Pre-Flag Master Chalk Trade Interest??
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I hope this is the correct forum. My question is this, what is the big deal with "PRE FLAG?" MASTER CHALK??Any info. would be appreciated.
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Dave
It's the same as the current master chalk, except they used to soak it in milk and microwave it I think. Gives it magical properties or something...
Just kidding, I have no idea what all the rage about it is...
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it is the secrect formula before they changed the label and F'd everything up. I have yet to try this pre flag masters that I can remember. I do believe that Masters blue and green are different. I like green better unless you can find the rare african spider monkey pro chalk for $15 dollars a cube. That stuff is the nuts
it is the secrect formula before they changed the label and F'd everything up. I have yet to try this pre flag masters that I can remember. I do believe that Masters blue and green are different. I like green better unless you can find the rare african spider monkey pro chalk for $15 dollars a cube. That stuff is the nuts
They're using less lead now. "Pre-flag" chalk is softer, darker, adheres to your tip better than the current stuff. You simply had to chalk less than you do now. HOWEVER, we're probably all healthier for it.
I have one cube of pre flag that came in a holder with a cue that I bought from EBay. I made an alarmed glass display case for it. Its for sale for $500, case not included.
it is the secrect formula before they changed the label and F'd everything up. I have yet to try this pre flag masters that I can remember. I do believe that Masters blue and green are different. I like green better unless you can find the rare african spider monkey pro chalk for $15 dollars a cube. That stuff is the nuts
I have some green Master's chalk and I hate it. It doesn't adhere well at all to my tip...this is the light green Master's. I think they also have a dark green (I think it's called Spruce) but I haven't tried that one.
I hope this is the correct forum. My question is this, what is the big deal with "PRE FLAG?" MASTER CHALK??
Regards
Dave
I have some Pre-Flag Masters blue chalk. It goes on the tip much smoother and has better coverage.
Not sure what was changed, but it different!!
Russ.....
Thought you were the only one huh......
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I hope this is the correct forum. My question is this, what is the big deal with "PRE FLAG?" MASTER CHALK??
Regards
Dave
I have been using pre flag Masters for a long time.
Here are my opinions.
Pre flag green = did not like it at all. Seemed to miscue more than post and pre flag blue
Pre flag blue = I purchased a case in 1999 and have used over half the chalk. Some pieces seem "wet" and don't adhere well. Some pieces are great and chalk like they should. Not sure if this a basement humidity issue, age or what have you, but these are my observations.
Post flag blue = I like the way it applies to my tip. A bit messier, but seems to apply better than pre flag. I would rather use post flag than pre flag. I don't like to use post flag at home because it seems to mess up my table very quickly.
it is the secrect formula before they changed the label and F'd everything up. I have yet to try this pre flag masters that I can remember. I do believe that Masters blue and green are different. I like green better unless you can find the rare african spider monkey pro chalk for $15 dollars a cube. That stuff is the nuts
A friend of mine got a tour of the plant where they make Masters chalk and asked this same question. He was told that "Yes" there was a huge difference.
In the blue chalk they use BLUE dye, and in the green chalk, they use GREEN dye.
I was amazed at their brazen actions on how they manipulate the chalk like this....
I really believe, or imagine (placebo effect) that the older Masters chalk sticks to the tip much better. Lately I have tried some new Masters chalk, pink and green. The green really was no good at all, the pink seemed like any other chalk.
I have a few old Blue Masters chalk and it sticks to the tip great.
There were some spots on the tip that the new green chalk wouldn't stick to, which usually means I need to roughen up the tip some. Instead of roughing the tip up, I put on the old blue and it stuck on the tip just fine.
I also used Blue Diamond chalk and it sticks to the tip like crazy.
I remember playing in the early eighties and I liked Master Chalk and the blue National Tournament Chalk (NTC). I just found out they still make that chalk, but probably not the same anymore. I just won some old NTC on eBay, and can't wait to get it and compare it.
Look at Johnny Archer on Youtube, "what's in the case". He talks about how he likes and will steal your old chalk if you leave it laying it around.
He had some flagged chalk too though.
I have a few old Blue Masters chalk and it sticks to the tip great.
There were some spots on the tip that the new green chalk wouldn't stick to, which usually means I need to roughen up the tip some. Instead of roughing the tip up, I put on the old blue and it stuck on the tip just fine.
I also used Blue Diamond chalk and it sticks to the tip like crazy.
I remember playing in the early eighties and I liked Master Chalk and the blue National Tournament Chalk (NTC). I just found out they still make that chalk, but probably not the same anymore. I just won some old NTC on eBay, and can't wait to get it and compare it.
Look at Johnny Archer on Youtube, "what's in the case". He talks about how he likes and will steal your old chalk if you leave it laying it around.
He had some flagged chalk too though.
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I watched a few more "what's in the case" videos on Youtube.
- Allison Fisher has all old Masters chalk in her case.
- Marcus Chamat... ouch.. he had some new Masters chalk in his case and he said he didn't know why he had it in the case, he said he didn't like it and said anything is better than Masters now. Did I say Ouch??
-Oscar Dominguez, he has Blue Diamond chalk in his case, he says it's expensive but worth it.
Tyler Edey- He uses Blue Diamond chalk, but.. he is sponsored by Longoni.
Eric Fatboy Peterson- Has Old Masters chalk in his case.
Efren Reyes- I couldn't understand what he said, looked like old Masters Chalk, but sounded like he said Cosmo chalk, and he said he also likes Masters red chalk.
Marc Vidal- didn't have chalk in his case, but he had a condom.. haha
- Allison Fisher has all old Masters chalk in her case.
- Marcus Chamat... ouch.. he had some new Masters chalk in his case and he said he didn't know why he had it in the case, he said he didn't like it and said anything is better than Masters now. Did I say Ouch??
-Oscar Dominguez, he has Blue Diamond chalk in his case, he says it's expensive but worth it.
Tyler Edey- He uses Blue Diamond chalk, but.. he is sponsored by Longoni.
Eric Fatboy Peterson- Has Old Masters chalk in his case.
Efren Reyes- I couldn't understand what he said, looked like old Masters Chalk, but sounded like he said Cosmo chalk, and he said he also likes Masters red chalk.
Marc Vidal- didn't have chalk in his case, but he had a condom.. haha
actually not all pre-flag masters chalk was made before they took the lead out. it was a short time after they changed the formula that they started using the flag on the label.
so you may have pre-flag chalk, but it's possible it's the "new" stuff.
do a search here, there was a very long thread about the stuff awhile back
fatboy, you like the chalk?
so you may have pre-flag chalk, but it's possible it's the "new" stuff.
do a search here, there was a very long thread about the stuff awhile back
fatboy, you like the chalk?
Any proof there was lead in the chalk? I'm guessing Tweeten doesn't want to say that they had lead in their chalk, so people can't sue them or something. I really do believe Blue Diamond is better, I don't think Tweeten would put lead in chalk made for Longoni.
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They took the lead and mercury out.
hmmm, the post you qouted was deleted. Anyways, I would think there is no lead in it. There is no way places like California or any other place would let something like that have lead in it and be sold.
I don't know, in China it might be OK:wink:
I think it would not even be allowed in Italy, which it were Longoni is, the company that markets Blue Diamond chalk, but is actually made by Tweeten.
Hmm... says ALL brands of blue chalk was OK, maybe the lead is part of it to make it green.
when did they first start putting the flag on it?