Please help identify this Unmarked cue

How about Bert Schrager? I've found a couple of examples of his cues that are similar, what do you think?
 
Still no leads....I've got some emails in to a few cuemakers that might be able to point me in the right direction.
 
Well, not much has really surfaced about this cue. Hopefully someone will be able to recognize something....
 
Bert

I think its a Schrager and that's why it looks like a Martin which it does. Martin used a different pin and Schrager used pins like this. Those hash marks aren't Ernie's but I imagine are a "tribute" to him, just as many of the aspects are trubutes to Martin.

Please bear in mind that there are plenty of folks out here that know way more about both Martin and Schrager than I, however, I was just talking to Ernie about a cue that he showed me some work on that he attributed to Schrager and it was that pin in that joint with those rings on the shafts.

Kevin
 
kvinbrwr said:
I think its a Schrager and that's why it looks like a Martin which it does. Martin used a different pin and Schrager used pins like this. Those hash marks aren't Ernie's but I imagine are a "tribute" to him, just as many of the aspects are trubutes to Martin.

Please bear in mind that there are plenty of folks out here that know way more about both Martin and Schrager than I, however, I was just talking to Ernie about a cue that he showed me some work on that he attributed to Schrager and it was that pin in that joint with those rings on the shafts.

Kevin
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Agreed, the pin is different than what would be used on a Martin. He used primarily aluminum pins that were shaped differently.
 
Thanks for the comments. I was leaning towards an early Schrager.

I sent an email to Ernie to see if it looked like anything to him, but never received a response.
 
lol. that pin looks like brass to me. i too have never seen a matrin with points. i believe i read HM felt points weakened the cue structurally so he did not build cues with points.

good luck with your search could be anyone. failry simple design. did u contact laurie from southwest. are you sure its 10 pin not 11.
 
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the joint on this cue looks like buckhorn to me it's similar to a huebler chess king i had back in the 80's with buckhorn furells on the shafts the had a slight off white and a bit of a grain to them. about how old is the cue? not possible an old viking is it?
 
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It's definitely a 3/8x10 pin. The joint could be buckhorn, but I'm not ruling out ivory since the finish on the cue is what makes it look off-white. Either one is fine with me. It's definitely not an old viking. I don't know how old it is, but it has definitely been around several years.
 
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What cue makers have you contacted? If I hadn't contacted ed young I think I would to rule out kersenbrock. I've heard he experimented with different pins. good luck finding who made it.
 
Back to the top for maybe a few more ideas. I've sent out several emails, but nothing definitive yet.

Basically what I've gathered so far is that it is probably from a West Coast cuemaker that may have used Martin and/or Kersenbrock as inspiration. I believe the cue is from the late 60's.

I personally think it is an early Schrager cue since he was one of the first, if not the first to build a 6-point cue, he used this type of joint, he was inspired by Martin, and he did not sign/mark his early cues. However, I'm not sure if I can verify this very easily....

Any more thoughts?
 
Just a little bump. Still coming up with dead ends.

I'm still leaning towards it being an early Schrager....but haven't been able to confirm it.
 
Just thought I would bump this after almost 2 1/2 months just to see if there was more ideas or if someone else happens to recognize something!
 
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