pool player placebo...
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IMHO I think anything that gives you a feeling of having an edge is good for the mental game.
Nope. They are necessary. A pool player can no more play to his potential than, say, a golfer, a fisherman, or a tap dancer. Can you imagine a tap dancer doing one of Sammy Davis Jr's famous routines while wearing a pair of Converse All-Stars? Outrageous! :smile:
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obviously it is ! As long as your cue is straight and with a decent tip, you don't need anything more to play good pool .... To play at professional level I'd add a break cue and a jump, but really nothing too fancy !
This game is 95% player and 5% equipment !
Anyway I dont think that who buys expensive equipment really thinks that it will help to become a better player... they simply enjoy owning beautiful pieces of wood, just like car's and bike's enthusiasts ! I'f you think that a 3000 $ or 30 $ chalk will make you win games you are just a fool :thumbup:
It's the same way in every sport: I've raced with enduro bikes for 10 years and there were plenty of guys with 10000$ bikes + 10000$ of accessories that think that having a good bike is making them fast, but its not
and of course when they got beaten they said it was they're bike faults (oh no the suspension were too soft/hard, my engine was too soft/brutal, etc...
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Every sport is about the man not the machine, although the equipment stands in different percentual importance by different sports, for exemple : 0,0001 % athletics, 5 % pool (or tennis or golf), going up to major relevance in motorsports ...
This game is 95% player and 5% equipment !
Anyway I dont think that who buys expensive equipment really thinks that it will help to become a better player... they simply enjoy owning beautiful pieces of wood, just like car's and bike's enthusiasts ! I'f you think that a 3000 $ or 30 $ chalk will make you win games you are just a fool :thumbup:
It's the same way in every sport: I've raced with enduro bikes for 10 years and there were plenty of guys with 10000$ bikes + 10000$ of accessories that think that having a good bike is making them fast, but its not
and of course when they got beaten they said it was they're bike faults (oh no the suspension were too soft/hard, my engine was too soft/brutal, etc... )Every sport is about the man not the machine, although the equipment stands in different percentual importance by different sports, for exemple : 0,0001 % athletics, 5 % pool (or tennis or golf), going up to major relevance in motorsports ...
In my years of shooting, I have found the tip to be the single most important component of all the pool equipment/gadgets that I have tried. I have experimented with much equipment to have come to this conclusion. A bad tip, or a tip that you just have no confidence in, can be bad news to your pool game.
I can take a less-than-desirable pool cue, put on a good Moori medium, Sniper, or even one of the "good" Triangles on it and shoot good pool with it. Get a Southwest or Black Boar cue and put a piece-of-crap tip on it and see how you play!!!
Maniac (does somewhat believe in the "placebo effect" concerning pool equipment though)
I can take a less-than-desirable pool cue, put on a good Moori medium, Sniper, or even one of the "good" Triangles on it and shoot good pool with it. Get a Southwest or Black Boar cue and put a piece-of-crap tip on it and see how you play!!!
Maniac (does somewhat believe in the "placebo effect" concerning pool equipment though)
Now Joel, do you really believe that Allison, Shane, and Earl, all use out of the box Cuetecs? The butts, probably. The shafts, not bloody likely. :smile:
Yea it's the indian not the arrow, pool is 99% who is holding that cue; but to ignore that 1% is not too smart.
It may matter at the highest levels, I`m not sure. But the best player I ever saw (not counting tour pros) could pick a house cue off the rack and run 100 balls. He would`t even roll it to see if it was straight.
It's the Indian AND the arrow, not either or. Why use inferior equipment? Why did fletchers specialize in making arrows? Why did samurai want the best sword? lol
Please advise the peanut gallery what tests have proved the superiority of any item of pool equipment produced by a particular maker.
If any item from a particular maker is clearly superior, why are there so many alternatives?
Face it. Pool players have an equipment fetish.
Face it. Pool players have an equipment fetish.
No doubt. And they want to win, too!
I think a good pool player can win with a basically straight broom stick. That said when I'm home I switch around on almost every inning, I don't see a change. I do prefer a light composite graphite cue to break. The rest doesn't matter to me
Loren
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Sure they could, or play off the wall all the time, or use a Players or Cuetec... so why don't they??
these are great point of views. another thing i considered is that we are challenging ourselves in pool, so its a heavier mental burden to be unsuccessful. as in team sports where some of the pressure is aleviated by our cohorts. this is obviously why we create elaborate excuses for our failures.
john
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I think you should learn from others. What use the A+ or Pro Players? and why?
Ex. I´ve never seen a pro or a good player play with a fiberglass cue.
In other way an Ivory inlay won´t help you to make balls.
But a good balanced cue will help you game A LOT!.
Something happened to me a couples of months ago. I consinder myself an c+ or B- player. Once the house pro wanted to play me and he was offering the wild 8. He uses an old meucci with a tip around 11mm.
I said NO, I´ll play you even, but you have to shoot with a house cue. We did it, he lost. He is the same player, but he is not used to another cue.
You shoot with what you´re used to, and if you like to play pool, why don´t you get the best equipment you can get? Not fancyness, but performance. Just my 2 cents.
Ex. I´ve never seen a pro or a good player play with a fiberglass cue.
In other way an Ivory inlay won´t help you to make balls.
But a good balanced cue will help you game A LOT!.
Something happened to me a couples of months ago. I consinder myself an c+ or B- player. Once the house pro wanted to play me and he was offering the wild 8. He uses an old meucci with a tip around 11mm.
I said NO, I´ll play you even, but you have to shoot with a house cue. We did it, he lost. He is the same player, but he is not used to another cue.
You shoot with what you´re used to, and if you like to play pool, why don´t you get the best equipment you can get? Not fancyness, but performance. Just my 2 cents.
When I see guys talk with a straight face about the importance of this tip, that shaft, this chalk, etc, I can't help but think they're deluding themselves and making excuses.
"man, I woulda gotten shape with my other shaft, but this one just doesn't spin the ball as much"
"I overdrew that cuz this tip is too soft/hard"
"I'm used to an 18.5, this 19.5 oz is a lot more work to move the cue ball"
"You can hit that low with blue diamond chalk, but you can't with masters, that's why I miscued"
I've even heard guys talk about how the inlays in the cue affect the hit and it could conceivably affect how you play.
I believe most people cannot pass a pepsi challenge where you have two different tips on the same cue, and they try to identify the difference between a medium and a hard by feel. I also wonder how many can tell the difference between an OB2 and a Z2 if the ferrules were both white.
My rule of thumb is... if they try to claim a certain piece of equipment made them miss the shot, do I feel like laughing in their face?
"I missed because of the inlays"... HAHAHHAHAHHAHAHA
"man, I woulda gotten shape with my other shaft, but this one just doesn't spin the ball as much"
"I overdrew that cuz this tip is too soft/hard"
"I'm used to an 18.5, this 19.5 oz is a lot more work to move the cue ball"
"You can hit that low with blue diamond chalk, but you can't with masters, that's why I miscued"
I've even heard guys talk about how the inlays in the cue affect the hit and it could conceivably affect how you play.
I believe most people cannot pass a pepsi challenge where you have two different tips on the same cue, and they try to identify the difference between a medium and a hard by feel. I also wonder how many can tell the difference between an OB2 and a Z2 if the ferrules were both white.
My rule of thumb is... if they try to claim a certain piece of equipment made them miss the shot, do I feel like laughing in their face?
"I missed because of the inlays"... HAHAHHAHAHHAHAHA
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