Pool "Secrets" Found on AZ

[dr_dave]

The saying "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery" is copyrighted.
What the hell is wrong with you?

:smile:

Haven't you ever heard of the Copyright "Fair Use" policy? It basically says I can do what ever I want because I am a teacher. :grin-square:

Catch you later,
Dave

PS: BTW, If anybody truly cares about the source of that great quote, it is from Charles Caleb Colton.

 

[arnaldo]

Although, there might be other possible explanations for why some people might shoot thin cuts more accurately with draw vs. follow. A lack of CB bounce could be one.

Regards,
Dave

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A huge and actually self-evident reason is that when aiming with the shaft well below the center of the CB, the edge of the CB and the edge of OB are being perceived with maximal acuity because the shaft isn't in any way impeding the clearest view of those radii's edge relationships.

Similar to the much-discussed (but properly controversial) practice of more than a few top pros aiming *every* shot with the cue tip far below center no matter what impact point of the tip upon the CB during the delivery stroke has been planned.

Dick

 

[dr_dave]

Additional proof that throw is less with both topspin and bottom-spin shots (but the same with the same amount of top or bottom spin) can be found here:

throw draw and follow effects resource page

Although, there might be other possible explanations for why some people might shoot thin cuts more accurately with draw vs. follow. A lack of CB bounce could be one.

A huge and actually self-evident reason is that when aiming with the shaft well below the center of the CB, the edge of the CB and the edge of OB are being perceived with maximal acuity because the shaft isn't in any way impeding the clearest view of those radii's edge relationships.

Similar to the much-discussed (but properly controversial) practice of more than a few top pros aiming *every* shot with the cue tip far below center no matter what impact point of the tip upon the CB during the delivery stroke has been planned.

Agreed. A low tip does make it much easier to align the cue with the vertical centerline of the CB. This can help reduce unintentional english, which can lead to inaccuracy due to squirt and swerve.

Regards,
Dave

 

[pt109]

Agreed. A low tip does make it much easier to align the cue with the vertical centerline of the CB. This can help reduce unintentional english, which can lead to inaccuracy due to squirt and swerve.

Regards,
Dave

Willie Hoppe advised to aim your tip where you're going to strike the cue-ball.
Personally, I prefer that advice.
When I see a player waving the cue around, you just know they won't
fare well on a snooker table. To me, it seems they are ignoring the Sailor's advice....
..."No nonchalanting at the pool table."

 

[naji]

Willie Hoppe advised to aim your tip where you're going to strike the cue-ball.
Personally, I prefer that advice.
When I see a player waving the cue around, you just know they won't
fare well on a snooker table. To me, it seems they are ignoring the Sailor's advice....
..."No nonchalanting at the pool table."

Actually aiming low at CB is essential for those that have stroke like SVB, not for aim or alignment, but for ensuring or forcing him (so not to forget) to drop the butt hand so the tip is raised during back swing so his stroke go back straight, he always addresses the CB lower than he needs, then raise the tip, is this piston stroke! so if he to use top english, he would address cb at center!

 

[pt109]

Actually aiming low at CB is essential for those that have stroke like SVB, not for aim or alignment, but for ensuring or forcing him (so not to forget) to drop the butt hand so the tip is raised during back swing so his stroke go back straight, he always addresses the CB lower than he needs, then raise the tip, is this piston stroke! so if he to use top english, he would address cb at center!

I could watch Shane play all day...also Busty.
But they have idiosyncrasies I would advise not to copy.
The simplicity of the stroke of Buddy Hall or the Lion makes sense.

...Occam's Razor....

 

[CJ Wiley]

I simply said they weren't true,....they do "sound good," just not true

I didn't say "they don't all apply to all people in all situations" - I simply said they aren't true,

It's just a partial list of examples of common pool sayings. I agree with you that they don't all apply to all people and in all situations.

Regards,
Dave

"It's ironic that many of these quotes aren't true when playing serious pool". - CJ Wiley

 

[dr_dave]

"It's not the cue. It's you,"
"Don't use more power than you can control."
"Draw for show, follow for dough."
"There's nothing worse than good position if you miss the shot."
"Don't try to get perfect shape when good shape will do."
"Playing a tough shot is better than playing a tough safety."
"If you can't find the one being hustled in the pool room, it's you."
"There's always a shot ... you just have to find it."
"Don't try to run out unless you can."
"Think long, think wrong."
"Stroke it, don't poke it."
"Let your cue do the work."
etc.!

It's ironic that many of these quotes aren't true when playing serious pool.

It's just a partial list of examples of common pool sayings. I agree with you that they don't all apply to all people and in all situations.

I didn't say "they don't all apply to all people in all situations" - I simply said they aren't true,

That is a powerful statement ... that they are not true. It seems like you mean this as a blanket statement for all people and all situations. Is that the case?

BTW, from previous posts from you in this and other threads, it seems like you were implying the following is good advice for all people:

"A touch of inside is better than attempting a center-ball hit for long, straight shots."
and
"A touch of inside is better than attempting a center-ball hit for thin cuts."

Do you really think these statements apply to all people, or did I misinterpret what you wrote?

Thanks,
Dave

 

[CJ Wiley]

It's ironic that many of these quotes aren't true when playing serous pool

I don't use TOI on straight in shots, this would throw the object ball out of the pocket, so that's not a quote from me.

TOI is best for me to cut balls unless I need to change the angle off the rail for position or avoid a scratch/another ball, etc. (that isn't natural with TOI)

As far as using universal statements like "all" and "never," notice my quote again, and notice I said "many".....there's exceptions to many situations in pool, and they exist in the quotes that you posted.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by dr_dave View Post
"It's not the cue. It's you,"
"Don't use more power than you can control."
"Draw for show, follow for dough."
"There's nothing worse than good position if you miss the shot."
"Don't try to get perfect shape when good shape will do."
"Playing a tough shot is better than playing a tough safety."
"If you can't find the one being hustled in the pool room, it's you."
"There's always a shot ... you just have to find it."
"Don't try to run out unless you can."
"Think long, think wrong."
"Stroke it, don't poke it."
"Let your cue do the work."
etc.!

Regards,
Dave

It's ironic that many of these quotes aren't true when playing serious pool. - CJ Wiley

That is a powerful statement ... that they are not true. It seems like you mean this as a blanket statement for all people and all situations. Is that the case?

BTW, from previous posts from you in this and other threads, it seems like you were implying the following is good advice for all people:

"A touch of inside is better than attempting a center-ball hit for long, straight shots."
and
"A touch of inside is better than attempting a center-ball hit for thin cuts."

Do you really think these statements apply to all people, or did I misinterpret what you wrote?

Thanks,
Dave