playability- deep knifed points vs inlays

breakshot said:
What is amazing to me STILL is that nobody cares- this thread is about a significant issue in how and why a cue made the way it is, and only hand full of people have posted in this thread.
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On the other hand threads about misc. BS get enormous interest- this really shows me what type of person our sport is comprised of.

People don't have to know how a car is built to be able to drive it.
Take it out of the case screw it together run out. NEXT
 
tikkler said:
Personally....I think the more time you spend there, the better off you will be. To tell you the truth....you should all spend a little time there....LOL
Steve

I wish I weren't so far away.......would definitely spend more time there.
 
breakshot said:
What is amazing to me STILL is that nobody cares- this thread is about a significant issue in how and why a cue made the way it is, and only hand full of people have posted in this thread.
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On the other hand threads about misc. BS get enormous interest- this really shows me what type of person our sport is comprised of.

I think people know about and understand a lot less these types of things compared to the ones who really care.
One could write a very thick book on construction theory and only touch the tip of the berg.
 
jasonlaus said:
People don't have to know how a car is built to be able to drive it.
Take it out of the case screw it together run out. NEXT

This whole discussion is about quality construction and how a cue feels when you play.
Agreed, people don't need to know how a car is made but they can certainly feel the difference in ride between a Mercedes and a Yugo. And for sure they would rather drive a Mercedes all the time.

For people that can't feel the difference between a Kmart cue and a quality made cue, there is no point in having this conversation
 
JoeyInCali said:
Don't, Dave's nutty enough.
He caresses his shaftwoods before each pass and whispers, " This will hurt, but I promise I'll be gentle".
Also, he only tones his woods and cues right after midnight.
Don't ask why. I made a mistake of asking him once.

Thanks for letting the cat out of the bag.........
 
breakshot said:
This whole discussion is about quality construction and how a cue feels when you play.
Agreed, people don't need to know how a car is made but they can certainly feel the difference in ride between a Mercedes and a Yugo. And for sure they would rather drive a Mercedes all the time.

For people that can't feel the difference between a Kmart cue and a quality made cue, there is no point in having this conversation

I will stick with Porsche thank you.

Bottom line is people can tell the difference & still don't need to know how they are built. Like you said FEEL.
 
hey

I know that being I have never personally worked on a cue, in any way, that there is tons and tons of information I dont know. I also dont pretend to know, and call myself a bigtime cue expert because I have a bunch of cues. The world is full of experts on things they really know nothing about...LOL....thats life.

I do believe that when spending good money on anything, it is just common sense that you should try and find out as much as possible.

With the cue industry being totally unregulated in any way shape or form, it is even more important to know what you are buying.
Steve
 
breakshot said:
What is amazing to me STILL is that nobody cares- this thread is about a significant issue in how and why a cue made the way it is, and only hand full of people have posted in this thread.
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On the other hand threads about misc. BS get enormous interest- this really shows me what type of person our sport is comprised of.
Maybe people don't care because either your presentation sucks or they don't really believe you.

You've over-generalized inlaid flats vs. half-splice. You've over-generalized coring to the point of being incorrect.

We can all point to crappy spliced cues that are failing and solid flat-bottom pointed cues that aren't failing. And vice versa. We can look at the greatest cuemakers in the world and see who's making flat-bottoms vs. half-splice vs. full-splice. And they'd still be the greatest regardles if they are doing one or the other or the other.

Personally, I don't think it's that important in the grand scheme of playability or longevity whether someone constructs with half-spliced points or flat-bottom routed points. Wood selection, handling, fit, tolerancing, finish, glues, etc. Those are the areas I'd rather spend my time discussing.

But then again, I don't know much about anything.

Fred <~~~ loves spliced points as much as the next guy, but think technology has overrun their advantage
 
breakshot said:
2.Deep knifed or spiced points- These are cut deep into the forearm (usually cored- for stability).

If this is the case, are the points cut, then cored? or cored then points?

just out of curiosity. Cue construction is...umm...fascinating, actually.
 
I love it

What a cue we could build........all we have to do is gather up all these experts...on every aspect of cuemaking. Put them in a shop, I guess it would have to be a real one...LOL
And WAA LAAA the best cue ever..........hahahahaha
Steve
 
Impact Blue said:
If this is the case, are the points cut, then cored? or cored then points?

just out of curiosity. Cue construction is...umm...fascinating, actually.

cored first......points second...on both deep V and inlaid
 
tikkler said:
What a cue we could build........all we have to do is gather up all these experts...on every aspect of cuemaking. Put them in a shop, I guess it would have to be a real one...LOL
And WAA LAAA the best cue ever..........hahahahaha
Steve

The only problem might be getting them to agree on anything!
 
breakshot said:
This whole discussion is about quality construction and how a cue feels when you play.
Agreed, people don't need to know how a car is made but they can certainly feel the difference in ride between a Mercedes and a Yugo. And for sure they would rather drive a Mercedes all the time.

For people that can't feel the difference between a Kmart cue and a quality made cue, there is no point in having this conversation


Hey man dont make fun of my Yugo. I'm the persident of the Yugo Club of Vegas. I drive a Yugo with pride. :)
 
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breakshot said:
there are subtle differences between those two types of cues, first the weight your adding (rosewood-dense) is right at the handle versus adding the weight(ebony) just in front of the handle area

I have read on the BB site and heard directly from Tony about the importance of adding extra weight after the wrap but I still don't understand the physics of WHY this is so important. Can you explain this in detail?
 
breakshot said:
What I was saying is, depending on where the player holds the cue(forward or toward the bumper), this will greatly affect where and how many nodal points you have in the cue. All i'm saying is that this should affect how the cue is made with respect to weight distribution and stiffness, shaft flex and length.

As far as where you hold the cue, you have to use a multitude of bridge lengths when playing pool. Therefore you must hold the cue at a multitude of positions on the handle in order to keep a proper stance. So it doesnt seem to me like you can build a cue to hold in one place. Your hand moves around all the time depending on the shot.
 
Fatboy said:
Hey man dont make fun of my Yugo. I'm the persident of the Yugo Club of Vegas. I drive a Yugo with pride. :)
I like that they are disposible.. which is better a Porche??? or a 12 pack of Yugos?:thumbup:
 
I personally like inlaid points if done on a lathe. I know Mike G.'s cues hit great. Most people would be amazied that cuemakers don't fit, points like a gunsmith would do,( there would be dark,characol marks). and People core cues because they use (green woods that warp) and they see money money cue cue out out the the door door.and sacrifice quality-Dennis dieckman said-7-17yrs. aged winter and summer. I was just looking at richard Blacks cues again-it is nuts what that guy does to transform a cue to talking art.Gina cues has barrels of shafts. mike g makes cues that are for the player. But I would still challenge him that I could find the (daylight). Just my 02 cents- Please have a greatday like manwon would say. mrmark
 
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