Players showing up with thugs.
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Yo Elliot, you stir up s**t like this and you start rumors. If you have got anything (or anybody) to substantiate this then say so.
Also I don't think the player you didn't mention is neccessarily responsible for the actions of his companion, though it might reflect on his wisdom in choosing companions.
Also I don't think the player you didn't mention is neccessarily responsible for the actions of his companion, though it might reflect on his wisdom in choosing companions.
catscradle said:
One of life's undeniable realities is that you are judged by the company you keep, but there's more to it than that in this case.
The emergence of a second witness here who has provided the identities of the player and his sidekick seems to suggest that it all probably came down the way Elliott has related, though the player was Frenchie (not Luc).
If the two persons named had planned extortion (our poster's word, not mine) together in advance, they qualify as accomplices and the commission of an illegal act by either could have legal consequences for both.
Hence, your statement that the player is not responsible for the actions of the supposed thug may or may not be true.
This is true.sjm said:
Actually I think the account by the 2nd witness, complete with an historical perspective, is more damning of both the "thug" and the player than was the original post.
I my originally statement was phrased it in a way that it said the same thing as your last sentencs, at least I meant it to be.
I talked to a few people this morning and as I suspected in my earlier post (and was pointed out by backpause) Frenchie is indeed the player responsible, I don't know why "Elliot" didn't just say it was him instead of giving us a description that made it sound like the player was Luc 
I'm glad this got cleared up because Luc is truly a stand up guy that shouldn't even have his name associated with a thread such as this.
I'm glad this got cleared up because Luc is truly a stand up guy that shouldn't even have his name associated with a thread such as this.
Yeah I live here also and that law is ridiculous,The murder rate will rise sharply in the next year and then the law will be repealed.Its like when Florida passed the gun law that anyone could carry if it was not concealed,that lasted about a week.willz21 said:elliott,
New law here in Florida giving victims the right to shoot to kill if they feel threatened. It's perfect for me and thousands of victims of crime to be able to defend ourselves.
Move to Florida and you will be able to protect yourself.
willz21
The fan should of went to management with what was happening.If nothing was done about his complaint then he should of called the police.
Thats what a law abiding citezens do.
Sorry for the rant.
backpause said:
Running around with some muscle bound freak and intimidating potential opponents isn't a very good way to get action IMO. Next time you see Frenchie tell him to come back without his goon and Edwin and Tyler will be glad to relieve him of his hard earned cash, might even give him some weight.
Actually, i am a little surprised he went 2 and out, but i didnt expect him to get to the top half of the field. Hes a good player with a PRO rating in BC, but nowhere near as good as Tyler or Edwin, or basicly any other BC players with a PRO rating. Jim Bear is the only PRO RATED playeri can think of that could play Frenchy even and have a little trouble. And thats only cause Jim is more of a snooker player, although i have seen him catch a gear in 9-ball and play phenominal.sniper said:
fxskater said:
fxskater,
Is Jim Bear John Bear's brother? Are you familiar with John? I watched John play in a Tournament down here in Washington State back in the mid 90's. He won easily. Frenchie, Stan Tourangeau and Brady Gollan were there too. I was wondering if he was still playing. IIRC John was at one time the Canadian National Snooker Champion.
Lunchmoney
Yep Jim Bear is John's brother. I have never met John or seen him play but i knew he was a canadian champion, and i have heard great stories about him too. From what i hear John is the better player of the 2 brothers.
Here's a story:
A friend of mine related this to me. My friend was sitting and watching John Bear practice some snooker, and as hes watching hes counting along. After pocketing the last red John was at 113, and got slightly out of line on the black. He turns towards the Pink and is just about ready to shoot when, my Friend jumps up and RUNS over to tell him, 'Hey John, your on a 147 and you are gonna turn and shoot that pink ball in?' I'm not sure what John said, but he turned back to the black and shot it in and completed a perfect game. I always think of this when i think of what being 'IN STROKE' means. An opportunity to run a perfect game probably doesnt even come up once a year for these guys, but he was just so concentrated on playing that he hadn't even noticed.
Actually at the last Kelowna tournament, Tyler Eddie and Edwin are playing on one table, Paul Pautier is on another, alot of good players playing. I'm IN my first match in the corner, away from the Action and JIM BEAR sits down and watched my entire match from start to finish. I've never been so nervous playing in my life. I was thinking why the hell is Jim Bear watching ME play? Anyways, it helped me bring up my game a bit as i didn't want to dissapoint him. I ended up losing hill-hill after missing the final 9 ball twice, once in a combination and once after getting out of line. The combo had a dead safe built in but it was a long flyer.
BTW, Jim Bear ran a 147 in snooker in 2002, if you ask him about it he knows the exact date, i think it was April, maybe June.
BTW 2: Jim Bear is probably one of the nicest pool players you will ever meet. The first time i met him he came into the tournament room to about 5 guys yelling 'Hey, ITS the best pool player in BC' (or something like that, a bunch of guys screaming out various RESPECTS anyways). He then walks over to me and started practicing with me, whom he had never met, in a room full of people Praising him. He is genuinely one of the NICEST people i have ever met. He has a huge smile that i have never seen leave his face. Maybe hes one of those kids that didn't listen to his mom about making faces and his face DID STAY LIKE THAT!!
