Pre Flag Master Chalk

I'm kind of tired hearing about this pre-flag masters. I've used it, went on the same way as regular masters, I seen no difference in playability what-so-ever. I know a guy who plays with Gray master's and swears up and down it's better than blue :banghead:
 
bdcues said:
What I do believe is that the pre flag spins the cue ball more.
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Sorry, this is 100% superstition. No offense.

What's the theory, it "sticks" more, and imparts more spin because it's grabbing the edge of the cue ball and shoving it a little more firmly than other chalk?

Hitting a tiny bit harder would also shove the edge of the cue ball a little more firmly. So how can you say for sure you didn't just hit the shot 1% harder than the last time?
 
poolhustler said:
Masters Pre Flag. Does anyone think that a manufacturer (Tweeten) would admit that their product had hazardous components in it and open themselves up to lawsuits???
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Ok, that's one conspiracy theory.
Tell me how this makes sense:

I realize my product has hazardous material. With no prompting from anyone, no problems, no injuries or deaths or lawsuits or court orders, I voluntarily change the formula.

I want to keep this on the down low, very secret, so nobody tries to file lawsuits against me.

So I keep it secret by... changing the packaging so everyone notices something's different?!?!@

When it was 100% possible to change the formula while leaving the packaging alone? Duh?
 
CreeDo said:
Ok, that's one conspiracy theory.
Tell me how this makes sense:

I realize my product has hazardous material. With no prompting from anyone, no problems, no injuries or deaths or lawsuits or court orders, I voluntarily change the formula.

I want to keep this on the down low, very secret, so nobody tries to file lawsuits against me.

So I keep it secret by... changing the packaging so everyone notices something's different?!?!@

When it was 100% possible to change the formula while leaving the packaging alone? Duh?
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Changing the packaging would have had nothing to do with changing the formula or ingredients. Did I ever say the two were correlated??
 
bdcues said:
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Neither as I don't think the lead or lack of it contributes to whether you miss cue or not. What I do believe is that the pre flag spins the cue ball more. Not a lot but even if it is a half diamond across the table than it is worth it to me. As for being worried about the cancer causing attributes of lead...wash your hands and don't lick your fingers.
So while the formula may be the same... the ingredients are not since it is clearly stated that the lead is gone from the dye. Did the lead add a bit of friction?? Was taking the lead out the only thing done to the dye or was another ingredient added with different frictional properties??

Bob Danielson
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I'm not talking about the playability, that's completely subject. Are you saying that Tweeten changed their time honored formula in conjunction with the flag label???

That dog won't hunt.

In any event, it's all window dressing. I think Brunswick chalk is worth twice as much as Kamui.
 
I have bought and sold a S load of pre flag. Some is better than others. Its not all the same. The really old stuff is much better than the newer stuff.

As far as price, I was selling one gross boxes (144 pcs) for $125 - $150.
 
This story seems to have infinite life. From my reco0llection of the testing data from many years ago, the only Masters chalk found to contain small traces of lead was the green color chalk. The source of the lead was the yellow pigment which turns blue to green. At the time use of that pigment was legal.

The pigment was changed in the green chalk after later EPA regulations regulated and in some cases prohibited its use.

No Masters blue color chalk was ever found to contain lead, so another urban legend shot down for the 1000th(or more) time.
 
GADawg said:
This story seems to have infinite life. From my reco0llection of the testing data from many years ago, the only Masters chalk found to contain small traces of lead was the green color chalk. The source of the lead was the yellow pigment which turns blue to green. At the time use of that pigment was legal.

The pigment was changed in the green chalk after later EPA regulations regulated and in some cases prohibited its use.

No Masters blue color chalk was ever found to contain lead, so another urban legend shot down for the 1000th(or more) time.
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Yes.. .I agree!!!!

I still maintain that the main difference is that the older chalk has had time to dry out so it seems finer and goes on the tip differently, not as powdery.
 
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