Pissed at Joe Tucker's Racking Secrets Video

Without a doubt racking secrets is one of the best training aids I've seen to date. I put it in my top 3.

My only complaint is how little there is on one pocket.

He should include a cheat sheet that is say 3-4 pages showing a condensed version of all the breaks.
 
JB Cases said:
The information is on how to read a rack and adjust your break accordingly. It does not teach you how to gaffe a rack. One of the most interesting things in the video is when Joe says that sometimes it's better to have the gaps i.e. a loose rack if you know what will happen. Or something like that.

And Spidey is right MOST people - INCLUDING ME are too lazy to ingest and retain and use this material.
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Thanks for the explanation!
 
real bartram said:
i think ill play you even **** it ill give you the last 4 you can rack for us both what you think of that bud.thats what i thought .so here is my problem suckers like you should not know about the rack .
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i'll just take the break and ball in hand after the break (racking my own ofcourse)...pony up big boy!
 
JB Cases said:
come on Chris, really? You're saying that no one has the right to learn how to read racks? Or are you saying that no one has the right to learn how to gaffe racks?

Wow, all these years and NOW I find out that all the road players I played were gaffing the rack. No wonder I could never get good enough to be in on the secret.

You're right though that it's great information - Thanks Joe Tucker.

After reading Joe's book I put a rack on my friend betting him $20 he couldn't get the 9 to the rail. He quit $100 loser and like the true sucker I am I let him out for dinner instead.

Thanks for verifying that the information in Racking Secrets is worth it. I thought you were gonna say it's all bunk. Joe should send you some jelly for the plug.

I can see the next DVD cover now

"Joe Tucker's a snitch, bring him in the hood and he'd be shot for giving up the information on how to beat 99% of the people in this country" C.B.

:-)
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I don't think Chris thinks no one has the right to learn it, but they should learn the good old fashioned way, by playing.

Reading about something like that, to me, in a way detracts from the game in that for one, is an aspect that you don't have to learn by doing anymore, and two, isn't kosher in the sense that its like patitally stacking a deck. If I had to cpompare it to poker, it would be like a way from dealing from the bottom doesn't guarentee a win, but more like a guarentee you're going to have an ace in your hand..not a for sure win, but it helps your chances.

Look at all the old-schoolers one pocket players, how many of them were itching to give up the how-to on moves that took them years to learn?? Guess Chris is just an ols-schooler like that ;)
 
Thanks for the props all.

I hesitate to reply to Chris because I'm not sure that its him, doesn't seem like his style. I can say this though. I wrote the book in 99, knew the info (which I figured out on my own) a few years earlier and did personally teach one of Chris's former partners how to read the racks from which Chris probably learned, so your welcome, whoever you are.
 
Joe T said:
I hesitate to reply to Chris because I'm not sure that its him, doesn't seem like his style.
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I agree. If we're wrong I am a little bit disappointed.
 
Joe my friend I have placed an order simply because of this thread so you can thank Chris or whoever it really is for my order.
 
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I don't understand why a player would be so tight lipped about information.

If you take a two night a week C level league player, and tell him/her every secret there is about pool, they will still be be C level player (C+ at best) unless they spend some serious time at the practice table.

If you release all of the secrets in pool in a book, 60% of players won't read it, 15% won't retain the information, 10% will diseregard it favor of another all encompassing system, 10% won't practice it, 3% will practice it but not enough to become proficient and 2% will practice it daily.

It doesn't matter what you know if you haven't logged thousands upon thousands of hours at the practice table.

The best you can possibly do as a teacher is set someone on the right path, while everyone else is lost in the woods.
 
Joe's Racking Secrets is not how to give somebody a bad rack but how to read someone else's racks. Especially by accepting a rack and then breaking on the correct side to make it more advantageous of an outcome for you, the breaker. Isn't that what we are trying to do, is make a ball on the break anyway? Reading the rack in 9 ball is a must or you are a nit for not wanting to know what the rack has in store for you. Thanks, Joe. I'm not as much as a nit as I used to be!
 
Terry Erdman said:
Joe's Racking Secrets is not how to give somebody a bad rack but how to read someone else's racks. Especially by accepting a rack and then breaking on the correct side to make it more advantageous of an outcome for you, the breaker. Isn't that what we are trying to do, is make a ball on the break anyway? Reading the rack in 9 ball is a must or you are a nit for not wanting to know what the rack has in store for you. Thanks, Joe. I'm not as much as a nit as I used to be!
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I think you need to find out the true definition of nit.
 
JB Cases said:
I can see the next DVD cover now

"Joe Tucker's a snitch, bring him in the hood and he'd be shot for giving up the information on how to beat 99% of the people in this country" C.B.

:-)
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I'd buy this DVD then offer to spot anybody the 5 and last 5 or the 6 and last 4 if I can't think of anything else to respond to their logical post.
 
real bartram said:
mikeiniowa to play me i dont know your speed but ill gamble you want the 5 and last 5 right i dont know you so i could be wrong but ill gamble now you want this spot which is fine but now you also want to know every thing i know for 29.95 dvd i think he is a sell out . i dont go off much but this is my one time i feel this dvd is a joke.
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I guess I was wrong. You must be right cause you are the better player. You have always come off as a classy guy on here and the one time I have met you. You must be real fired up for this tirade. Good luck in life.

Mike Athens

PS. There are alot of players I could give that spot to but that doesn't always make me right either and I wouldn't try and rub their noses in it.
 
Joe T said:
Thanks for the props all.

I hesitate to reply to Chris because I'm not sure that its him, doesn't seem like his style. I can say this though. I wrote the book in 99, knew the info (which I figured out on my own) a few years earlier and did personally teach one of Chris's former partners how to read the racks from which Chris probably learned, so your welcome, whoever you are.
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i dont really think its chris either...i have met him and seen him play on a couple of occasions...he always seemed to have more class than that.
 
Joe T said:
Thanks for the props all.

I hesitate to reply to Chris because I'm not sure that its him, doesn't seem like his style. I can say this though. I wrote the book in 99, knew the info (which I figured out on my own) a few years earlier and did personally teach one of Chris's former partners how to read the racks from which Chris probably learned, so your welcome, whoever you are.
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its me yea right i learned from who you think.i tought him alot
 
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