Pool movie you may not have seen on youtube

I didn't understand the link until I saw the shot at the 8:22 mark. Then I finally realized, OMG, what a great video! Please watch until that point!
 
Probably the worst pool movie ever made, and I was in it. :wink:
I was an extra, playing a pool player no less. Jerry Breisath was Whoopie's coach. She was absolutely helpless at the table, maybe a dozen "takes" just to make one hanger! She was worse than any amateur player you ever saw. It was all Jerry could do just to get her to hold the cue and point it in the right direction. And she was cast as a pool hustler. Go figure.

The only good thing was I met my long time friend Dorian Harewood. When we realized we both came from Dayton we became fast friends. Dorian could play a little, a decent amateur player. He was in a lot of good movies and TV shows. He starred in Oliver Stone's "Platoon" and played the lead on long running television show Viper.
 
I rented that movie some years ago because it was a pool movie so I figured , "what the hell?"
Not only was it the worst pool movie ever, but the worst movie, PERIOD!
Maybe it's why I like Poolhall Junkies so much. Kiss Shot so lowered my standards that I'll never recover
 
I own it...... Glad he posted the link.... guess what I am going to make the kids watch this week while I have them =D dbl feature.... Kiss Shot followed by the baltimore bullet... Next week... Pool Hall Junkies and Shooting Gallery...
 
Probably the worst pool movie ever made, and I was in it. :wink:
I was an extra, playing a pool player no less. Jerry Breisath was Whoopie's coach. She was absolutely helpless at the table, maybe a dozen "takes" just to make one hanger! She was worse than any amateur player you ever saw. It was all Jerry could do just to get her to hold the cue and point it in the right direction. And she was cast as a pool hustler. Go figure.

The only good thing was I met my long time friend Dorian Harewood. When we realized we both came from Dayton we became fast friends. Dorian could play a little, a decent amateur player. He was in a lot of good movies and TV shows. He starred in Oliver Stone's "Platoon" and played the lead on long running television show Viper.
The sad part is, someone put up the money and they actually went through the trouble to make the movie in the first place. As long as you are going to all the trouble would it not make more sense to make a good movie.

I was in few episodes of "Miami Vice". The reason I was there the first time was to set up a pool table they had bought from me that was to be flipped over in a fight. I replaced the slate with plywood so the actor could actually do it without any tricks.

They were going to attach wires to it but when I was done it flipped over easily with no help. I did such a good job on the table you could actually play on the thing and I choreographed the shots that lead up to the fight and it looked good.

My point is, they spent like a half a day doing this bar scene I was surprised how hard they worked to get everything just right. So you have to wonder, what is in the minds of some of these movie makers when they make really bad movies. Do they just not see what it is they are doing and how bad it is at the time? I am sure the crew must know.

Not everything has to be Citizen Kane and it is not possible to make a great movie on purpose, those movies just happen. But, this is the business they are in though, how can they do it so badly sometimes and it seems to be like that with every pool related movie.

I remember when Baltimore Bullet came out. Opening night at the first evening showing like every pool player in the area was there. We must have taken up a third of the theater. We were squirming in our seats it was so bad.

From the story line, to the idiotic dialogue, to the horrible pool scenes it was almost uncomfortable to watch. Even the acting was bad and someone actually made that mess and was happy with it.
 
I can't believe I watched the whole thing...damned trite formula with a script written by an 8th grade writing class?

Throughout I kept remembering an interview given by Michael Caine. (sp?)

The host asked him why he appeared in some bad movies...very B grade & poorly done as this one was.

His answer was that he was working...and that he got paid to work.
 
I didn't think it was to bad, just a bit corny. It needed to be tightened up and sleezed up a bit. That and the ending...did she win the tourney or lose to her love interest and he in turn gave her the funds to pay off the balloon note? Leaving that unresolved was lame.

Jay, where abouts are you in the movie? I must be blind but I missed ya in there.
 
Probably the worst pool movie ever made, and I was in it. :wink:
I was an extra, playing a pool player no less. Jerry Breisath was Whoopie's coach. She was absolutely helpless at the table, maybe a dozen "takes" just to make one hanger! She was worse than any amateur player you ever saw. It was all Jerry could do just to get her to hold the cue and point it in the right direction. And she was cast as a pool hustler. Go figure.

The only good thing was I met my long time friend Dorian Harewood. When we realized we both came from Dayton we became fast friends. Dorian could play a little, a decent amateur player. He was in a lot of good movies and TV shows. He starred in Oliver Stone's "Platoon" and played the lead on long running television show Viper.

