Please Help - Who Is Vincent Hadamard ?

bklynjava said:
I asked for confirmation that he is a Cue maker/craftsman and would like to see his work and info. His response could have been in a PM and kept confidential. But he dodged it and got on the defense. :rolleyes:

I just received a PM from a fellow AZR with some details that could be correct it's just his guess though he asked that I keep it confidential no problem.

I wish the PM was from Hadamard though considering my Original Post on what I wanted to see and know about him.



He could have sent me a PM
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Lots of things he could have done. I still don't know why he has to dance to your tune. He doesn't sell his product to the public and one of the benefits of that is he doesn't have to deal with the expectations of the public.

Here's what it looked like to me. The guy makes a prototype for a deal he has with a manufacturer and you end up with it (or the possibility of owning it). He doesn't sell cues to the public so he's very interested in finding out how you came to be in possession of his prototype. You are far more interested in verifying the stuff the guy who wants to sell/ trade you the cue claimed about the maker. Your nose gets out of joint.

Thanks

Kevin
 
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kvinbrwr said:
Joe

Take a look at post 17 and post 27.

Thanks

Kevin
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Nothing that I said or implied in either of those posts.

The poster said that he would not trade for the cue and would burn it out of spite. Somewhat strong and something I would not expect him to do if it were his cue...still nothing that insults the supposed cue maker.

The OP started this thread hoping to determine a value after being told this was a prototype. It still has not been identified as such, and the person who supposed built it has not identified himself as a cue maker.

If you know the guy or of his cue making prowess, share it with us. How much would the cue be worth to you, as currently described/identified.
Joe
 
Bamacues said:
Nothing that I said or implied in either of those posts.

The poster said that he would not trade for the cue and would burn it out of spite. Somewhat strong and something I would not expect him to do if it were his cue...still nothing that insults the supposed cue maker.

The OP started this thread hoping to determine a value after being told this was a prototype. It still has not been identified as such, and the person who supposed built it has not identified himself as a cue maker.

If you know the guy or of his cue making prowess, share it with us. How much would the cue be worth to you, as currently described/identified.
Joe
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Joe

I never said you said anything about the guy. I saw people saying that he was a wrong guy and his posts looked quite straightforward and informative to me.

Value? Please. The cue is just another SW Asian knock-off. Why anyone would need a prototype is beyond me. Maybe they need someone to copy a SW so they can copy that, who knows (or cares)?

It was the guy that pitched the cue that described the maker as noted, not the maker himself. I see no reason the maker should have to back up the claims some guy selling his cue (that he himself had never offered for sale) made.

Thanks

Kevin
 
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kvinbrwr said:
Joe

I never said you said anything about the guy. I saw people saying that he was a wrong guy and his posts looked quite straightforward and informative to me.

Value? Please. The cue is just another SW Asian knock-off. Why anyone would need a prototype is beyond me. Maybe they need someone to copy a SW so they can copy that, who knows (or cares)?

It was the guy that pitched the cue that described the maker as noted, not the maker himself. I see no reason the maker should have to back up the claims some guy selling his cue (that he himself had never offered for sale) made.

Thanks

Kevin
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Here's my take on the entire thing. The OP was asking for what amounts to intellectual property, as the cue designer is under contract. The designer NEVER had a chance to see the cue in question before being bashed. After he understood how a cue that should not be public yet was made public, he was nothing but polite and offered to identify it. As for asking fro his credentials, that would be like asking a software designer at Microsoft to show you his code. Even if he wanted to, he wouldn't be able to because his designs are owned by someone else. I think the OP went overboard asking questions of the designer that were none of his (the OP) business.

Chris
 
Forgot to mention.. the Southwest knockoff was the one being traded BY the OP, not the one he was trading for. The one he posted pics of in the thread are the pics of the cue he was supposed to get.

Chris
 
Devilish48 said:
Forgot to mention.. the Southwest knockoff was the one being traded BY the OP, not the one he was trading for. The one he posted pics of in the thread are the pics of the cue he was supposed to get.

