phil dade
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Sorry... not impressed. I have hung around at times with many people "bigger" than people in your photos. But unlike you, I don't feel the need to take photos, and or selfies with people. It does not make me feel any more important, and I rely on my knowledge, not on who I know.
The day I need to take pictures to show people who I am is the day someone please shoot me.
JV
The day I need to take pictures to show people who I am is the day someone please shoot me.
JV
Joe-
far be it from me to tell you anything about anything-
you single handedly, super-sleuthed the Balabushka thread and weeded out the feckless, whelp who hijacked it.
Bully for you!
You challenged me essentially with not having any merit.
I had no desire to dispute your vault of encyclopedic knowledge.
Make sure you ice those shoulders,
I'm sure they get pretty sore from patting yourself on the back.
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far be it from me to tell you anything about anything-
you single handedly, super-sleuthed the Balabushka thread and weeded out the feckless, whelp who hijacked it.
Bully for you!
You challenged me essentially with not having any merit.
I had no desire to dispute your vault of encyclopedic knowledge.
Make sure you ice those shoulders,
I'm sure they get pretty sore from patting yourself on the back.
BANG, BANG, BANG!!! Johnnyt
BTW I don't need to buy myself a clue. You made the same uneducated Balabushka comment a few months ago, and were told then, just like now, the market existed before the movie. There is plenty of merit, and now we know, history.
Like I said, stick to your movie.
Hopefully your movie will stand on its own and not need to lean on TCOM, or Balabushka's, as your posting history does.
JV
Like I said, stick to your movie.
Hopefully your movie will stand on its own and not need to lean on TCOM, or Balabushka's, as your posting history does.
JV
You may just need-
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You may just need to slow down while reading.
So, that I'm clear, what you're telling me is Joe,
That there was a market for Balabushka cues before the film-
I know this to be fact and agree with you.
Now please tell me that mentioning Balabushka in TCOM didn't drive the demand WAYYY up.
When James Bond looks at his Omega watch and the camera stays on the shot-
that doesn't drive sales of Omega?
Who does business with you?
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You may just need to slow down while reading.
So, that I'm clear, what you're telling me is Joe,
That there was a market for Balabushka cues before the film-
I know this to be fact and agree with you.
Now please tell me that mentioning Balabushka in TCOM didn't drive the demand WAYYY up.
When James Bond looks at his Omega watch and the camera stays on the shot-
that doesn't drive sales of Omega?
Who does business with you?
No, the ENTIRE pool boom drove the demand up. The movie helped EVERYONE in the game at that time. That is what you fail to comprehend. The movie caused a unilateral explosion, not only Balabushka's went up, but Palmers, Muecci's, Gina's, SW's, Szamboti's, table sales, room openings.. all of this, caused by a boom time in pool.
Balabushka was used as a name because it was THE name in cues for players. I believe if no cue was named, it would have happened exactly the same way.
I travel a lot, people always ask if I saw TCOM (Dumbest question I get asked by peers) I don't believe one of the few hundred people I talk with, could name the cue that gets mentioned. So really, I believe that only pool people care about that aspect of the movie.
I was 20 in and playing pool 1986, out of curiosity what were you doing?
JV
Balabushka was used as a name because it was THE name in cues for players. I believe if no cue was named, it would have happened exactly the same way.
I travel a lot, people always ask if I saw TCOM (Dumbest question I get asked by peers) I don't believe one of the few hundred people I talk with, could name the cue that gets mentioned. So really, I believe that only pool people care about that aspect of the movie.
I was 20 in and playing pool 1986, out of curiosity what were you doing?
JV
Since you have asked.. I will tell you what I think drove the Balabushka (cue) craze. In the 1960's, those "normal" people who were at pool rooms, eventually went to school, started successful careers. When 1986 hits 20 years later, they are in their 40's and have money. THEY start buying cues that they had when they were younger, or couldn't afford when they were younger. This is what drove up the Balabushka prices, they came back and remember there were only 1200 made. So the demand was high and the supply was low. I would say less than 5% of Bushka sales were because someone saw the movie and remembered the name.
JV
JV
Joe, I must have bought #1201! Btw, in 1966 I was running the clock, Grandview Plaza Cue and Cushion, Florissant, Mo, holding the $ while Blackie LeSuer, owner, gave Fats 8-7 alternate break. I was 17-18. Fats never won.