Here's a story:
A friend of mine related this to me. My friend was sitting and watching John Bear practice some snooker, and as hes watching hes counting along. After pocketing the last red John was at 113, and got slightly out of line on the black. He turns towards the Pink and is just about ready to shoot when, my Friend jumps up and RUNS over to tell him, 'Hey John, your on a 147 and you are gonna turn and shoot that pink ball in?' I'm not sure what John said, but he turned back to the black and shot it in and completed a perfect game. I always think of this when i think of what being 'IN STROKE' means. An opportunity to run a perfect game probably doesnt even come up once a year for these guys, but he was just so concentrated on playing that he hadn't even noticed.
Actually at the last Kelowna tournament, Tyler Eddie and Edwin are playing on one table, Paul Pautier is on another, alot of good players playing. I'm IN my first match in the corner, away from the Action and JIM BEAR sits down and watched my entire match from start to finish. I've never been so nervous playing in my life. I was thinking why the hell is Jim Bear watching ME play? Anyways, it helped me bring up my game a bit as i didn't want to dissapoint him. I ended up losing hill-hill after missing the final 9 ball twice, once in a combination and once after getting out of line. The combo had a dead safe built in but it was a long flyer.
BTW, Jim Bear ran a 147 in snooker in 2002, if you ask him about it he knows the exact date, i think it was April, maybe June.
BTW 2: Jim Bear is probably one of the nicest pool players you will ever meet. The first time i met him he came into the tournament room to about 5 guys yelling 'Hey, ITS the best pool player in BC' (or something like that, a bunch of guys screaming out various RESPECTS anyways). He then walks over to me and started practicing with me, whom he had never met, in a room full of people Praising him. He is genuinely one of the NICEST people i have ever met. He has a huge smile that i have never seen leave his face. Maybe hes one of those kids that didn't listen to his mom about making faces and his face DID STAY LIKE THAT!!
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jimmy bear is an absolutely stand up guy. he's almost always joking, smiling, and having fun. max bear (jim and john's uncle i believe) is also a very nice man, and i understand was pretty handy with a cue himself.
frenchie sprints around the table like he's in a race around a track, and has quite the stable nose for balancing anything on it (triangle, cue, cue with a stool on it, cue with a beer on it, ....)
frenchie sprints around the table like he's in a race around a track, and has quite the stable nose for balancing anything on it (triangle, cue, cue with a stool on it, cue with a beer on it, ....)
fxskater said:
Thanks for the report fxskater, I have seen John play on two occasions. I have never seen him play snooker only 9-ball. People said that he played better snooker than 9-ball and his 9-ball game was of a professional caliber, at least in the mid 90's. I haven't heard much about him the last few years. Is he playing a lot of pool or sticking to snooker?
Lunchmoney
Time to drop the thread.
The purpose of my original thread was not to cause all of this discussion about why or why not names were used. I regret substantially that Mr. Salvas' name was brought up, as he would NEVER be involved in this kind of activity. My original purpose was to point out to Tournament organizers and Directors that they ought to be mindful of these kind of activities and make an effort wherever reasonable and possible to disallow such players to participate, as it only adds to the difficult task involved in keeping pool tournaments clean and professional. Regarding the 'naming' of names issue, the writers begs the readers to understand that the best thing at this point is end the discussion, as nothing happened, and we don't want anything to happen. Life is difficult as it is without angering such people.
The purpose of my original thread was not to cause all of this discussion about why or why not names were used. I regret substantially that Mr. Salvas' name was brought up, as he would NEVER be involved in this kind of activity. My original purpose was to point out to Tournament organizers and Directors that they ought to be mindful of these kind of activities and make an effort wherever reasonable and possible to disallow such players to participate, as it only adds to the difficult task involved in keeping pool tournaments clean and professional. Regarding the 'naming' of names issue, the writers begs the readers to understand that the best thing at this point is end the discussion, as nothing happened, and we don't want anything to happen. Life is difficult as it is without angering such people.
If anybody wants to get a glimps of Frenchie, he plays almost every sunday at the weekly tournament at Commodore in Vancouver. He's hard to miss. He's about 45 to 50 (just a speculation), slim built, some white hair, and sometimes wear a baseball cap when he plays. He uses a snooker cue to play pool and plays extremely fast. His speed is something to watch. Once I saw him down and aiming at a 9 even before the cue ball had finished moving.
John Bear's a really nice guy. If you don't know who he is and you bump into him at a pool hall, you would never think he is such an amazing player. He treats everybody, whether you're a pro or a D player, with respect. He's one of the best gentleman on the pool table and off.
all i'm going to say is this.........
elliott, if you didn't want people's names brought up...........then you shouldn't have used anything to describe the person.
the term "plays like lightning" is very very very descriptive for one in particular player from canada, at least it is for most people in the world.
if your purpose was to make tournament directors aware, then you should have just stated that something happened(or didn't, as you have said) and that you would like people to pay more attention.
you caused the name throwing by using certain words in your original post.
next time, think things through before you go typing away on a forum that is read by the entire world............and then backtracking to say nothing happened and that you didn't mean for any names to come up.............very very very poorly thought out.
VAP
elliott, if you didn't want people's names brought up...........then you shouldn't have used anything to describe the person.
the term "plays like lightning" is very very very descriptive for one in particular player from canada, at least it is for most people in the world.
if your purpose was to make tournament directors aware, then you should have just stated that something happened(or didn't, as you have said) and that you would like people to pay more attention.
you caused the name throwing by using certain words in your original post.
next time, think things through before you go typing away on a forum that is read by the entire world............and then backtracking to say nothing happened and that you didn't mean for any names to come up.............very very very poorly thought out.
VAP
I think there was a serious mountain built out of a pretty small molehill here. I know all parties involved and the story this thread told is not in character for any of the people named. I think some people blew some small things they saw WAY out of proportion and it is pretty poor character for all involved in this thread who stirred the pot.