Chris
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Looks to me that he traded a 6pt SW knockoff from Seyberts for the "prototype" pj SW knockoff.
Joe
 
Looks like an MIT cue from Taiwan to me, assuming that is a 3/8-11 pin. Prototype or production, not sure that would make any difference to me. I'm thinking it would be almost impossible to prove either way, other than the fact that the cue doesn't appear to have any marks on it. Seems like a prototype would have something somewhere to denote what it was. Under the wrap, under the bumper, whatever, although the guy that claims to have made it says it will have no markings.


bklynjava said:
Thanks Joe, I appreciate you trying to help out.

Here are pics of the cue I recieved and what I traded for it.
My Cue with 2 shafts --> http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=295713
All I wanted was verification that Vincent Hadamard is in fact a fine cue craftsman with proof. Why hasn't he sent me a PM showing me anything?

He asks me to show the cue I traded for - Whats he going to say - "Yes that's the cue I made it's ebony etc etc etc"

I was told this

My decision to go forward was based on this information, Doctorlove was I believe honest and sincere throughout the deal we made.

I am not saying anything about Doctorlove.

I am asking for Hadamard to simply show me some of his work and credentials as a cuemaker.



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kvinbrwr said:
Lots of things he could have done. I still don't know why he has to dance to your tune. He doesn't sell his product to the public and one of the benefits of that is he doesn't have to deal with the expectations of the public.

Here's what it looked like to me. The guy makes a prototype for a deal he has with a manufacturer and you end up with it (or the possibility of owning it). He doesn't sell cues to the public so he's very interested in finding out how you came to be in possession of his prototype. You are far more interested in verifying the stuff the guy who wants to sell/ trade you the cue claimed about the maker. Your nose gets out of joint.

Thanks

Kevin
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As soon as he came in here he opened himself up to the public. I had no expectations until he joined and responded to my thread which was already dead. As for the guy I made the deal with, it was his recommendation for me to post here asking about Hadamard cause the community could probably help.
 
bklynjava said:
As soon as he came in here he opened himself up to the public. I had no expectations until he joined and responded to my thread which was already dead. As for the guy I made the deal with, it was his recommendation for me to post here asking about Hadamard cause the community could probably help.
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I thought he was a very straightforward and helpful guy.

Thanks

Kevin
 
Your facebook page is not linked... instead it is linked to a search of your name.. your profile is on the list but not linked directly.
 
Thank you for your comment Billyard, you are right.

I've finished reading the whole thread and I guess that what I'll prefer is for it to be deleted completely, as it focus on me and my work and it appears on the google searches. I don't want that kind of attention on me, so I'll like to as the original poster and the moderators to erase it, if they agree, as it doesn't include any information and yet has some unpleasant remarks.

Thank you all in advance for your help.
 
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I have seen at least one instance, not just on these forums where some guy posts an item for sale, usually as their first post. Then a second later another user comes up, also as a first post and states "WOW you have that rare thingie that is worth seven billion dollars! For only $49.99, what a deal, I'll offer you $100, don't sell it for so little!".

People are just trying to make sure that the cue was made by the person it was said to be made by instead of the same person who is pretending to be the cue maker. Which is why there are all the questions.
 
hang-the-9 said:
I have seen at least one instance, not just on these forums where some guy posts an item for sale, usually as their first post. Then a second later another user comes up, also as a first post and states "WOW you have that rare thingie that is worth seven billion dollars! For only $49.99, what a deal, I'll offer you $100, don't sell it for so little!".

People are just trying to make sure that the cue was made by the person it was said to be made by instead of the same person who is pretending to be the cue maker. Which is why there are all the questions.
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Well "hang-the-9" it's obvious that this is not the case and that's exactly the reason why I would like to have the post removed.

After the deal was made I came to ask a question and to offer my help to identify the cue. I was no part of the deal, that was already been done by two respected memberers of this forum (both with a perfect transaction record).

To a certain point I understand your suspicions, but I don't have to take them and see my name and link to find my Facebook account here. That's why I request for this thread to be eliminated, to avoid people having strange thoughts with me in the middle.
 
Hadamard offered to buy back the cue from me. Thanks for the offer but I will keep it for awhile :thumbup:
 
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