Well you have made a lot of cents there.:wink:
Perfect Aim
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Well you have made a lot of cents there.:wink:
Hi there,
With Perfect Aim the thin cuts are the easiest to see and understand. Many players over the years understand how to shoot these but many don't. Just like I say the is only one place to have the eye on this shot to see it absolutely perfect.
The other easy shot is the straight in shot.
Then we go to all the angle shots. There is only one place to have the eyes the same way. You just need to know how to get them there. Why would a player want to keep guessing and keep making the same mistake and keep missing the same shot. It's terrible to get down on a shot and feel you have a 20%chance of making it.
All the other shots are the same way. It's just a little harder to figure out where the perfect spot is. Perfect Aim just takes all the guess work out of it. A person can spend 80 bucks and learn exactly how this all works or you can guess for the rest of your life and probably never know.
You said it all though. The thin cut it's easy. The straight in shot is a little harder but easier. The rest of the shots get easier too once you know how to aim them right with Perferct Aim.
There is also another shot we aim that has not been mentioned and that is aiming at a spot which is aimed totally different from all the others.
It is so fun to learn once you understand how this all works. I hear from players all the time how they can't wait to get to the pool room to practice what they have learned.
Now they can actually improve.
I just got off the phone with MOJOE a fellow AZ'er that was very skeptical about Perferct Aim. I sent him a video so he could see it with the promise he would send me the 80 if he thought it was worth it. He just called me to tell me again I will absolutely get my money. And to tell me how grateful he was for learning Perfect Aim. He's had lessons from other teachers and has all kinds of videos but has never learned anything from anyone like he did from Perfect Aim that helped his game so much.
Mojoe is excited the same as so many players around the country and overseas about what they are learning for the very first time. Perfect Aim is the real deal. It will change the way you play pool forever and make the game more fun than you could ever imagine.
I know you'll see this Joe and I just want to say thanks again.
Thanks for the input 8Pack have a great day geno............
Actually, I made a lot of sense in the entire post, but I didnt expect you to agree with the rest of it :wink:
They naturally did this better than most players. Wether it be from repetition or just natural.
Willie even said a few things here and there that leeds me to believe that he understood some of these things. He obviously had the eyes in the right position or he wouldn't be able to shoot so straight. As do the better pool players today.
It's not rocket science but you need to understand Perfect Aim before you can understand how important it is to your aiming.
When Columbus said he thought the world was round he set out to prove it.
Did you know that for years people still said the world was flat. They just would not believe it. Even after he proved it.
The good news is that Perfect Aim is a little easier to show. You don't have to sail around the world to see if it's true. You just need to open your eyes and of course 80 bucks. Oh my gosh!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Such a small price to pay for such huge knowledge.
Could you imagine if Columbus never took the trip and all of a sudden somebody learned you to fly and finally figured out the world was round. How rediculous would that be.
Well it's way over due for Perfect Aim to come along. Kind of rediculous the same way when you figure the technolgy we have today.
How many years have we stumbled around trying to figure this out and noone had the answer and yet now that someone has there are still so many people that rather than look and see they just want to not look and still say the world is flat. Kind of foolish.
But then again it all depends on your desire for the game. Some players might be more social players and don't care if they don't get any better. To me that's the most important part of the game.
We never stop learning. But if you don't look you can miss alot of stuff.......
Have a great day Geno..................
I agree with just about all of this, especially if you emphasize the part in blue and with the caveat that the best eye position is likely to be somewhat different even for people with the same dominant eye.
But I do have a nit to pick about the part in red - I don't think aiming/sighting in pool is ever just like lining up the sights on a rifle, even if you close your non-dominant eye.
pj
chgo
I don't think closing one eye is very useful in pool because you're almost always trying to align things on two separate lines at once: the CB with the OB and the stick with wherever it should be pointing. Having your eyes above these things is actually helpful to that process, and depth perception, which is best with both eyes, is a key part of coordinating the two.
