Playing n Practicing on 10 Foot tables.

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Cezar Morales

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Hello guys, wanna hear your opinions whether practicing n playing on a 10 foot table at home will benefit my game imcrementally when i go out to play n gamble on 9 foot tables at my local pool hall.

This is because im comtemplating purchasing one as since buying a 9ft home table last yr has help me improved my game tremendously but i still find it hard to compete or gamble with more seasoned players so im wondering if developing my accuracy n ball control on a much bigger table will allow me to further develope an edge as i play down on a smaller table knowing i have deep accuracy fundementals ??


Thanks for reading and those who are willing to respond :))

Sincerely
Ryan
 
Cezar Morales said:
Hello guys, wanna hear your opinions whether practicing n playing on a 10 foot table at home will benefit my game imcrementally when i go out to play n gamble on 9 foot tables at my local pool hall.

This is because im comtemplating purchasing one as since buying a 9ft home table last yr has help me improved my game tremendously but i still find it hard to compete or gamble with more seasoned players so im wondering if developing my accuracy n ball control on a much bigger table will allow me to further develope an edge as i play down on a smaller table knowing i have deep accuracy fundementals ??


Thanks for reading and those who are willing to respond :))

Sincerely
Ryan
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Depends on you and how well you can adjust. Going from a bigger table to a smaller table always makes the smaller table seem easier to me. But you will need to be good at adjusting your speed. Shot making will seem easier on the smaller table, but again, youll need to take some off the stroke otherwise youll find you over hit your shots.
Chuck
 
Thank you for your response Chuck :)

But, may i ask if u practice or play regularly on a 10 foot table or do u have a 10 foot table at home ??

Im just asking so i'll be easier to evaluate if i should sell my 9 footer and buy a 10 footer :)

And yes, i really agree that playing down seems much easier when i hang out at a bar which have 7 or 8 ft tables, i seem to hold table all night but players there are normally at least 2 speed below me lol
 
Hello guys, wanna hear your opinions whether practicing n playing on a 10 foot table at home will benefit my game incrementally when I go out to play n gamble on 9 foot tables at my local pool hall

I can't see how it could hurt. Going from a nine footer to a seven foot table is more drastic than from a nine to a ten that's for sure. With a ten footer you'll always be workin' Whitey and improving your swing, that's a good thing.
 
Cezar Morales said:
Thank you for your response Chuck :)

But, may i ask if u practice or play regularly on a 10 foot table or do u have a 10 foot table at home ??

Im just asking so i'll be easier to evaluate if i should sell my 9 footer and buy a 10 footer :)

And yes, i really agree that playing down seems much easier when i hang out at a bar which have 7 or 8 ft tables, i seem to hold table all night but players there are normally at least 2 speed below me lol
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No, last time I played on a 10' was probably 20 years ago. But I use to screw around and practice 9 ball on a 12' snooker table set up with tight golf pockets at a pool hall a buddy owned.
As to getting rid of your table in favor of a 10', I say no. Not unless your 9 footer is in bad shape. The potential gains arent enough to go to that extent.
Chuck
 
I love practicing and playing on the 10 ft table in the poolroom that I go to. I like it because I do think it helps, but also just because it's the best playing table in the room. If I had a 9 ft that played well I probably wouldn't replace it for a 10 ft.
 
Probably the best player in my hometown plays on a 10 foot table for that reason.

Here is another one to think about. You hear novice players talking about playing on a "REAL TIGHT" table and how it improves a player.

I have seen first hand, that this is BULL$HIT. The pool room in my hometown had a table "tightened" so the pockets were smaller.

HERE IS THE PROBLEM;

The best players in town played on that table, and then changed what they shot and how they shot it. It didn't help their game at all.
For example, if there was a fairly long shot that required very precise pocketing and if they missed it they would have sold out the game. So what did they do? They would play safe. They didn't improve at all. So whenever I hear how changing this, or changing that will improve their game, I smile because look at other sports (ie baseball, football, basketball) they just practice on the field or stadium they are going to play on.

Why you improved is not because you play on 9 foot table verses a bar box. Its because you play on 9 foot table, you now play better on 9 foot table.

JMO,

Ken
 
I think the 10ft will help with certain types of shots, but overall if you are gambling on 9ft practicing there would be best.

How good are you on the 9ft and what specifically are you looking to work on your game? Pattern, shot making ability, etc... The 10ft will play very different and might even hurt you confidence lol j/k

But if you have the space and the $ it would be sweet!
 
