playing pocket speed

the most frequent time i hear the term "pocket speed" used is when playing one pocket
That's my immediate thought too, and the game I like for honing OB and CB speed skills - you have to control both on most shots, to close tolerances. For instance, it isn't uncommon to want the OB to stop just short of the pocket rather than go in.

pj
chgo
 
I mean petty sniping based on personal animosity rather than what's on the screen.

Having forum "enemies".

It's dumb, childish and disruptive.

pj
chgo

And I still don't know the difference between ability and skill.

In the spirit of having enemies, and being dumb, childish and disruptive, you never will.

One is innate and one is learned. Through books and that. :wink:
 
That's my immediate thought too, and the game I like for honing OB and CB speed skills - you have to control both on most shots, to close tolerances. For instance, it isn't uncommon to want the OB to stop just short of the pocket rather than go in.

pj
chgo

God, this is worse than i thought.
 
In my experience, "pocket speed" is hitting an OB so that if it does not go, it hangs up in the jaws. "Speed control" is controlling the CB so that it travels the precise distance the player desires.

Lou Figueroa
 
That is not playing pocket speed. You have to hit the ball with sufficient energy to a) make the ball and b) gain shape.

It is not about hitting the ball slowly. It is about hitting the ball correctly. This is crucial on tough tables.

And therin lies the problem - you don't know what the definition of the term 'pocket speed' is.

What you describe might be called perfect-position-playing-speed or sumpin',
but it ain't Pocket Speed.

Dale
 
If you have to choose between optimal pocketing speed and optimal position speed (OB vs. CB control), which way do you lean?

pj
chgo
 
Actually, I was complaining about him "targeting" me. You think he was being likeable in his comment to me?
You seem pretty eager to complain too...
pj
chgo

You mean about telling you that you were wrong? That's targeting to you?
Your ego is beyond measure, Johnson.
 
If you have to choose between optimal pocketing speed and optimal position speed (OB vs. CB control), which way do you lean?

pj
chgo


For me, I guess that would depend on how critical pocket speed would be, like on a lower percentage bank where I could also hide the CB, I'd choose pocket speed. Running balls, CB speed. Rotation games it'd almost always have to be CB speed (I seem to recall).

On further reflection, I'd have to say there there is also pocketing speed. On many tables pocketing speed is different from pocket speed, or maybe just a different type of pocket speed because on rail shots you have to figure on hitting the OB hard enough to hit the far facing then the opposite facing before it will drop.

Lou Figueroa
 
In the spirit of having enemies, and being dumb, childish and disruptive, you never will.

One is innate and one is learned. Through books and that. :wink:

a·bil·i·ty


/əˈbilədē/


noun

noun: ability; plural noun: abilities



1.


possession of the means or skill to do something.
"the manager had lost his ability to motivate the players"


synonyms: capacity, capability, potential, potentiality, power, faculty, aptness, facility; More
wherewithal, means


"the ability to read and write"





2.


talent, skill, or proficiency in a particular area.
"a man of exceptional ability"


synonyms: talent, skill, expertise, adeptness, aptitude, skillfulness, savoir faire, prowess, mastery, accomplishment; More
..............................................................................................................

Thank God for Google

Dale
 
In my experience, "pocket speed" is hitting an OB so that if it does not go, it hangs up in the jaws. "Speed control" is controlling the CB so that it travels the precise distance the player desires.

Lou Figueroa

Obviously you have too much language skill to post about pool. :)

Just make up your own definitions for common terms.

Dale
 
a·bil·i·ty


/əˈbilədē/


noun

noun: ability; plural noun: abilities



1.


possession of the means or skill to do something.
"the manager had lost his ability to motivate the players"


synonyms: capacity, capability, potential, potentiality, power, faculty, aptness, facility; More
wherewithal, means


"the ability to read and write"





2.


talent, skill, or proficiency in a particular area.
"a man of exceptional ability"


synonyms: talent, skill, expertise, adeptness, aptitude, skillfulness, savoir faire, prowess, mastery, accomplishment; More
..............................................................................................................

Thank God for Google

Dale

Great, then you (and google) can educate patrick and leave the rest of us the hell alone.
 
Having forum "enemies".

It's dumb, childish and disruptive.

pj
chgo

And I still don't know the difference between ability and skill.

I agree 100% on forum enemies. I agree with you on many of the technical aspects of pool too, how can I not, much of it is common knowledge through the work of Dr. Dave, Jack Koehler and Robert Byrne.

As a non native speaker of English I can also empathize with your views on "ability" vs. skill. I thought that when one talked about ability as referring to a persons talent or genetic potential, one would usually use the term "talent" or in some cases (but not all) "innate ability". Yours is a tricky language...
 
For me, I guess that would depend on how critical pocket speed would be, like on a lower percentage bank where I could also hide the CB, I'd choose pocket speed. Running balls, CB speed. Rotation games it'd almost always have to be CB speed (I seem to recall).

On further reflection, I'd have to say there there is also pocketing speed. On many tables pocketing speed is different from pocket speed, or maybe just a different type of pocket speed because on rail shots you have to figure on hitting the OB hard enough to hit the far facing then the opposite facing before it will drop.

Lou Figueroa
It doesn't come up that often for me, but I tend to favor positional speed - I suppose because CB control is the part of pool I like best. Pocketing is more the means to that end for me.

pj
chgo
 
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