I think this is a pretty loose definition of the word "aim". Yes, both eyes are usually open when aiming a rifle, but only one eye is used to align the sights with the target.
pj
chgo
Well alright then Dave. I know you are about to be headed my way for the holidays and I look forward to meeting you but right now you're chapping my azz. First off, I do appreciate all of the nice work you have done so don't get the impression that I don't like you. I know you think that others don't like you when they ride you a little bit. With me, it definitely is not the case so that's out of the way too.
The thread was started about PERFECT AIM, not your links that you so kindly took the opportunity to throw in for good measure.
What you may consider useful or not useful is your own personal business and that's fine with me.
It isn't often that someone of Gene's caliber of play comes on this GD forum willing to tell a GD thing about what they do and how they do it.
I don't care if what Gene says doesn't make sense to you, my friend Patrick or my friend RandyG, I like the fact that Gene posts on this forum on a regular basis and snide remarks and innuendos about how useful information is or is not is a proven method to chase people like Gene away from this forum. If you don't like what Gene or anyone else has to say and don't view it as useful information THEN DON'T READ IT.
When Patrick starts writing equations that gives me cramps, I struggle to follow his thinking and his explanations in spite of my inability to understand his high end mathematical equations. When it gets too deep for me I QUIT READING. If what Gene says is too deep for you to comprehend or too shallow for you to comprehend, please just quit reading. At least let those of us who VALUE what Gene has to say to continue reading his posts without your continuous negative input.
When I read posts like yours I get the impression that you want people reading yours links and not reading information that Gene is willing to share.
There just aren't that many people who play at Gene's level willing to post on this forum with any regularity and even fewer who are making an attempt to share any of their insights.
I would like to see Gene continue making posts on this forum. I think, no, I know it is good for my game and don't care what brand of kool-aid he is offering; I'm going to sip it until I CHOOSE TO NO LONGER DRINK IT. I don't want you or anyone else to tell me what is useful and what is not.
So if you want to start a thread about your links, please do so, just don't inhibit my chances of learning something that might just come from Gene's posts.
Sorry for the rant but I still look forward to meeting you this holiday season. Just remember, I will be looking for you to teach me something that will help my game, not stimulate my dull mind. It's ok if your information stimulates my dull mind but it must also help my game.
Just show me and the rest of the posters on this forum a little Christmas spirit and let Santa Geno ho-ho-ho all he wants.
And Cowboy..... you rest up that pony, he's all tuckered out.
JoeyA
Geno I use to sell Second Generation TEFLON Cookwear at the LA County Fair for a couple of season, did real well at it, made lots of money, so I understand the "PITCH", and getting the "MARKS EXCITED".
Efrin "BANTA" Reyes seems to play real well like Willie Mosconi, & Willie Hoppie, and they do it without your DVD. I know their secret, and it is NFS. It is Practice, and Table Time.
Efrin "BANTA" Reyes seems to play real well like Willie Mosconi, & Willie Hoppie, and they do it without your DVD. I know their secret, and it is NFS. It is Practice, and Table Time.
Hi there pj,
I guess it isn't exactly like aiming a rifle but what I was trying to say was just like the rifle the sight has to be in line with the target or you are off target. When it's in line it looks real good.
Once you have found this spot where the natural sight is for that shot you can see that the shot is lined up right and it looks like you can't miss it. There is no sight like on a rifle but when you learn how to find this perfect spot playing pool the shot looks real good. This is what we all want. This is why somedays we feel like we can't miss. You are naturally getting to this spot better. With Perfect Aim you can learn how to get there all the time.
Have a great day Geno..............
Apparently you mean that you should position your eyes so you're looking along the line between the CB and OB contact points. Am I interpreting you correctly?
There has been a fair amount of discussion about whether or not this is best, considering that you also have to align your stick correctly and it usually has to point in another direction. Some say it's best to sight along the contact points line, some say it's best to sight along the stick, others say it's best to compromise the two, still others say it's different for different kinds of shots (thicker vs. thinner, sidespin vs. centerball, etc.), and yet others say it's different for different players.
