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azbicyclis85376

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Curious how many of you play pool, snooker, or three cushion for money. Aka Gambling on you ability.

I am not real competitive, so I really play for any money except when the local Men’s Club has their Tuesday-Friday 8 Ball League.

The cost is One Buck to play, and the Pot is split between 1st, 2nd, and 3rd Place Finishers, or finishing Teams if there is a lot of players.

Total pots depend upon how many play each day. A $30.00 total pot is a big deal.

Also some of the players like to bet $0.25/Game. I might only play one or two time a month, as I am not really a gambler. ;)
 
azbicyclis85376 said:
Curious how many of you play pool, snooker, or three cushion for money. Aka Gambling on you ability.

I am not real competitive, so I really play for any money except when the local Men’s Club has their Tuesday-Friday 8 Ball League.

The cost is One Buck to play, and the Pot is split between 1st, 2nd, and 3rd Place Finishers, or finishing Teams if there is a lot of players.

Total pots depend upon how many play each day. A $30.00 total pot is a big deal.

Also some of the players like to bet $0.25/Game. I might only play one or two time a month, as I am not really a gambler. ;)
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Get with the program dude and start uping the ante. It takes a long time for those quarters to build up. Maybe you'll knock off enough bread to invest in that new cue. ($3,000 one instead of $1,500)
 
azbicyclis85376 said:
Also some of the players like to bet $0.25/Game. I might only play one or two time a month, as I am not really a gambler. ;)
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My feelings are that the players themselves are not gambling unless they are perfectly matched as to their skill level. Beting on a single game is gambling as there is always an element of luck as a player could make the winning ball on the break.
That is why most money players like a race to 11 to exclude or minimize the luck factor.
The player with the greater skill will almost always win in a race match.
If both players are evenly matched in skills then it becomes a true gamble.

Side betters are always gambling as they have no way of directly infulencing the outcome of the game unless a fix has been ageed upon in which case it is no longer gambling and becomes a sure thing.
 
drivermaker said:
Get with the program dude and start uping the ante. It takes a long time for those quarters to build up. Maybe you'll knock off enough bread to invest in that new cue. ($3,000 one instead of $1,500)
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My on regular gambling is buy a Single PowerBall Quick Pick when the Pot exceeds $100,000,000.00. Last year I think I lost Six Bucks. Live real close to many Indian Run Casinos, also live a few hours from Laughlin, Las Vegas, and never go.
 
azbicyclis85376 said:
My on regular gambling is buy a Single PowerBall Quick Pick when the Pot exceeds $100,000,000.00. Last year I think I lost Six Bucks. Live real close to many Indian Run Casinos, also live a few hours from Laughlin, Las Vegas, and never go.
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So ur looking to play for the cash .Start small and work your way to bigger things .I use to play for 1 buck a game and now i have all these DAM Bucks in my house . NOW i'm trying to sell them ..LOL. If u got it bet if u lose it, All u can do is blame YOU.. Some people can play for the cash and some can't . :D :D :D
Come down to GA and we Can play cheep. :) :) :) :) <-------
 
I'll play for money fairly regularly - but only because it is the only way to get the better players around here to play, and my instructor keeps claiming that I must play better players. To me the pressure in a tournament is no different than playing for the cash - I'm very competitive and want to win whether money is involved or not. The whole point to me is to learn to play my best game in competition, to learn how to play my best game even when the adrenaline is kicking in, to learn to rely on my stroke no matter what the situation (all things that are difficult to do by yourself in practice). At this point I no longer get nervous at all in competition - the ONLY exception is when I play with one of the well known pro's (no money involved) - for some reason I still get nervous and tremulous, go figure.
 
WilleeCue said:
My feelings are that the players themselves are not gambling unless they are perfectly matched as to their skill level. Beting on a single game is gambling as there is always an element of luck as a player could make the winning ball on the break.
That is why most money players like a race to 11 to exclude or minimize the luck factor.
The player with the greater skill will almost always win in a race match.
If both players are evenly matched in skills then it becomes a true gamble.