You got that right!!

Ken_4fun said:
Probably the best player in my hometown plays on a 10 foot table for that reason.

Here is another one to think about. You hear novice players talking about playing on a "REAL TIGHT" table and how it improves a player.

I have seen first hand, that this is BULL$HIT. The pool room in my hometown had a table "tightened" so the pockets were smaller.

HERE IS THE PROBLEM;

The best players in town played on that table, and then changed what they shot and how they shot it. It didn't help their game at all.


JMO,

Ken
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Your Right!
I hate it when I hear guys talking about playing on a super tight table and how much better that makes the game, it is BS. Theres a really tight table in the room I play in and no one gambles on it, not even the people who say they LOVE REALLY TIGHT TABLES. If they do gamble on it, its against weaker players, never against equal or stronger players!
 
Practicing on 10 Foot tables

Chuck Fields said:
No, last time I played on a 10' was probably 20 years ago. But I use to screw around and practice 9 ball on a 12' snooker table set up with tight golf pockets at a pool hall a buddy owned.
As to getting rid of your table in favor of a 10', I say no. Not unless your 9 footer is in bad shape. The potential gains arent enough to go to that extent.
Chuck
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Hey Chuck,
I thought that was really interesting about playing 9ball on a snooker table :)

Do u mind sharing how beneficial that was to your game ?

Were u ever able to break n run out cuz that seems virtually impossible lollll

Hey guys, since buying my table, i improved tremendously and i was able to hide my speed n " steal " on couple occasions when players thought that i was of the same speed.

However against seasoned players, my home table advantage appears to wear off as they dont miss either and i was thinking practicing on a 10 ft table may give me an edge over em in the long run as im practicing on " MORE DIFFICULT CONDITIONS " I would say ??

Think about this way, i've seen snookers players never played pool broke n run n have an apparent shot-making advantage while the average pool players struggles to put together a 20 point break feels the transition is like going from your swimming pool to the ocean ?!!

Darren appleton, Jayson Shaw , Tony Drago etc were ex snooker pro who won world pool tournaments while no pool players ever made it succesfully ib the snooker curcuit.

Thus im wondering if practicing on " Tougher Conditions " will improve our game by leaps n bounds ??

Please everybody, feel free to state yout opinion, criticisms of my opinion are definitely welcome to keep this discussion open :)

Will especially love to hear from those who own your own 10 foot home tables about playing down n benefits i never thought of :))

Sincerely
Ryan
 
Ken_4fun said:
Probably the best player in my hometown plays on a 10 foot table for that reason.

Here is another one to think about. You hear novice players talking about playing on a "REAL TIGHT" table and how it improves a player.

I have seen first hand, that this is BULL$HIT. The pool room in my hometown had a table "tightened" so the pockets were smaller.

HERE IS THE PROBLEM;

The best players in town played on that table, and then changed what they shot and how they shot it. It didn't help their game at all.
For example, if there was a fairly long shot that required very precise pocketing and if they missed it they would have sold out the game. So what did they do? They would play safe. They didn't improve at all. So whenever I hear how changing this, or changing that will improve their game, I smile because look at other sports (ie baseball, football, basketball) they just practice on the field or stadium they are going to play on.

Why you improved is not because you play on 9 foot table verses a bar box. Its because you play on 9 foot table, you now play better on 9 foot table.

JMO,

Ken
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Hello Ken, thank you for ur opinion :) May i start a healthy discussion on what u just said n seek ur opinion as im looking to imrpove my knowledge from seasoned vets like ya :)

Btw i'm Taiwanese American and i go back for vacation 3 mths a yr and i spent my vavation playing w semi pros n pros incl Chang Jung Ling, Ko Pin Yi n Yang Ching Shun.
ALL THESE players grew up practicing on tight pockets n look at how successful they are under pressure incl money games, the population of Taiwan ( 15 million ) vs population of America and yet Taiwan is able to churn out champions after champions on a consistent basis givez us smth to wonder about ?!!

F.Y.I i see myself as American n a tourist when i go back to Taiwan, stayed im wild wild west too long loll
 
Hey Ken n everybody, one of my favourite players is Tony Drago , hes the fastest pool player yet hes so consistent running racks as if these pockets were buckets.

