Predator's P3's vs Schon

[RailKing85]

Schon all the way between those two. Buy an older second hand one. I dont recommend buying anything predator brand.
Joss will feel play almost the same as a schon...if u get a regular 12.75 shaft or so. Joss's 13.25 is a fucking tree trunk..(makes a great break shaft with a sumo extra hard water buffalo leather tip or a sonic phenolic tip from mezz btw). If the shafts are same. Schon and joss play almost identical. Honestly I kinda like the joss better. Schon has better fit and finish.....I don't have my Joss anymore...but it played just fine. Seems like I always used a diveney lakewood shaft with it. Then I started using it as a breaker with the stock joss 13.23 shaft and a super hard tip

they probably play similar because they both have the heavy 5/16/14 steel joint. making it forward balanced. Idk about Joss and their butt diameters but I do prefer smaller butts. As I only grip with my index and thumb for the most part

 

[RailKing85]

The P3 was on my radar back when I first started shopping for a new player. As it was the only Predator with a hit I enjoyed. However, they are so brutally common. It would be more rare to drive a gray coloured car then own a P3. That aspect mixed with what is (imo) a horrible joint, turned me away. As far as a Revo shaft...?..., the worst of the CF I've demo'd,

I've never owned one but have had a soft spot for old schons. Very classic looking cues that generally don't feel like crap when you hit a ball. I've read here the current models play terribly, or just maybe not as well as they used to...? <--I honestly don't know from first person experience

As far as my unsolicited suggestion. Try swinging at a few with a Mezz before you buy something else.

The mezz have their stupid united joints and I want a cue I can upgrade shafts easily on. Also their selection is kinda shitty for styles and seyberts doesnt sell them. I only shop seyberts and pooldawg and FCIBilliards.

 

[RailKing85]

Then you appear to like rear heavy cues.
If that is the case, then Schon won't probably be for you, they're balanced a bit forward.

I dont think I like rear heavy per say, I think I just dont like the way viking did it. But who knows I may pick one up with a skinny butt and enjoy it. I do like there do be some weight in the shaft end.

 

[Poolhall60561]

Whats PS

Sorry, P3

 

[RDeca]

The mezz have their stupid united joints and I want a cue I can upgrade shafts easily on. Also their selection is kinda shitty for styles and seyberts doesnt sell them. I only shop seyberts and pooldawg and FCIBilliards.

The united joint mezz butt will fit any afetrmarket shaft in5/16x14. As long as it's not a goofy brass insert like schon uses. Cuetec...predator anything with the smaller brass insert will fit.

 

[Poolhall60561]

My salt and pepper P2 and P3

 

[RDeca]

Also a flat faced 5/16x14 works fine no worries then about the insert dimeter..
Most all major shaft makers offer a united joint option these days anyway. *Also mezz quality is very high....another brand is pretty much a downgrade...imo

 

[RailKing85]

My salt and pepper P2 and P3
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I want the grey one, but. I havent seen it stocked at seyberts. Trying to use my bucks lol.

 

[The_JV]

The mezz have their stupid united joints and I want a cue I can upgrade shafts easily on. Also their selection is kinda shitty for styles and seyberts doesnt sell them. I only shop seyberts and pooldawg and FCIBilliards.

lol... and the P3 unilock isn't a stupid joint...?

Your loss.

 

[BigBoof]

I have a P3 with a radial pin (and a grey car, whatever that means).

I enjoy the hit with it but it feels slim in my hand. It is possible that this model differs from a standard P3. My other cues are more old school dimensions so this is different.

Your money will go farther in the used market.


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[Michael Webb]

I have a P3 with a radial pin (and a grey car, whatever that means).

I enjoy the hit with it but it feels slim in my hand. It is possible that this model differs from a standard P3. My other cues are more old school dimensions so this is different.

Your money will go farther in the used market.


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Some Cue brands have become thinner over the years.
The theory is they produce English easier.
Don't shoot the messenger
Happy New Year

 

[RDeca]

Some Cue brands have become thinner over the years.
The theory is they produce English easier.
Don't shoot the messenger
Happy New Year

If u want stupid amounts of spin on the ball a 18 Oz cue with a triangle tip shaped and scuffed perfectly loaded with fresh triangle chalk then scuffed and chalked again ...on a 12.25mm shaft or so with a 20 inch plus pro taper. Then let her rip with some good loose wrist snap on cueball contact.
* I think maybe the thinner butt and slightly lighter cue facilitates more wrist action. (Not necessarily a good thing if your stoke is already somewhat sloppy)

 

[g0ds gReeN]

I have a P3 with a radial pin (and a grey car, whatever that means).

I enjoy the hit with it but it feels slim in my hand. It is possible that this model differs from a standard P3. My other cues are more old school dimensions so this is different.

Your money will go farther in the used market.


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Do you have a wood shaft or a Revo? I would echo your sentiment about it feeling slim, but that's only because I play a 11.8 Revo which I feel makes it a psychological thing.

Eventually I'll put a radial shaft on mine to try out.

 

[RailKing85]

lol... and the P3 unilock isn't a stupid joint...?

Your loss.

Sure it's not a big threaded joint but it fits tight and works. I've read and heard it'll loosen on some people rarely, somewhere 1/300 shots. Why do you think it's bad? I'm honestly curious.

 

[BigBoof]

Do you have a wood shaft or a Revo? I would echo your sentiment about it feeling slim, but that's only because I play a 11.8 Revo which I feel makes it a psychological thing.

Eventually I'll put a radial shaft on mine to try out.

I got this as a butt only. I use a 12.2 Ignite shaft most of the time. The color of this cue would be perfect for kielwood but I only have a 11.75 OB phoenix and we don’t get along.

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[406jwh]

I run a p3 bocote with 8 inch extension..but a 10.5 cynergy shaft. Haven't put it down since I first shot with it. Much prefer the cynergy shafts over the revo

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[The_JV]

Sure it's not a big threaded joint but it fits tight and works. I've read and heard it'll loosen on some people rarely, somewhere 1/300 shots. Why do you think it's bad? I'm honestly curious.

I'm not a fan of short threaded pins. No specific hate for the unilock. Just got a kick out of you calling the Mezz United a stupid joint when it's not much different than the Predator Unilock.

I will say. Having experienced both the predator unilock and the Mezz united pins. The Mezz offering has notably higher precision in fit. It may just be the one united I have been exposed to, (my breaker) but all the predator unilocks in comparison engage loosely.

YMMV

 

[The_JV]

I have a P3 with a radial pin (and a grey car, whatever that means).

It means the odds of seeing several P3's in a pool room are as good as seeing gray cars on the road. It's very common production cue. That's not necessarily a bad thing. However, some people just prefer to be somewhat unique when buying something new. When I entered the market. The option of having the same cue as a dozen or so others in my room turned me off the P3. That sounds fickle, I know. However, I wouldn't buy a gray car either....lol

 

[ak1975]

I have a P3 and love it, but cant compare to the others mentioned. oh and I like the color black so...

 

[RickLafayette]

Not a fan of the Uniloc, I'm happy to see that predator saw the light and started producing the P3 with a (Uniloc) radial pin.