Side betters are always gambling as they have no way of directly infulencing the outcome of the game unless a fix has been ageed upon in which case it is no longer gambling and becomes a sure thing.
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Can't agree with ya on the races and gambling, Will. In tournaments it is needed to keep the time table in line.

Now, how are you going to like this scenario? You and I are gambling. Lets play a long race. Lets go to 20 games. As you say, this should produce the better player. First set, I beat you 20 to 19. Good set, very close. Second set, you beat me 20 to 0. You have just won 19 games more than me and I am dead even on the money. You happy? Hell no. And, you shouldn't be. If we were playing for just $10 a game you would be $190 winner. Instead, you are even.

When gambling it should allways be preferable to play by the game. If you think the other guy is short on $$$, freeze up the $$$. Play 10 ahead for what ever. 5 ahead. It doesn't matter. Gambling by the game is the best way to determine the better player.

Best of luck when you match up. Yes, it is going to take longer. You got some place to go or do you want to gamble?
 
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hemicudas said:
Can't agree with ya on the races and gambling, Will. In tournaments it is needed to keep the time table in line.

Now, how are you going to like this scenario? You and I are gambling. Lets play a long race. Lets go to 20 games. As you say, this should produce the better player. First set, I beat you 20 to 19. Good set, very close. Second set, you beat me 20 to 0. You have just won 19 games more than me and I am dead even on the money. You happy? Hell no. And, you shouldn't be. If we were playing for just $10 a game you would be $190 winner. Instead, you are even.

When gambling it should allways be preferable to play by the game. If you think the other guy is short on $$$, freeze up the $$$. Play 10 ahead for what ever. 5 ahead. It doesn't matter. Gambling by the game is the best way to determine the better player.

Best of luck when you match up. Yes, it is going to take longer. You got some place to go or do you want to gamble?
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I agree with you 100% Hemi. The only problem with playing for money per game is that some people can go back and forth for hours, i.e. staying around even or being up one or two games, and this might cause people to play sets. It is quite frustrating when I play by sets and after 4 long sessions we break even, it can also be frustrating when playing per game and neither of us is able to take a lead. I would say that playing per game is more beneficial to the stronger players, who can run 4's and 5's consistently.

Yes, by the way, gambling at pool is one of the best ways, if not THE best way to improve one's game.
 
LastTwo said:
... gambling at pool is one of the best ways, if not THE best way to improve one's game.
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In singing the praises of gambling at pool, most focus on the fact that the bet will cause you to focus more and to get used to playing under pressure.
Often overlooked, though, is the fact that, by gambling, you make it far more likely that your opponent will give you their best game, and that's just the way you want it if you're looking to improve.
 
im 14 and i gamble for fun......race to like 7 for $5 cuz i feel i always play my best for $5 and a race to 7 the better player usaully wins...i might win some extra lunch money too...but i dont go play pool for $ or looking for someone to gamble..i just like to relax and have fun....but yah thats my imput.... thanks all for listening and have a great day!!
 
hemicudas said:
When gambling it should allways be preferable to play by the game. If you think the other guy is short on $$$, freeze up the $$$. Play 10 ahead for what ever. 5 ahead. It doesn't matter. Gambling by the game is the best way to determine the better player.
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I see what you are saying about each game verses a match.

I guess in a nutshell what I was trying to say was that true gambling can only be done between players that have an equal chance of winning.
If one players is better than the other then it is not much of a gamble.

If a player that can run racks is playing someone that has trouble running 5 balls then that is not much of a gamble. True, the better player can jaw the nine ball but I wouldnt bet on it.
 
azbicyclis85376 said:
Curious how many of you play pool, snooker, or three cushion for money. Aka Gambling on you ability.

I am not real competitive, so I really play for any money except when the local Men’s Club has their Tuesday-Friday 8 Ball League.

The cost is One Buck to play, and the Pot is split between 1st, 2nd, and 3rd Place Finishers, or finishing Teams if there is a lot of players.

Total pots depend upon how many play each day. A $30.00 total pot is a big deal.

