Pool's Greatest Sin:**Quiting Winner**

crawfish said:
What poolrooms do you guys frequent so I can give my slot machine a whirl if I am in your town? I'll watch out for you though. You can quit at any time.
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6-2

That's fine but I am the kind of slot machine that makes you post a couple hundred when you play me. So you might beat me out of what you post and quit and that's fine. However, just like the Casino, your business won't be welcome by me any more.

Now if you insist on playing by a "rule" that we can quit any time I'll do that to - when you are up 6-2 in a race to 7, I will quit.

Oh wait you meant that we can quit "after" the sets are over? Sorry man, there's no rules in gambling - you should have stipulated that BEFORE we play. And gotten it in writing.

:-)
 
Blackjack said:
I have heard people pi$$, moan, and complain about losing no matter what happens. Most people that complain about this are the actual nits because they never had a chance in hell to win in the first place. This is the oldest trick in the book that "losers' will use to knock anybody's action, and most of the time it has nothing to do with a "serious" game, and you know that too, John. I've heard people use this as an excuse to "never play that guy again". Sounds like a lack of testiclar fortitude to me (instead of nittiness).

The problem these days is that there are to many people pissing and moaning about everything when they come out on the losing end in any situation. For me, I could care less. If I get my ass handed to me, I will take it like a man. I won't cry and whine and point to unwritten rules or ettiquette in reponse to losing to somebody I couldn't beat at the table- no matter if the guy left or why he left or when he left. Only nits do that. You can point fingers and call people nits, but in my case, if the shoe was on the other foot - I would pay the man, shake his hand and keep my mouth shut and try to get him next time.

From what I remember, crying about $hit like this would kill your action faster than anything - at least that was how it was in my neighborhood. If you started crying or pointing fingers, people would tell you to STFU then walk away from you. BTW ... just so you know, I'd always post up - that's also an easy way to identify the true nits and it will save you from a lot of heartaches in the end.
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I am not saying that the person who was quit on has the right to go-off on the person quitting. They don't. I have done it and made a complete ass of myself. But I do reserve the right to ***** about their actions. And believe ME pool players KNOW when someone is BAD ACTION and do their best to AVOID them or to make them post KNOWING beforehand that they only have a shot at ONE set.

So when someone gets a rep for being a hit and run artist then they don't usually get much action with the gamblers.

I have often told people that their action is dead to me. I have given away money right in front of them by playing someone better than me with NO SPOT just to show some heart and try and outrun the nuts.

Anyone who knows me can testify that when I am in the pool room I always get something started and I am not shy about voicing my opinion.

I am famous for being a go-off. And I will - if I like the game then I am all in. But I WILL not ever give anyone another shot at even $1 of my money of they ever quit me winner or pull up after I win one set.

That's the kind of nit that doesn't get action from me and I don't care who thinks it's not a rule. It's my rule and one I follow. Be a nit around me and you can kiss your chances at getting in my pocket goodbye. And I consider a nit to be anyone who quits winner in a nitty manner. I think that all of us who gamble on pool frequently know what that is.
 
sixpack said:
When I was in college, I gambled quite a bit...then when I got a job and had to leave at a decent hour, it put me in a no-win situation...if I was up, then I had to let the guy get even or have an argument. If I was down, then I quit loser, either way I lost. So I stopped gambling as much. Then it was pretty much limited to weekends.

I think many people who would gamble otherwise don't gamble because of this unwritten rule. If I could play a set or two and know that, win or lose, I could quit in a few hours, I would do it a lot more. It puts people without jobs at a distinct advantage over people with jobs. Those of us with jobs/families have enough going against us when we gamble with degenerates (:) ) without having this rule make us certain losers or certain to end up in an argument.

Now I typically gamble small stakes and clarify that I have to go or whatever, although the last time I gambled I had a very good player down quite a bit and let him get back to even because I didn't want to quit winner on him...why not just give him my half of the table time and not even waste the time playing if you're going to do that?

Cheers,
RC
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No one is saying that you can't go home when you have to. Just give advance notice! In a case like yours, you obviously know from the outset than you have a cut-off point, so it would seem only fair to let your opponent know at the beginning of the session. No reasonable person, IMHO, would have any complaint about that. This thing about just quitting up without notice, however, is nittish beyond belief! The only way I'll play a person who does that is if I know I'm stealing anyway. After all, as the old people say here, "A t'ief from a t'ief makes God laugh."
 
That's what I meant

John Barton said:
6-2

That's fine but I am the kind of slot machine that makes you post a couple hundred when you play me. So you might beat me out of what you post and quit and that's fine. However, just like the Casino, your business won't be welcome by me any more.

Now if you insist on playing by a "rule" that we can quit any time I'll do that to - when you are up 6-2 in a race to 7, I will quit.

Oh wait you meant that we can quit "after" the sets are over? Sorry man, there's no rules in gambling - you should have stipulated that BEFORE we play. And gotten it in writing.

