.

Gene has paid his dues to the forum and CONTINUES TO PAY HIS DUES.

As to you and Pocketspeed brian paying your dues..... well that's a different story for another thread.

(I've actually wondered about Pocketspeed's contribution to the forum as well as yours but it hasn't bothered me enough to ask just what it is that you contribute to the forum and it probably won't in the future.)

Sorry, I have to leave now and go practice PERFECT AIM BY Genomachino. :smile:

JoeyA
 
JoeyA said:
I'm starting to see a trend here with you and Pocketspeed.

Gene finds some posts where he has provided valuable information on all kinds of pool subjects to prove that pocketspeed (brian) doesn't know what he is talking about as far as Gene not contributing anything of value to the forum...............
and then NathanDumoulin, the fellow "who only comes to the forum to have fun and not to learn from top players", proudly gets another chance to push his DVD sales with his signature line.

You know Nathan, you complain about Gene's advertising his product but you do it on EVERY POST OF YOURS.

Not only that, but you start raffle threads to (advertise your product) and encourage posters to send in multiple posts (I think you mentioned that individual posters send in HUNDREDS OF POSTS to win your DVD raffle). That's not what Gene does, is it?

The truth is that your raffles don't bother me, nor does your signature graphic (which is quite professionally done). Normally I just pass them by. I did once provide my token sign on to show my appreciation for your efforts.

If you were an instructor or someone who had pool information that could be of benefit to the forum I would expect that you make fair contributions to the forum in exchange for advertising your product or services.

I think Gene has shown you and Pocktspeed brian that he makes LOTS of posts that HELP OTHER FORUM MEMBERS WITH THEIR GAME.

Gene has paid his dues to the forum and CONTINUES TO PAY HIS DUES.

As to you and Pocketspeed brian paying your dues..... well that's a different story for another thread.

(I've actually wondered about Pocketspeed's contribution to the forum as well as yours but it hasn't bothered me enough to ask just what it is that you contribute to the forum and it probably won't in the future.)

Sorry, I have to leave now and go practice PERFECT AIM BY Genomachino. :smile:

JoeyA
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oh my put in my place by joeya. i am not a useful forum member. i dont contribute anything. i am just going to go out back and shoot myself b/c joeya doesnt think i am useful. i thought you werent here to agrue? its funny but judging by pms received and rep received for my comments in this thread there are apparently forum members who think i have contributed and agree with me.

as for gene, yes i know that not every post of his has been 100% a sales pitch. however my contention was and remains that the vast majority of his posts are directly for selling his product and by far overshadows what ever else gene has contributed.

joeya gene seems like a big boy, able to take care of himself, able to speak for himself. why do you find it necessary to be his knight in shining armor? oh wait thats right as you already pointed out i dont have the right to question you about anything...

brian
 
JoeyA said:
(I've actually wondered about Pocketspeed's contribution to the forum as well as yours but it hasn't bothered me enough to ask just what it is that you contribute to the forum and it probably won't in the future.)

JoeyA
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...you're kidding right?

If you haven't noticed, less than 2 or 3% of my posts have anything to do with my DVDs. I post almost every day with tournament updates, tech help with computer, lighting, and camera questions, as well as try my best to give tips whenever I can. If you are in doubt, do a search with my username for the past week. You'll find 20-30 posts of me helping people solve the WTBC PPV issue that's been common lately.

In doubt, read this: http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=165135

Never once have I started a fight or said anything mean about anyone. Even in this thread, I've merely tried to explain to to Gene why people are giving him such a hard time. Never once did I say a single thing about Gene or the quality of his Product. In turn, you've attacked my credibility.

As for my threads that give away free stuff once every 3-4 months....are you honestly serious? I give away free stuff to the forum. FREE STUFF. What a horrible person I must be. I'm lucky to sell a single set of DVDs from those threads, and in turn you have the audacity to slander me for it. Are you somehow under the false impression that I make tons of money from such things? Clearly you are mistaken.

Lastly, I pay for a membership on this site. I support it, and in return post a little banner for myself. Clearly Mike and Jerry have no problems with that exchange, so who are you to say otherwise?

I'm really surprised by your post Joey....not sure what else to say...:confused:
 
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Some players just don't get it right away........

RD3P said:
im gonna give Genomachino some Green for setting that record....

if i wasnt confused about what the benifits of watching Geno's DVD are before.....im positive that id be really confused by now.
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Hi there RD3P,

I think we would get along pretty good.

I need to explain something. Some players just look at the video and don't really apply it. they just look and must not try to see if it works for them. they convince themselves that it just won't help.

This is why I offer my personal assistance on the phone to anyone that has has purchased the video that has any questions. Sometimes it is hard to learn from any video or a book. And I understand this. I don't think there is anyone in the country that offers a phone call anytime for questions.

Plus, anything players that have purchased Perfect Aim want to ask I will help them with. So this goes far beyond just selling a video. This is making sure that everyone that have bought the Perfect Aim video has the opportunity to learn it even if they can't get it by watching the video.

I can't help players that don't call. I encourage players all the time that if they don't understand something to give me a call but I understand that there are some that just won't call.

That's why all these players that understand it are so defensive about it. Because they know how much better they are playing because of it.

For the people that don't get it they wasted the $80.00 unless they call for some help to understand. I've given the whole lesson over the phone with great success. In fact it is very easy to understand that way.

Thanks for the comments Have a great day geno...............
 
I'm flattered.

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Hi there '

Billy will go down in history as one of the great infomercial guys ever.