I think this is an important aspect of aiming that should get more attention, but I'm skeptical that there's a one-size-fits-all solution. If all you do is focus players on this issue and help them understand it, you've done something useful. If you've also found a way to help them quickly and easily find their own personal solutions without dictating too much, then you've done something valuable.
pj
chgo
If you know the secret then why don't you play like them?, it takes natural talent also you should add in there, some have it and some do not.
Maybe I'm missing something, but I thought Dave was trying to add to the thread, not distract from it. To me the stuff he linked seems like useful related info that adds depth to the discussion.
Maybe you don't like the fact that lots of Dave's posts seem like he's "steering" people to his website, but I think of him like those useful hyperlinks you see in many internet articles (you know, the highlighted words you can click on to see some related background info) - if you're not interested in following the links you don't have to (sound familiar?), and it would be nice if Dave didn't have to make special posts to give us the option, but that's not how AZB works. I'm sorry if it annoys you (maybe you have your own reasons), but I'm glad he does it.
pj
chgo
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I don't think closing one eye is very useful in pool because you're almost always trying to align things on two separate lines at once: the CB with the OB and the stick with wherever it should be pointing. Having your eyes above these things is actually helpful to that process, and depth perception, which is best with both eyes, is a key part of coordinating the two.
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IMO, once the bridge position is established, the alignment of the stick is nearly exclusively proprioceptive. The only thing you need depth perception for in aiming is to avoid fouling by accidently hitting the CB with warm-up strokes. This is why you can look at the OB last. Your brain and body know where the stick is in space so you don't have to be looking at it.
I don't think closing one eye is very useful in pool because you're almost always trying to align things on two separate lines at once: the CB with the OB and the stick with wherever it should be pointing. Having your eyes above these things is actually helpful to that process, and depth perception, which is best with both eyes, is a key part of coordinating the two.
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IMO, once the bridge position is established, the alignment of the stick is nearly exclusively proprioceptive. The only thing you need depth perception for in aiming is to avoid fouling by accidently hitting the CB with warm-up strokes. This is why you can look at the OB last. Your brain and body know where the stick is in space so you don't have to be looking at it.
Hi there Lenny,
You're so right. But it sure if fun to be the best we can be. Most players aren't even close to their potential. They do everything they do really well. Baseball,soccer,bowling and many other sports but they just can't seem to get it right with pool.
You wouldn't believe how many of these players I have shown Perfect Aim to and their reaction was just WOW. That is it.
Have a great day geno...................
joeya feel better now that you got that out of your system? this kind of post hurts your credibility imo. for one thing the OP was asking for opinions of folks that had tried perfect aim. i dont believe the intent was for gene to start another lengthy sales pitch (which he had no problem doing). dave has the same right to post in this thread as gene and isnt certainly not so blatant about pitching his own stuff as gene who apparently knows no shame. as for gene contributing to this forum answer me this question: if you sorted out all of genes posts and then calculated the percentage of them that were mostly self promoting of his product what do you think that would be? 90, 95, 98%? sure it would. whats more despite his fine playing ability he is not on here sharing his knowledge, he is on here selling it (rather expensively i might add). i think its prolly genes constant sales pitch that some (many?) forum members find so irritating. and gene just so you know just b/c a lot of pple have purchased your product doesnt necessarily mean anything other than youre a good sales man.
brian
Guess What. pool shot is one eye also.
I could NEVER spread enough rep around to give you the green you deserve :bow-down:
woody i'm not sure that joeya deserves any rep for his post. i dont really understand why he feels like he has to defend gene all the time. i'm sorry but most of his "contribution" to this forum is just his schtick. if gene was chased away by his naysayers would the forum really be diminished? however if he left he would prolly be cutting of his single best source of revenue b/c if as gene claimed in one of his earlier posts "perfect aim" really is the best selling instructional pool dvd right now its is ONLY b/c of his incessant sales pitch here an AZB. at least he bought a membership.
brian