:-)
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I was trying to make that point to the fellow who told me he was gambling was like a slot machine.
 
A nickle and dimers's point of view ...

crawfish said:
Today's gambling and "gamblers" are far different than in the past. You just didn't quit after a couple of games. These people that say they are accustomed to just all of a sudden not liking the game they are in and quitting aren't playing "real" action. These are nickel and dimers.
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I used to look forward to spending time at the local pool room drinking a few beers and playing some two or three dollar pool with someone about my skill level.
Now I find I hardly ever play a 'friendly game' for money anymore.
If you get into a game and find you are out matched and have no hope of winning eve one out of four you are expected to hang in there and lose everything you have or you have no heart.
If you happen to shit out and win you find the 'real' player is playing with empty pockets cause he got busted the night before by another 'real' player (but he has a lot of heart).
It just aint worth the argravation to play for money anymore.

I will play for a beer a game but the 'real' players around here dont drink anything but water.
The day I feel that I should be ashamed will be my last day of playing pool.
 
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Nothing is more fun.

WilleeCue said:
I used to look forward to spending time at the local pool room drinking a few beers and playing some two or three dollar pool with someone about my skill level.
Now I find I hardly ever play a 'friendly game' for money anymore.
If you get into a game and find you are out matched and have no hope of winning eve one out of four you are expected to hang in there and lose everything you have or you have no heart.
If you happen to shit out and win you find the 'real' player is playing with empty pockets cause he got busted the night before by another 'real' player (but he has a lot of heart).
It just aint worth the argravation to play for money anymore.

I will play for a beer a game but the 'real' players around here dont drink anything but water.
The day I feel that I should be ashamed will be my last day of playing pool.
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Nothing beats playing for two bucks a game with a player very close to the same caliber as yourself. My point in the phrase above is the guy who asks you to play "some" and then, without any notice or reason, just quits after he wins the first four or five games in a row. It's very frustrating. If I ask someone to play "some," even if it's for a dollar, I am going to play thirty minutes or more. Think about what I mentioned earlier. And this actually happened. I guy is just harrassing the heck out of me, at a pro event, to give him the seven. I agree to give it to him and play some for twenty a game. He played perfect the first four games and was up eighty. He turns to me and says, "I quit, I told you that you couldn't beat me with the seven." I didn't even have a chance to get rollin'. Not only did he not give me a chance to get rollin', but then tells me how I couldn't win at that game. Then proceeds to get loud how he took me off to everyone there. Hey, in a way, he did. I was expecting a chance to play for a while, at least more than four games, where I kicked twice. (Two money balls on the break, by the way) I'm with you. I truly don't need the money to live on. It's just frustrating.
 
crawfish said:
And this actually happened. I guy is just harrassing the heck out of me, at a pro event, to give him the seven. I agree to give it to him and play some for twenty a game. He played perfect the first four games and was up eighty. He turns to me and says, "I quit, I told you that you couldn't beat me with the seven." I didn't even have a chance to get rollin'. Not only did he not give me a chance to get rollin', but then tells me how I couldn't win at that game. Then proceeds to get loud how he took me off to everyone there. Hey, in a way, he did. I was expecting a chance to play for a while, at least more than four games, where I kicked twice. (Two money balls on the break, by the way) I'm with you. I truly don't need the money to live on. It's just frustrating.
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This guy deserves a beating in a dark alley....this is the same idiot, where if the tables were turned, you got the break, and had put four games on him, would put up a fit if you quit up.....low moral character, granted that seems to be the norm for today's society...

Look at it this way - at least it only cost you $80 to figure out he's completely worthless and not to gamble with him, loan him money, or even pee on him if he was on fire :D
 
Blackjack said:
I have heard people pi$$, moan, and complain about losing no matter what happens. Most people that complain about this are the actual nits because they never had a chance in hell to win in the first place. This is the oldest trick in the book that "losers' will use to knock anybody's action, and most of the time it has nothing to do with a "serious" game, and you know that too, John. I've heard people use this as an excuse to "never play that guy again". Sounds like a lack of testiclar fortitude to me (instead of nittiness).

The problem these days is that there are to many people pissing and moaning about everything when they come out on the losing end in any situation. For me, I could care less. If I get my ass handed to me, I will take it like a man. I won't cry and whine and point to unwritten rules or ettiquette in reponse to losing to somebody I couldn't beat at the table- no matter if the guy left or why he left or when he left. Only nits do that. You can point fingers and call people nits, but in my case, if the shoe was on the other foot - I would pay the man, shake his hand and keep my mouth shut and try to get him next time.

From what I remember, crying about $hit like this would kill your action faster than anything - at least that was how it was in my neighborhood. If you started crying or pointing fingers, people would tell you to STFU then walk away from you. BTW ... just so you know, I'd always post up - that's also an easy way to identify the true nits and it will save you from a lot of heartaches in the end.
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Bingo!
Chuck
 
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