Phil
We're in agreeance-
There's nothing wrong with my comprehension-
We both concur that TCOM
(as did it's predecessor "The Hustler"20 years prior)
buoyed the wave that the entire billiard industry rode- Wunderbar!
Finally some common ground...
I had been playing for a year at that time.
Yes memories and time are indeed powerful drivers of retail.
Again brother, I have no issue with any of things you put forth.
As you think I am oblivious, which is fine,
When I have a question, I go to the experts to answer it.
As I have most of the same connections as you and maybe more, you would think that a little professional courtesy would come into play.
You had to get your knowledge somewhere, right?
I get mine from the source.
You've disparaged me repeatedly, very unjust and unnecessary.
I'll only conclude this with-
Everything is connected to pool-and is therefore a topic that is touched on or delved into for the film.
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There's nothing wrong with my comprehension-
We both concur that TCOM
(as did it's predecessor "The Hustler"20 years prior)
buoyed the wave that the entire billiard industry rode- Wunderbar!
Finally some common ground...
I had been playing for a year at that time.
Yes memories and time are indeed powerful drivers of retail.
Again brother, I have no issue with any of things you put forth.
As you think I am oblivious, which is fine,
When I have a question, I go to the experts to answer it.
As I have most of the same connections as you and maybe more, you would think that a little professional courtesy would come into play.
You had to get your knowledge somewhere, right?
I get mine from the source.
You've disparaged me repeatedly, very unjust and unnecessary.
I'll only conclude this with-
Everything is connected to pool-and is therefore a topic that is touched on or delved into for the film.
In 1987 I watched Leonard Bludworth buy Jimmy Matayas Balabushka at a tournament and then put it up for sale for 2500.00 ,sure wish I had bought it.
The fact is what it is.
You pretentiously posted an ad in a thread where someone wanted a Balabushka price. Not only did you post it once, you posted it again, saying "oops" forgot the pictures... instead of editing your original post. You ask me for professional courtesy, sure, do the same.
Let me give you a little advice.. instead of promoting your movie, and AV cues in a thread where there was no reason, or no relativeness. Put Andy's set of cues in the CUE GALLERY where they BELONG, and where people can see and appreciate them. Andy deserves better than to be thrust into a thread regarding Balabushka prices.
AZ was nice enough to split the boards into sub-forums, IMHO they should be utilized.
You should also consider putting links to your videos in your signature file. Again, good luck with the movie, I believe anything that is positively received for pool is good.
JV
You pretentiously posted an ad in a thread where someone wanted a Balabushka price. Not only did you post it once, you posted it again, saying "oops" forgot the pictures... instead of editing your original post. You ask me for professional courtesy, sure, do the same.
Let me give you a little advice.. instead of promoting your movie, and AV cues in a thread where there was no reason, or no relativeness. Put Andy's set of cues in the CUE GALLERY where they BELONG, and where people can see and appreciate them. Andy deserves better than to be thrust into a thread regarding Balabushka prices.
AZ was nice enough to split the boards into sub-forums, IMHO they should be utilized.
You should also consider putting links to your videos in your signature file. Again, good luck with the movie, I believe anything that is positively received for pool is good.
JV
Quote from other thread. So, if there was a film that featured every aspect of pool/billiards from it's beauty,
to it's problems and the champions who play to survive to the cue makers who build the weapons we use on the table, we may have another wave of interest to drive pool again!
That film is "Raising the Hustler" and these are the series 4 of 4, full-splice,
"Raising the Hustler" cues by Avs Cueshop!
Is this documentary (?), movie (?) in release? If so, where can it be seen?
Thanks,
Jerry
to it's problems and the champions who play to survive to the cue makers who build the weapons we use on the table, we may have another wave of interest to drive pool again!
That film is "Raising the Hustler" and these are the series 4 of 4, full-splice,
"Raising the Hustler" cues by Avs Cueshop!
Is this documentary (?), movie (?) in release? If so, where can it be seen?
Thanks,
Jerry
Well, we all know who made Herman's cues shoot up in value...
http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j...=ANJ70MlJErlGjURKz8HPKg&bvm=bv.90491159,d.aWw
Luca owned and used a number of Gus' cues and as we all know, Luca never played pool.