He had a few big flops though.

Perfect Aim has proven it's mustard already by the 100's of players that have learned this great method.

Most of them don't put it all over the internet but PM me to tell me how it's helped them. Many of them are winning tournaments all over the place. These are players that have never won anything. This is exciting stuff.

Perfect Aim works and anyone could sell something like this. But if you don't look you can't learn. And if you look but don't see you can't learn either.

Have a great day and thanks again Geno...........
 
nathandumoulin said:
...you're kidding right?

If you haven't noticed, less than 2 or 3% of my posts have anything to do with my DVDs. I post almost every day with tournament updates, tech help with computer, lighting, and camera questions, as well as try my best to give tips whenever I can. If you are in doubt, do a search with my username for the past week. You'll find 20-30 posts of me helping people solve the WTBC PPV issue that's been common lately.

In doubt, read this: http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=165135

Never once have I started a fight or said anything mean about anyone. Even in this thread, I've merely tried to explain to to Gene why people are giving him such a hard time. Never once did I say a single thing about Gene or the quality of his Product. In turn, you've attacked my credibility.

As for my threads that give away free stuff once every 3-4 months....are you honestly serious? I give away free stuff to the forum. FREE STUFF. What a horrible person I must be. I'm lucky to sell a single set of DVDs from those threads, and in turn you have the audacity to slander me for it. Are you somehow under the false impression that I make tons of money from such things? Clearly you are mistaken.

Lastly, I pay for a membership on this site. I support it, and in return post a little banner for myself. Clearly Mike and Jerry have no problems with that exchange, so who are you to say otherwise?

I'm really surprised by your post Joey....not sure what else to say...:confused:
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Hi there Nathan,

Sorry you kind of got dragged into this. many players on here don't know how hard it is to sell a video and try to make some money from it.

When Perfect Aim is doing the best is when I'm on the road goving lessons. Every lesson I give where the player really learns Perfect Aim well, sells me about 5 more within the next few weeks because the player I taught is so darn excited about what they learned that they are telling everyone.

Out of those 5 that only buy the video usually 1 in 5 needs some help to understand it. that is why I offer my personal cell phone to everyone so I can help those that don't quite get it.

AZ billiards is the best site on the web and it is alot of fun but you should know it takes alot of hard work. You can't just go on AZ and sell a million copies of something.

What sells is word of mouth when players get excited about what they see. It don't get any better than that.

I know you understand.

The videos that you did with Mika are the best done videos on the market. I wanted to tell you that. They look like they were done by the top guys in hollywood.

Anyone that wants to do a video should talk to you. from what I can see it doen't get any better.

Have a great day geno................
 
Give me a call

pocketspeed said:
thanks for getting my point nathan. and gene thanks for making mine.

gene if you feel i have besearched your good name, thats unfortunate. i have merely pointed out the truth (which sometimes hurts) of how your posts are perceived by many here on the forum.

further i have purposely not done anything to knock your business by not providing my detailed thoughts about my perfect aim experience (not that too many pple would care one way or another, but that is what the OP wanted to know).

you are easy to listen to and seem pretty witty and prolly have more to offer this forum than just pushing your product and jumping into aiming threads. maybe you could make it your "perfect aim" to be a more well rounded contributor? and maybe just mayby lay off the constant sales pitch?

brian
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Hi there Brian,

How do you not talk about Perfect Aim on a sight that is titled Perfect Aim. I'm as excited about this as the first day I started teaching it. I see it work for everyone that learns and understands it. Unfortuanatly some players are a little harder to teach it to with just the video and those are the ones that need to call me so I can help them. Otherwise it will do them no good if they don't understand it.

If it didn't improve you ability to see the shots correctly and I hope it did, maybe you should give me a call. It's all about playing the game of pool and learning all we can to do the best we can.

715-563-8712 Have a great day Thanks geno............
 
nathandumoulin said:
...you're kidding right?

If you haven't noticed, less than 2 or 3% of my posts have anything to do with my DVDs. I post almost every day with tournament updates, tech help with computer, lighting, and camera questions, as well as try my best to give tips whenever I can. If you are in doubt, do a search with my username for the past week. You'll find 20-30 posts of me helping people solve the WTBC PPV issue that's been common lately.

In doubt, read this: http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=165135

Never once have I started a fight or said anything mean about anyone. Even in this thread, I've merely tried to explain to to Gene why people are giving him such a hard time. Never once did I say a single thing about Gene or the quality of his Product. In turn, you've attacked my credibility.

As for my threads that give away free stuff once every 3-4 months....are you honestly serious? I give away free stuff to the forum. FREE STUFF. What a horrible person I must be. I'm lucky to sell a single set of DVDs from those threads, and in turn you have the audacity to slander me for it. Are you somehow under the false impression that I make tons of money from such things? Clearly you are mistaken.

Lastly, I pay for a membership on this site. I support it, and in return post a little banner for myself. Clearly Mike and Jerry have no problems with that exchange, so who are you to say otherwise?

I'm really surprised by your post Joey....not sure what else to say...:confused:
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Not to worry Nathan. All is good. I don't have time or the desire to check your link references but I'll take your word for it. I like to see people making valuable contributions to the forum whether it is helping someone with their game or some other problem. I also have a lot or respect for people who do the things instead of just saying their going to do things.

No need to be confused Nathan. Gene is a valuable poster on this forum and from time to time, I tend to defend valuable posters whenever I feel it is necessary just to help insure they stay around.

Best Regards,
JoeyA
 
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