Predator 314 ???

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So the predator shaft with just a cat on it was that shaft made in usa or is that china shaft? Are they good shafts? How do they play compared too say the ob classic? Deflect about the same one more then other? What about the feel of the hit? I've heard this shaft is the fav of all the predator shafts just looking for some info on it sorry if its been asked couldn't find anything other then 314-2 and z thanks all :thumbup::thumbup:
 
Busboy said:
So the predator shaft with just a cat on it was that shaft made in usa or is that china shaft? Are they good shafts? How do they play compared too say the ob classic? Deflect about the same one more then other? What about the feel of the hit? I've heard this shaft is the fav of all the predator shafts just looking for some info on it sorry if its been asked couldn't find anything other then 314-2 and z thanks all :thumbup::thumbup:
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I've only ever seen three versions of a Predator 314 shaft.

First shaft had "314" a.k.a. Pre-Cat
Second shaft had "314" and the cat below a.k.a. 314^1

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Third shaft has "314^2"

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Even further back than the 314 with and without the cat, the shafts had no logo and a long ferrule. A lot of people like the original 314s the best and even more so with the very first ones. I had a 96 model with the long ferrule and no logo on the shaft and it was a really nice hitting cue, wish I still had that one...
 

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Yeah, I just picked up a few of those very older pre-cats. both have the 1" ferrule. The
one with the 10 piece lamination has the 314 on wood by the collar. The other has a
12 piece lamination and has no logo at all on it. I hear that they also dabbled with a 6
piece lamination, and there are a few of those around too. I believe that with the 314-1
shafts ( 314 and cat logo ) were the first to be made overseas, but I'm not positive about
that. I also have a buddy that has a predator butt with just a 314 above the wrap. I was
wondering if anyone had any info. about those cues. If someone has some info. on those
butts, I'd like to hear it. I have another thread here in the main forums started about it.
 
I have a Cat, but the Cat Logo is upside down.

I bought it used, from Rossaroni, if I remember. So, a factory boo boo, a Partial that a maker did for someone and put the logo upside wrong, or something else. I don't know.

No fancy ring work on it so if it was a partial, it wasn't to match a custom cues rings.

And the fact that I have an upside down Cat doesn't even matter much. Just wanted to tell you guys.

What's the difference from the 314-1 and 314-2?
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Nothing. KJ Simpson, (KJ Cues) is a Pred repairman and does all of Seyberts work. He has been asked that question 100s of times and he gives the same answer every time.

I believe that I even PMed him once and that was the answer that I got.

And this is something that I don't know or can't remember. One or the other. Did Pred always have 10 laminations or did they originally have 8 and then 10. Or did they ever have 8 at all.
 
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Blue Hog ridr said:
I have a Cat, but the Cat Logo is upside down.

I bought it used, from Rossaroni, if I remember. So, a factory boo boo, a Partial that a maker did for someone and put the logo upside wrong, or something else. I don't know.

No fancy ring work on it so if it was a partial, it wasn't to match a custom cues rings.

And the fact that I have an upside down Cat doesn't even matter much. Just wanted to tell you guys.



Nothing. KJ Simpson, (KJ Cues) is a Pred repairman and does all of Seyberts work. He has been asked that question 100s of times and he gives the same answer every time.

I believe that I even PMed him once and that was the answer that I got.

And this is something that I don't know or can't remember. One or the other. Did Pred always have 10 laminations or did they originally have 8 and then 10. Or did they ever have 8 at all.
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Howdy,

Terry has got it almost right but not quite.
What I said was that there is no difference btwn the 'cat' and 'pre-cat' Gen1 shafts other than the decal.
I've listened to the argument since I've been on AZ and some people persist in perpetuating a myth.
There is no difference in the construction or anything else.
Predator changed decal design mid-run and that's all. Kinda like the 'flag/pre-flag thing.

Now the Gen2 is a different story.
While the wood and it's radial-pie construction remains the same, everything else about the shaft was changed.
Tip, ferrule, tenon design and the use of phenolic at the joint-end are basically what makes the Gen2 different.
Even then it's the same shaft just with different features.

PS. To the number of pie splices mentioned.
Predator started with a 1-pc shaft. From there they went to a 6, then 12 and settled on 10 where it's been ever since.
They never offered an 8 splice.

HTHs, KJ
 
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What's the difference from the 314-1 and 314-2?
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I think they are made the same way. The 314-2 has a different ferrule; one that does not stain and maybe it's even lighter for more low-deflection characteristics. I believe the taper is a little different between the two generations as well.

The 314-2 also has a phenolic joint and insert.
 
Thanks KJ, I knew you would see this one.

Well, I had the 2 words, "no difference" right. Just not the shafts that had no difference. Haha.
 
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