Also some of the players like to bet $0.25/Game. I might only play one or two time a month, as I am not really a gambler. ;)
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Playing for money has nothing to do with wether your any good or not! Money only effects your game if you let it and if you let it effect your game something is wrong. Just like if you let the person at the bar effect your game. Too many people in billiards judge their success by playing for money don't be fooled by them. Be know as a dangerous player, not a money player, and all players will respect your game and you...

Craig
 
Hustler08 said:
im 14 and i gamble for fun......race to like 7 for $5 cuz i feel i always play my best for $5 and a race to 7 the better player usaully wins...i might win some extra lunch money too...but i dont go play pool for $ or looking for someone to gamble..i just like to relax and have fun....but yah thats my imput.... thanks all for listening and have a great day!!
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Hey kid...you just make sure you get that homework done first thing when you come home from school this year before thinking about pool. If you don't, and I hear otherwise, I'm comin' down there to turn you into a "broke" to make sure you can't play for awhile. Remember...school work first...got it? ;)
 
Hustler08 said:
im 14 and i gamble for fun......
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Personally if you were my 14 year old, I would encourage you to be the BEST Player you could be. Work on being a Champion.

But I would not allow you to Gamble, as I think a 14 y/o should have other focuses. Like figuring out what they want to be in life, getting good grades in school, sports, after school sports, and being a kid. Not a young gambler. :(
 
hey drivemaker, good hearing from you ON A POSITIVE NOTE, lol. dont worry man, i only play pool on sat and sun!! i do all my HW and im in JV track!! whoaaaaa!! and drivemaker i would be delited ( is that how u spell it?? ) to meet you and play u FOR FUN, hehe. hey az....im working on being a champion...and i dont play for hunders not even $20!! i play cuz its like being in a tournament with all the pressure. when ever i played in jr.nationals i felt the same as playing for $5. plus i meet alot of great people.....not all pool players are bad guys like 1/2 the world thinks. well ill talk to u guys later, have fun and practice!!
 
There are really only two times when gambling at pool is acceptable at all -- on a weekday or on a weekend.
 
hemicudas said:
You got some place to go or do you want to gamble?
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Hemi,
Shouldn't that be in the "billiard quotes" thread - if you don't mind, I'm going to use your quote in about 5 minutes. Thanks.
 
Williebetmore said:
Hemi,
Shouldn't that be in the "billiard quotes" thread - if you don't mind, I'm going to use your quote in about 5 minutes. Thanks.
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Be my guest, Willie.
 
I think there is playing for money and there's gambling. Gambling occurs when you're not sure of the outcome. Playing for money is just getting paid back for all the time you put into the game. I'd much rather play for money than gamble but that's just me. Now if Hemi would stake me, I'd gamble all day and all night. LOL

Hustler, you are awful young to be gambling. Keep your head on straight, your eyes and ears open and learn. If you do this, with your head on straight, you will more than likely see that there are many gamblers that never go anywhere. Watch and learn from the ones that do. You will find often that they win the money but not necessarily at life. The ones that win both the money and at life are the ones to really learn from but they are exceptionally few in number and very hard to find. Good luck kid!
 
Hustler08 said:
hey drivemaker, good hearing from you ON A POSITIVE NOTE, lol. dont worry man, i only play pool on sat and sun!! i do all my HW and im in JV track!! whoaaaaa!! and drivemaker i would be delited ( is that how u spell it?? ) to meet you and play u FOR FUN, hehe. hey az....im working on being a champion...and i dont play for hunders not even $20!! i play cuz its like being in a tournament with all the pressure. when ever i played in jr.nationals i felt the same as playing for $5. plus i meet alot of great people.....not all pool players are bad guys like 1/2 the world thinks. well ill talk to u guys later, have fun and practice!!
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Keep doing that homework and don't think you can pull the wool over my eyes by saying otherwise. Remember, I was lying my ass off and gambling way before you were born so I know all the tricks. Keep up the JV track too because if you start goofing off, I'm still like a cheetah that hasn't eaten in 3 days and I'll run you down like you were my next meal. And you can start off by spelling the word correctly that you blew in your post.
 
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