In part 8 at 5:12 I was surprised to see instructor Robert Byrne at the table.
 
I have it on my Browser tab and have been watching bits and pieces.

Might not be the best pool Movie ever made but its like we say up here in the Great White North.

"Its better than a kick in the Ass with a Frozen Mukluk".
 
I have it on my Browser tab and have been watching bits and pieces.

Might not be the best pool Movie ever made but its like we say up here in the Great White North.

"Its better than a kick in the Ass with a Frozen Mukluk".

I would think it depends on who is delivering that kick
 
I didn't think it was to bad, just a bit corny. It needed to be tightened up and sleezed up a bit. That and the ending...did she win the tourney or lose to her love interest and he in turn gave her the funds to pay off the balloon note? Leaving that unresolved was lame.

Jay, where abouts are you in the movie? I must be blind but I missed ya in there.

I have no idea. I never saw the movie. I was in a scene where she was playing in a tournament. It's entirely possible that a camera angle with me in it was not used in the final cut. I was playing two tables over from Whoopi in the scene. I got three days work, at a buck fifty a day, plus I had to drive to Northern California to be in it. When Jerry called me and invited me I thought it was going to be a big deal movie and cool to be a part of. I was wrong! ;)
 
The sad part is, someone put up the money and they actually went through the trouble to make the movie in the first place. As long as you are going to all the trouble would it not make more sense to make a good movie.

I was in few episodes of "Miami Vice". The reason I was there the first time was to set up a pool table they had bought from me that was to be flipped over in a fight. I replaced the slate with plywood so the actor could actually do it without any tricks.

They were going to attach wires to it but when I was done it flipped over easily with no help. I did such a good job on the table you could actually play on the thing and I choreographed the shots that lead up to the fight and it looked good.

My point is, they spent like a half a day doing this bar scene I was surprised how hard they worked to get everything just right. So you have to wonder, what is in the minds of some of these movie makers when they make really bad movies. Do they just not see what it is they are doing and how bad it is at the time? I am sure the crew must know.

Not everything has to be Citizen Kane and it is not possible to make a great movie on purpose, those movies just happen. But, this is the business they are in though, how can they do it so badly sometimes and it seems to be like that with every pool related movie.

I remember when Baltimore Bullet came out. Opening night at the first evening showing like every pool player in the area was there. We must have taken up a third of the theater. We were squirming in our seats it was so bad.

From the story line, to the idiotic dialogue, to the horrible pool scenes it was almost uncomfortable to watch. Even the acting was bad and someone actually made that mess and was happy with it.


I went to the set of the Baltimore Bullet one day with Jimmy Mataya. All the top players were there and they each had a small part in the film. I sat around and watched them film a few scenes and I thought the dialogue sucked. All the pool players were laughing about it, but they were all getting paid a few hundred a day so they didn't care.

I used to shoot pool with one of the Producers of that film, John "The Dancer" Brescia. He loved pool, but couldn't play that well. He had money though and never played for fun. I would give him the eight ball and beat him every time we played, always making sure that he won a few games. In those days my best customers came from the entertainment industry. In a poolroom full of champions and hustlers, they liked to play me. I was not high profile and always gave the appearance of having money of my own. Plus I never got cocky with them or bragged about winning - until now. :smile:
 
Probably the worst pool movie ever made, and I was in it. :wink:
I was an extra, playing a pool player no less. Jerry Breisath was Whoopie's coach. She was absolutely helpless at the table, maybe a dozen "takes" just to make one hanger! She was worse than any amateur player you ever saw. It was all Jerry could do just to get her to hold the cue and point it in the right direction. And she was cast as a pool hustler. Go figure.

The only good thing was I met my long time friend Dorian Harewood. When we realized we both came from Dayton we became fast friends. Dorian could play a little, a decent amateur player. He was in a lot of good movies and TV shows. He starred in Oliver Stone's "Platoon" and played the lead on long running television show Viper.

Funny thing, when I watched a bit of it, I thought Whoopi had some pretty decent form, although you can't tell that much from a movie where you can edit things.

I just wish they would have kept some semblance of the games actually correct, they are playing 9 ball and half the time they are shooting the balls out of order.

The acting was as good as many other pool movies and better than many other B rate movies. The guy that was Whoopi's backer got huge props for playing a cop on NYPD Blue, don't know if this was before or after this movie.
 
I just wish they would have kept some semblance of the games actually correct, they are playing 9 ball and half the time they are shooting the balls out of order.

Watch some of the shots in 'The Color of Money' and you'll see the same thing.
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