Practicing via Feel Only
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IMHO think to your average , and apply a 0.75 ratio. 1.00 on a 9' being more like 0.750 on a 10'
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Not challenging your math, but how is that# derived?
Arent kisses be harder to avoid on a smaller table?
that's +/- the traditional ratio used in France for an equivalence beetween small (9 feet) & big tables (10feet) averages. in some tournaments you can play some matches on small and other on big tables. 0.60 on a 9 feet means around 0.450 on big tables...
more kisses on small tables (2m80) , that's right. but less opposite hand positions, more open positions, and the smaller the table the easier to score it is, whatever the carom game you're playing. See straight rail : much, much easier on small tables than on big tables. same goes for balkline, 1 cushion, 3 cushions, 5 pins ....
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Thank you for elaborating.
100%.
On the smaller table contacting the 2nd ball accurately is much easier, making 6, 7 cushion shots more makeable with less distance to travel!
The 'Kisses' issue is reasonable to manage by contacting 2nd ball better.
Runs of 7 and 8 are more common on 9' tables!
Bill
Bill ... tell them ... How the Old School ... did it!!!
An interesting question arises: how small can you make a 3-cushion table to maximize your average, before the kiss dangers start to counterfeit the advantages of the smaller size? We're used to 1.42 x 2.84, the regular UMB matchtables (I think commonly called "ten foot" in the US). Let's call that 100, as a percentage of your average. A nine foot table should count roughly as a 120. The common Dutch 2.30 x 1.15 tables (we know this from experience and lots of data) wll give you roughly 160 % of your regular average, so that's a 160. In Belgium, the 2.10 x 1.05 tables are common, and players like Caudron and Merckx have played on those in small-table leagues for years. It was not uncommon for them to make 100 in 17, 15 or even 13, scores like that. So the 2.10 tables are at least a 200. How much smaller could you get, and still see the averages go up? I think (without having proof at the ready) that 2.10 x 1.05 is close to the edge already.
There's a possibility that at some smaller size, some kind of repeated pattern becomes practical.
120% is fine. I'll be at this for years and years before I get community approval to move to a 10 foot. There is way to much to learn.
Like a spirograph?!!
Or do you mean control of the balls/ position play becomes so easy it becomes Corey deuel soft break stuff?
I guess I could see the latter being a strong possibility for a top level player.
Yes, some kind of repeated series of shots like you see at balkline -- two preps and a drive, but of course more complicated. I heard a story of Raymond Ceulemans playing roughly the same natural to the corner multiple times in a row but I didn't see it. You need to have a way to get the balls back to the correct positions if they wander a little. Having a few different shots to restore the position might be needed.
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Agreed. Still wanna see the shots overlaid in a rectangular sprograph thing. Maybe even in poster form. Ha
I had a 4 the other day with the same shot each time. Last one was perhaps a stretch to not vary it, but it is funsies and in the spirit of deuel...sometimes you just gotta see.
If you could master short rail doubling the rail banks on a small table, then you could keep both balls in the corner for a few “small” points, and then three rail bank or three rail with a thin cut to reposition the balls. I’ve seen this pattern a few times in the 9 foot table but way hard to control. Maybe it is possible on tiny tables.