Playing Nine Ball Ghost....Feel Free to Critique

Not necessarily, he's not saying to you should give less consideration but rather perhaps you perform at a quicker pace. I haven't watched all of your videos but finding your rhythm is an important part of the learning process. Also keep in mind even quick players do take pause when needed, for example I've seen Ronnie O'Sullivan slow down and carefully consider his options. But when things are obvious he doesn't waste any time.

Good point -- you're right. Thanks for the correction. I have always admired the guys that can play fast and I wish I could. Whenever, I try to play faster I end up making stupid mistakes. I'm still working on getting the whole rhythm thing figured out.
 
In your first game your ball in hand, your angle from your five to the six was critically simple and you put draw? on a simple lag roll shot to the 5, and on your next shot, you should of been above the six....you just lackadasically rolled down to the six (you had to elevate, and cue ball had a small hop) accepting your shape which is poor planning, you should of had a very comfortable bridge hand position to either stop on the 6, roll down and up on the six to the seven or two rails out to the seven. Also, on your shot from the 7 to the 8, you should play precise shape and get closer to the 8 (you actuall drew the cue ball away from the 8) you should of landed on the head rail, close and below the 8 for a natural cut lag to the long rail for shape on the 9. I don't need to look at the rest of your play as you seem to get where you want to but not exactly where you should be, this type of play will get you in allot of trouble in the long haul.

I agree with your first comment regarding my lazy position down to the six ball. I definitely need to plan better and play precise shape. Your second comment about playing closer to the 8 ball - I don't agree with. I suppose I could have played for the middle of the end rail but I wouldn't want to aim to get any closer than that. If I was to hit it real bad and end up right on top of the 8, would you then say - "you shouldn't have tried to get so close to that 8 ball"? Having said that, I have taken note and I need to play more precise shape.
 
I hesitate to give advice to people because I'm not a great player and from that short video it is hard to determine how much you do or don't know.

At 4:45 going from the 5 to the 6 you ran into the 6 and ended up with a more difficult shot than you needed to. Two things: I couldn't tell for sure but it appeared you could have gone two rails with low outside back to the middle of the table for the 6. If you don't already know the plus two system you should check out Dr Dave or Bob Jewett's videos, it will enable you to predict accurately what angle the cue ball will take on a two rail shot like that. The other thing is you got the wrong angle going forward one rail. I would suggest some 14.1 or equal offense. That type of shot comes up a lot in those games.

The other shot was at 8:40 when you caught the point trying to go three rails to get shape for the 7 in the side. A simpler way to play that without pounding the ball would have been to go forward one rail with for the 7 in the corner up table. Regardless of which side of the 7 you get on you have a relatively easy shot to get on the 9.

You appear to be a good player. At your age if you focus on improving you have the potential to start finishing high in tournaments.

Good luck.

Jaden beat you to it on that 1st shot that you mentioned (see post #6). I agree with what you said though - I should have come around 2 rails. Your second suggestion I'm on the fence about. A 3rd choice would be to just play it 2 rails under the 8, then I could have slid over for the 9. I wouldn't want to be straight on that 8 though, then it would have been tough to get to the 9. Going 3 rails makes it almost impossible to have a difficult path over to the 9. Not sure about that one.
 
I know its supposed to be a critique, but when you only miss two balls, that's pretty tough.

Great set.

What type of setup do you have; it looked like the table was playing a little bit slow.

Also, Classicbilliards.net might have a replacement counter for your table.

It's a 9 foot old AMF table. Mark Griffin said he thought it was a Grand Prix (I think that' what he said). It has 860 Simonis on it but it does play slow. I sort of set it up that way on purpose because the center slate is cracked and I did my best to repair it but it doesn't roll perfectly. I've checked on the net for those counters and I haven't been able to locate one. The only thing I have come across are the square ones. At this point, I really want to upgrade to a Diamond or a Gold Crown depending on what I can get my hands on.
 
"It's not funny, I just keep making it."

Eat your heart out Keith McCready. The kid is a natural talent and he's got charisma.

Awesome.
 
I. Your second comment about playing closer to the 8 ball - I don't agree with. I suppose I could have played for the middle of the end rail but I wouldn't want to aim to get any closer than that.


I'm trying to understand your logic, why is it better to slightly draw the cue ball when striking the 7, thus putting it further away from the 8, when the natural roll puts it closer to the eight?
 
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Good point -- you're right. Thanks for the correction. I have always admired the guys that can play fast and I wish I could. Whenever, I try to play faster I end up making stupid mistakes. I'm still working on getting the whole rhythm thing figured out.

it doesn't matter what speed anyone plays at. top players who play quickly pay no less attention, and are no more carefree than slower or seemingly more methodical players. the precision they try to achieve in their positional play or shotmaking is no different in either case! pace of play comes from their development of a preshot routine at a pace that they are comfortable with, that allows for them to concentrate and perform the task at hand. for more naturally gifted players (ie. ronnie o'sullivan, or an earl strickland) a quicker pace of play is easier, however keep in mind that individuals such as these are exceptional talents, one in a million, and should not be emulated. ronnie or earl play the way they do, not because they copied someone, but because they came into their own through practice and natural ability.

don't waste your time trying to copy others, find your own game, whether it's faster or more methodical, by achieving goals in what you want to accomplish shot by shot. if ie. you need to stun a ball around two rails and leave the cueball in the middle of the table inside a 10" circle, take as much time as you need to visualize, feel the shot, and steady your nerve, before you execute.

i used to love trying to emulate quicker players, they seemed to make the game look so easy. but in doing so i found that in high pressure situations, it was difficult to pace myself, and found i played too fast, especially when it mattered the most, nearing the end of a rack. sometimes things worked out ok, but sometimes they didn't, and there's no excuse for not being able to get out after all the hard work was done.

also, even when you've figured out everything there is to do with a shot, many times it pays off to intentionally drag it out a bit, give yourself time to steady your nerve, before you get down to execute. just because you may know what to do, doesn't mean your body is ready to do it. pool is like a mini biathlon, run around the table, get down, steady your nerve, get up, and do it all over again. keep practicing and goodluck!
 
Jaden beat you to it on that 1st shot that you mentioned (see post #6). I agree with what you said though - I should have come around 2 rails. Your second suggestion I'm on the fence about. A 3rd choice would be to just play it 2 rails under the 8, then I could have slid over for the 9. I wouldn't want to be straight on that 8 though, then it would have been tough to get to the 9. Going 3 rails makes it almost impossible to have a difficult path over to the 9. Not sure about that one.

When you get to be my age and you have caught the point of the side pocket another thousand times, you will see the peril in slamming the ball in the side and going three rails. If you are trying to impress your friends that is a cool shot. If you are trying to get the money, you run the risk of doing exactly what you did in the video.
 
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