Pivot system users

How many aim lines to pocket all shot to one side?

  • 1 Aim line

    Votes: 4 30.8%

  • 2 Aim lines

    Votes: 3 23.1%

  • 3 Aim lines

    Votes: 3 23.1%

  • 4 Aim lines

    Votes: 3 23.1%

  • 5 Aim lines

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    13
8pack

8pack

They call me 2 county !
Silver Member
On the way you pivot .
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How many aim points do you have to pocket all shots to one side of the table?We're not counting straight in just angled shots.
 
There's not enough info in the question to answer. Based on how it's written, the answer is technically 2. I voted 3 because I'm not that extreme. 4 if you pivot to center ball as your final spot (because short CB/OB distances within a diamond require an additional visual).

Aim points is a misnomer. It's visual alignments.
 
SpiderWebComm said:
There's not enough info in the question to answer. Based on how it's written, the answer is technically 2. I voted 3 because I'm not that extreme. 4 if you pivot to center ball as your final spot (because short CB/OB distances within a diamond require an additional visual).

Aim points is a misnomer. It's visual alignments.
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Ok visual alignments.You gotta be so picky .lol:p
 
This is cte/pro1 according to the dvd for shots to one side.

4 visual alignments
4 (outside) pivots and 3 (inside) pivots
4 physical alignments plus 3 more alignments added with the use of an (inside) pivot

I include one 1/8 adjustment in all of the above.
 
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champ2107 said:
This is cte/pro1 according to the dvd.

4 visual alignments
4 (outside) pivots and 3 (inside) pivots
4 physical alignments plus 3 more alignments added with the use of an (inside) pivot

I include one 1/8 adjustment in all of the above.
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It's simple for you.:smile:
 
honestly its not hard and very simple...i think people just over think it all and try and figure out why it works first instead of just learning it.
 
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champ2107 said:
This is cte/pro1 according to the dvd.

4 visual alignments
4 (outside) pivots and 3 (inside) pivots
4 physical alignments plus 3 more alignments added with the use of an (inside) pivot

I include one 1/8 adjustment in all of the above.
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So you have 4 visuals cutting to one side.
 
yea i do, 4 systematic visual alignments, that will actually lead you into millions of individual physical alignments in reality because of the cb and ob placements on the table, get it? lol i think i worded it right lol
 
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champ2107 said:
yea i do, 4 systematic visual alignments, that will actually turn into millions of individual visual alignments in reality because of the cb and ob placements on the table, get it? lol
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Amost an infinite number of visuals are available.:smile:
 
i changed it while you were posting lamas, go back and look. i put visual when it should have been physical. i am just thinking off the top of my head here and posting quickly.
 
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A few different ways i guess on how people are going at the method.
Do any of you wonder why your having trouble ?
Is there a fault in the system or is it the user?

My opinion its both.
I think the system puts one on the line or so close to it one mite not be able to tell if he's on or off so when he missis he blames himself.
I love what these Guys teach and have nothing against any of it.
I'm very opened minded and will give anything a go if it can help my game.
I do pivot but not like its taught.:smile:
I also should have the right to speak my opinion.
 
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i have decided to finally figure out how and why cte systems works exactly. I am pretty sure i will figure it out, i have never really had interest in how and why until now, i guess im bored? we will see :thumbup:
 
8pack said:
A few different ways i guess on how people are going at the method.
Do any of you wonder why your having trouble ?
Is there a fault in the system or is it the user?

My opinion its both.
I think the system puts one on the line or so close to it one mite not be able to tell if he's on or off so when he missis he blames himself.
I love what these Guys teach and have nothing against any of it.
I'm very opened minded and will give anything a go if it can help my game.
I do pivot but not like its taught.:smile:
I also should have the right to speak my opinion.
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I'd be interested in reading about your pivot method. I like learning new things.
 
SpiderWebComm said:
I'd be interested in reading about your pivot method. I like learning new things.
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Dave if i ever decide to share what i do you would be one of the first.
No way i would post it up on the forum.While there are some good people on here I just feel some just don,t deserve the right to be able to pocket balls better.
I want to thank you for not telling me I'm full of sh!t even if you think so.:grin:
What i will tell you is whats being taught there are gaps between the aim points.Them gaps have a purpose,and must be used.I think this is where all the trouble is coming from.
 
8pack said:
Dave if i ever decide to share what i do you would be one of the first.
No way i would post it up on the forum.While there are some good people on here I just feel some just don,t deserve the right to be able to pocket balls better.
I want to thank you for not telling me I'm full of sh!t even if you think so.:grin:
What i will tell you is whats being taught there are gaps between the aim points.Them gaps have a purpose,and must be used.I think this is where all the trouble is coming from.
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I would NEVER say you're full of shit. I think you're a solid player and I'm interested in your approach. I didn't invent anything I do-- every I do I learned from others.
 
SpiderWebComm said:
I would NEVER say you're full of shit. I think you're a solid player and I'm interested in your approach. I didn't invent anything I do-- every I do I learned from others.
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Spidy,
I believe in your "hip pivot" as one of your techniques to more accurately move/rotate the cue to the prepivot bridge location or not.

I realize that for those that don't/can't find the contact point on the OB that sends it to the pocket/target that other methods of aiming can be employed that are more cogent for them like the various forms of pivoting.:smile:
 
LAMas said:
Spidy,
I believe in your "hip pivot" as one of your techniques to more accurately move/rotate the cue to the prepivot bridge location or not.

I realize that for those that don't/can't find the contact point on the OB that sends it to the pocket/target that other methods of aiming can be employed that are more cogent for them like the various forms of pivoting.:smile:
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I learned the hip pivot from Ron Vitello - that's his technique.

The shot circle concept is mine and you can emulate the hip pivot arc with a back-hand pivot if you understand it well.

Other than that, almost everything I learned with aiming I got from Hal Houle, Ron Vitello and Stan Shuffett.
 
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