de luna lost to navarrete in a total choke show
it seems big name pinoys struggle in the home country
it seems big name pinoys struggle in the home country
Philippine Open
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not only did he get ball in hand, he should have been out with the very beneficial layout he got after the break. he totally sh*t himself, over and over. i will say it seemed crowd was against him, cheering for a scratch etc. but he's used to being the heel anyway
The No Names are crushing! So many of these guys were just waiting for a chance to play in a major (big money) event. The big guns in this field will all have their hands full to reach the final eight and then the final four. More will be falling along the way. Welcome to the Philippines!
Out of all the Filipinos who had the chance to brandish their stick abroad, I have absolutely no faith in Jeffrey de Luna and Roberto Gomez. They were just a flash in the pan for me.
On the contrary, the Anton Raga vs Baseth Mocaibat match was high quality. Their pedigree showed. Unfortunately, somebody has to lose.
On the contrary, the Anton Raga vs Baseth Mocaibat match was high quality. Their pedigree showed. Unfortunately, somebody has to lose.
I think what’s happening here is a mix-up between ex-ante and ex-post ideas of fairness.
Ex-ante (before the fact) fairness looks at the structure everyone faces at the start--what John Rawls would call the “veil of ignorance” perspective. From that view, a double-elimination event with a one-match final is completely fair: every player starts with the same two-loss allowance and the same path to reach the finals either clean or with one loss.
Ex-post (after the fact) fairness looks backward once we know who’s undefeated and who isn’t and says, “but that feels uneven now.” That’s the trap. It confuses equal opportunity before play begins with equal outcomes after the bracket unfolds. It’s basically a form of hindsight bias.
If you design the event so that everyone knows from the outset the final is a single race, that rule applies equally to all players. By ex-ante standards, that’s as fair as any format gets. The fact that the final happens to be one match long doesn’t make it less fair — it just makes it the smallest possible single-elimination stage.
moritz is another victim to a no name. krause hanging on by a thread..
In a multi-stage event, a loss in the qualifying Stage 1 is a "so what?" It's two different tournaments.
The World 10ball was an example of a multi-stage event where three stages were needed, the first just to get into the main draw. Some who reached Stage 2 (the main draw of the event) took losses in Stage 1, but were those that got through to Stage 3 (single elimination) fortunate or less deserving because they had lost a match in qualifying? No, they weren't. Who did what in the qualifying rounds is irrelevant.
Every stage of an event is a separate tournament, and how you reached that stage, other than for seeding purposes, makes no difference. And yes, the undefeated players do get an advantage in single elimination, specifically first-round protection from all the players that got there undefeated. Lose a match in Qualifying Rounds and you risk drawing Fedor in the win-or-go-home round of 64.
krause pulled through.
the herd of star players is thinned, as many suspected. the spaniards are doing well though, and alcaide will be playing jaybee sucal tomorrow on TV1 (and likely a dozen pirate streams on tiktok etc). expect big crowds
Necessity is the mother of invention.
Too bad for the no shows. The Philippines Open is definitely showing the world the strength and depth of the Filipino players. Have to hope for success for this tournament in the future. Maybe make it double elimination and increase the prize money? Lots of majors winners came through the loser side.
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This is distinctly possible. Pro pool must do a better job of scheduling its majors, because they've made burnout too big an issue.
Earlier this year, I took note on the forum that this summer, Filler went from Europe to the World 9ball in Jeddah to the World Games in China, then on to the US Open in New Jersey, and then to the World 10ball in Vietnam.
I don't think it is right for me to make excuses for any of these three fine cueists, all of whom are young and energetic, but all this scrambling must surely take at least some toll on them and many other players.
We need something like we saw this summer, when the Rally in the Valley, Florida Open, Battle of the Bull and US Open 9ball were played over four consecutive weeks and all on them were played on the East coast of the United States. Many of the top pros played in all four and not only had little travel with which to deal but also greatly reduced expenses. To those that schedule pool, more of that, please.
Pro golf does better than pro pool. For example, the PGA has what it refers to as its West Coast Swing, a seven-week period in which tour events are played mostly in California and Arizona. That kind of scheduling serves everybody's best interests, and pool should take notice.
i also suspect this setting is a bit out of the ordinary for (the very particular) moritz
David looks to be in good form. A tough test for Jaybee.
for reference: prize money is 125k, first prize 30k.