And i seem to notice that he doesnt strive for perfect positioning like the likes of Reyes or Busyamante, he just needs whitey in middle of table n you're dead :)

So just wondering if we should improve our shot making, if snooker players can do it, why cant we do it to strive for perfection in the game we love ??

Thanks everybody

Sincerely,
Ryan
 
I believe it will indeed make ball pocketing easier on the smaller table, however it could seriously mess up your position play. I wouldn't recommend it unless you are just practicing long shots with no thoughts on position. By the way, where are you practicing on a 10-footer at?! haha
 
I have a 10' with ~ 4 1/8 - 4 1/4 pockets, and my game improved tremendously, going to a 9' is like playing on a Bar Box
If you have room, switch to 10'.
Jason
 
Cezar Morales said:
Darren appleton, Jayson Shaw , Tony Drago etc were ex snooker pro who won world pool tournaments while no pool players ever made it succesfully ib the snooker curcuit.
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Minor correction: Appleton and Shaw were not snooker players. They grew up on English 8-ball which is played on a 6- or 7-foot table. Drago was/is a snooker player.
 
what about the other champions??

Cezar Morales said:
Btw i'm Taiwanese American and i go back for vacation 3 mths a yr and i spent my vavation playing w semi pros n pros incl Chang Jung Ling, Ko Pin Yi n Yang Ching Shun.
ALL THESE players grew up practicing on tight pockets n look at how successful they are under pressure incl money games, the population of Taiwan ( 15 million ) vs population of America and yet Taiwan is able to churn out champions after champions on a consistent basis givez us smth to wonder about ?!!
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Well all the Philippino's play on buckets and they have produced more champ's consistently then any other country? They shoot as straight as any human can!

So do super tight pockets help, if you want to practice shooting, great, but if you want to learn how to play, you have to learn how to play.

Buddy Hall says "the game should not be a shooting contest, it should be about the guy that plays the game the best and when you make the pockets so tight that guys cant make shots, it changes the game into a who can shoot the straightest"
 
I agree for the most part..,

Cezar Morales said:
Hey Ken n everybody, one of my favourite players is Tony Drago , hes the fastest pool player yet hes so consistent running racks as if these pockets were buckets.

And i seem to notice that he doesnt strive for perfect positioning like the likes of Reyes or Busyamante, he just needs whitey in middle of table n you're dead :)

So just wondering if we should improve our shot making, if snooker players can do it, why cant we do it to strive for perfection in the game we love ??

Thanks everybody

Sincerely,
Ryan
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I think that shot making is the most important fact, but I think the more you stay out of line, the more trouble you run into under pressure.

I don't think Tony Drago would play Efren or Busty even anything even thou he might out shoot them?

Its about playing the whole game!
 
I think practicing on a 10' table will help you make the long shots on a 9' easier but how much will playing on that 10' table change your game because soon you will stop playing certain shots that you cant reach on that 10' that you can reach on a 9' table. When I first got my 9' table it seemed huge and the BB seemed small, after 3 years there does not seem to be much difference, its just another table,
 
SureShot21 said:
I believe it will indeed make ball pocketing easier on the smaller table, however it could seriously mess up your position play. I wouldn't recommend it unless you are just practicing long shots with no thoughts on position. By the way, where are you practicing on a 10-footer at?! haha
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I have a home table thats 9 ft but im deciding if i should upgrade to a 10 foot table .

However im just wondering if the cost of a 10 foot table will justify my reasons to increase my learning curve.

Perhaps after investing in a 10 foot table will help me in my gambling which i will be able to recover my investment :wink: loll

Buy im not counting on it, im just a passionate player whos 26 yrs, fresh outta college and i just wanna improve as much as i can before i grow old n focus on other priorities lol

For those reading this thread, im weighing the benefits before deciding to sell my 9 ft table n buy a 10 ft table :D


Sincerely
Ryan
 
Hey there buddy, ya're right , Drago's way off but if u watch him play efren in world pool master on youtube, he basically shot his way outta trouble for a tie which to me is really exiciting considering he ran most racks in less than 2 minutes which 30 seconds was spent adjusting his pants which seemed to drop after every rack !!

Btw Drago was crowned World Pool Master which is a pretty mean feat for a snooker player considering he overcome a field of top pool players like Souquet ( boring lol ) mika efren Pagulayan etc etc.

Thus im thinking as pool players , maybe we overlooked shot making and often over- rely on positioning??
 
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